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23-Mar-2009 22:21 Beyonics   /   Beyonics       Go to Message
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Director CHAY KWONG SOON  open market purchase:

21,700,000  shares

http://info.sgx.com/webcorannc.nsf/0357d11048060bb84825735f0028e25b/85d5a8353d436f33482575820026ce8f?OpenDocument



Sporeguy      ( Date: 23-Mar-2009 22:08) Posted:

Top 13 in terms of volume, seldom seen! why sudden increase in vol ?
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23-Mar-2009 21:32 Chartered   /   Chartered after Rights       Go to Message
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Chewbacca
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Posted: 23-Mar-2009 14:18       Contact Chewbacca          *  Quote this Post!
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Ah, I think I understand now.

Since I have 15 mothershares, I'm entitled to 40.5.

Also, since it's not a whole number, I'll have to buy or sell 0.5 of them?


 

 Hi Chewbacca, on your question of odd number of shares, please note that after the 27 for 10 Rights issue there is another 10 to 1 consolidation. As you have 15000 mother shares and 40500 Rights, you add up very odd number total 55500. After consolidation you get final number of 5550...

A few ways of squaring them to THOUSANDs:

1. is to BUY Rights equal to 4500 + n*(10000) where n=0,1,2,3... then your total shares would become 55500+4500+n(10000)=60000+n(10000)


2.  is to SELL Rights equal to 5500+m*(10000) where m=0,1,2,3..

both 1 and 2 need to pay trading fee. And you need to do this within the rights trading period, I think this ends on 31 March.


3.  yet another way, most  likely the preferred way, is to APPLY FOR EXCESS RIGHTS, quantity would be 4500+n*(10000). n=1,2,3... this would let you have total shares of 60000+n(10000). Hence after consolidation, your FINAL total quantity would be 6000+n(1000).


Note that company would give you priority on excess rights application to square off odd lots. However, there is no guaranteed of company would allocate the quantity of excess rights you applied for.

Hope this helps you when you want to round off your total FINAL shares.


 
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23-Mar-2009 15:24 Sino Techfibre   /   SinoTechfib       Go to Message
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x 0 		freeme, thanks for reply.. good luck, this one chiong a lot
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23-Mar-2009 15:11 Chartered   /   Chartered after Rights       Go to Message
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sorry CPF procedure more complicated, cannot see from CDP on-line ( which is CASH).

Contact your CPF agent bank for details



charlesteo      ( Date: 23-Mar-2009 14:58) Posted:



Hi

 Will I get to see it if I have mothershares in my CPF?

Thanks.
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23-Mar-2009 14:32 Chartered   /   Chartered after Rights       Go to Message
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you should see Chartered R in you CDP account , but not with your broker.

GO and apply CDP online account now so that you can view your statement via internet.


https://www1.cdp.com.sg/web33/scdcint/pinregistration/imain.do

 

you must be very sure you have share in CDP account before SELL, or else you are subjected to buy-in and fined.



Chewbacca      ( Date: 23-Mar-2009 14:18) Posted:



Ah, I think I understand now.

Since I have 15 mothershares, I'm entitled to 40.5.

I can either sell them @ 0.25 right now, or convert them for $70 per lot at a later date to mother shares.

Also, since it's not a while number, I'll have to buy or sell 0.5 of them?

But should the rights appear under my portfolio already? I mean, I'm using poems. Should I see 45000 Chartered R under my portfolio? Or is that invisible?
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23-Mar-2009 14:03 Chartered   /   Chartered after Rights       Go to Message
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If you were holding chartered before ex-rights, that means you are already entitled shareholder to chartered rights.. The mother share price already get adjusted to current market price.. So you as an entitled shareholder, you do not need to bother about buying nil-paid rights from the market. 

But you cannot throw away your Rights for subscibing to the 27 for 10 rights at rights exercising price of 7 cents... If you throw that away, you loss more.. What is the price of your nil-paid rights now?? the market said 2.5c now. it will change over this rights trading period..

I hope you understand that you have a few options:

1. See away your nil-paid rights.. Market determine the price..over only next few days

2. Exercise by paying 7 cents for your rights and convert to mother shares

 3. Do nothing: then give those 'money' away to other people who is more than happy to apply for excess-rights..



 




Chewbacca      ( Date: 23-Mar-2009 13:26) Posted:

So, even if I'm holding some chartered before the rights issue, I can opt not to buy anything, right? But is it a good idea to buy? Or doesn't matter?
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23-Mar-2009 12:47 Sino Techfibre   /   SinoTechfib       Go to Message
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hi freeme, dun mind let me know how u set 0.12 tp?

 thanks
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23-Mar-2009 12:22 CapitaLand   /   CapitaLand: Too early to bottom fish       Go to Message
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For those who end up with odd lot of 500 shares and you are not happy to hold odd lot, you might want to trade ( buy 500 more or sell off your 500). the counters are now listed as Capitaland 500 ( HI6)


  Capitaland 500 2.110--2712.090--2.1101.940PROP
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23-Mar-2009 11:03 Chartered   /   Chartered after Rights       Go to Message
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your calculation is correct.

however, the market decides.  Rights share price open at 2c even mother share is 11-11.5c.

for those who buy rights at 2c, if he pay 7c to convert to mother share, his cost is 9c plus come trade commission.



oinkoink1999      ( Date: 22-Mar-2009 01:19) Posted:

Hi all, for those who have vested, may I ask if the nil-paid rights will start trading on 23 Mar at 0.105 - 0.07 = 0.035 cents? Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks in advance for the advice. Cheers~!
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23-Mar-2009 09:55 Sino Techfibre   /   SinoTechfib       Go to Message
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x 0 		this one very strong leh
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23-Mar-2009 08:44 CapitaLand   /   CapitaLand: Too early to bottom fish       Go to Message
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the 'new mother shares' convert from the Rights shares have already been credited in CDP account.

you may just login to CDP to check , once you see your CDP have the shares you can sell
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21-Mar-2009 21:47 Others   /   DOW       Go to Message
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x 0 		hehe, i think DYODD = do your own due diligence
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21-Mar-2009 21:30 CapitaLand   /   CapitaLand: Too early to bottom fish       Go to Message
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capitaland share Ex-rights is on 19 Feb.

 You bought on 6 March , is EX-rights, or EXCLUDE Rights. Therefore you were not entitled for the Rights .

Thus your application was rejected by CDP and capitaland


 
Chua_01
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Posted: 21-Mar-2009 21:21       Contact Chua_01          *  Quote this Post!
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Hi, Bro. I have bought 1,000 share on 06 March 2009, am I entitle for the right 500 shares ?

I apply the right and excess right on 12 March 2009 for 500 share each . Just curous why rejected especially the right.

Your advise again is appreciated. Is good to know the reason behind. Thank


 
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21-Mar-2009 20:58 Chartered   /   Chartered after Rights       Go to Message
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TSMC, UMC, chartered are in same industry la..

United Microelectronics Corp. (UMC)



AK_Francis      ( Date: 21-Mar-2009 20:16) Posted:

Sorry, UMC what coy is that? Listed coy in US or Bursa? Would it be d same semicon coy UMS in local?

Chartered is d world 3rd largest make-to-order chipmaker. Not sure now? Yes, there are many rept on ds burger in d Edge, Spore.



rabbitfoot      ( Date: 21-Mar-2009 18:22) Posted:

In the Edge publication, CEO said that Chartered is now No. 2 in technology, overtaking UMC already. Prepare for strong rebound after rights...
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21-Mar-2009 20:55 CapitaLand   /   CapitaLand: Too early to bottom fish       Go to Message
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Chua_01.

1. Are you 'entitled shareholder'? if yes, you CDP statement will show with Capitaland_R.

2. if you are NOT entitled shareholder before company share traded Ex-rights, then, do you buy rights during the rights trading period?

 
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13-Mar-2009 13:18 Others   /   All china shares listed in SGX are dead       Go to Message
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they do not meet stock exchange criteria or .. traded over the counter (OTC) or as pink-sheet.

read following for knowledge :

http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/201.asp

 does that sound better than to suspense for trading? but at that price, the commisions is much higher than the share price unless buy in several 10 to 100 of million shares on one trade.
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13-Mar-2009 12:51 Others   /   All china shares listed in SGX are dead       Go to Message
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DO YOU HEAR ANY STOCK 0.005CTS IN ANY WORLD MARKET?

go to this Dr Penny Stock website for some reading.

http://www.drpennystock.com/2009/03/

 
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13-Mar-2009 12:31 CapitaLand   /   CapitaLand: Too early to bottom fish       Go to Message
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Expected issuance of new rights share: 20 mar, Friday.

Expected trading of new rights share : 23 Mar Monday

 as such you can check you CDP statement on 20 mar for new shares converted from exercising of rights.

the CDP still has the Capitaland_R, however this has been delisted in sgx (remark is DL)so you cannot do anything , just wait for it to be converted to mother shares

  Capitaland RDL----------PROP
  Capitaland R500DL----------PROP


dunkie      ( Date: 13-Mar-2009 12:11) Posted:



hello Uncle AK and other sifus, may i check with you now that 12 March is over, when will Capitaland R shares all be converted to mother shares, assuming that we've all paid up proper?

my CDP still split into Capitaland and Capitaland R leh...

thanks!
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11-Mar-2009 19:25 DBS   /   DBS       Go to Message
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02-Mar-2009 09:14 Others   /   Pants down       Go to Message
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x 0 		I dun think fund manager is FEAR type. Afterall, they play with other people maney and their fund charge are still a percentage irregardless of the market up or down. Like taking commision. 

knightbridge      ( Date: 02-Mar-2009 00:40) Posted:



I smell fear in investors and fund manager with the over whelming of bad news from newspapers and media..

It is only when future look bleak one can then pick up distress assets at rock bottom.. Only the brave who is smart will end up as winner..

There is a chinese saying chaotic times create hero....
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