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31-May-2009 20:47

ST Engineering / ST Engg

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Thanks. Emm in actual i am a long term player for this counter. Smiley

wongmx6 ( Date: 31-May-2009 19:56) Posted:

No doubt this is a good company, if you want to long it for few years, Reward is probable.

Look at the poor outlook of Aviation Industries. I guess patient is needed.

I myself also like this company, i wish to buy some to keep when the price and feeling is right.

Wish you good luck, Trust yourself and your judgement.

dealer0168 ( Date: 31-May-2009 11:25) Posted:

Emm, how u explain why investor still want to up his percentage level to 5%. Something must be up, n that trigger it.

No investor will want to vest in a ship with sinking share price. Maybe let wait n see if there is any GOOD news coming

out soon. Cheers. Smiley

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31-May-2009 17:18

CapitaCom Trust / CapitComm RIGHT Discussion Corner

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Quite a few companies have raised cash during this time using for various means. But think of it in another way. What companies are doing through by raising cash through RIGHTs might not neccesarily be a bad thing for the future. By raising cash, their net borrowing decreases. And if they make good use of the money obtained from RIGHTS to further expand their business, actually this dilution may not be a concern.

Company perform, profit will be more, & we investor will get more. I strongly believe CCT will make good use of the money fr RIGHTS. Smiley

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31-May-2009 16:53

Oceanus / RTO of Oceanus Bio-Tech

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Up too fast. I thk for the time being will be within the range of 0.29 to 0.33.

Takes time to progress to its fair value.

To rally again, unless got news like divi or...etc

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31-May-2009 16:31

Pacific Andes / Discussion Corner for PACIFIC ANDES RIGHT

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Oh i overlook, actually the article by analyst Carmen Lee already indicate there is dividend for this baby. Smiley

Sentence quote fr article i listed below:

Summary: Pacific Andes Holdings (PAH) posted better than expected net earnings of HK$664m for FY09, up 38% YoY. The group has also declared dividend per share of 2.07 S cents per share (same as last year), giving an attractive yield of 6.8% based on pre-suspension price of S$0.305.

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31-May-2009 15:39

Others / Father retirement $$ invest in FD or shares?

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Emm for yr NSL case, another option will be buy some more n average yr way out loh. That is a option to get out. Smiley

For me, normally i will allocated a certain amount of money for my investment leaving the rest for rainy days.

I don't go all for share. I also go for Land banking (with Walton International Group) & etc investment.....

Need to diversify loh....

Theresa ( Date: 31-May-2009 12:49) Posted:

yeh, during that time when I buy this counter, although the price is high, surprisingly, the dividends payout is very gd too. Due to this recession now, all prices has drop so much, this is the time to find out some of the counters which can give gd dividends and keep them for high dividends payout. SMRT is also one of them.

I agreed, stock investment do not make money all the time, but dun forget it is abt probaility and not guarantee. You need to invest yr time and money to study stock investment. If you want to make money, yet you do not want to invest time and money to study it, then you can only purchase mutual funds manage by the fund managers or Insitutions which I think nowadays people are very much careful on who they approach their money to? Am I right?

How can you hv extra hard cash if you only save the hard cash? Dun forget the inflation rates is eating into our money. The interest which the Bank is giving is miserable. Hard cash will not roll after 1 year later.

dealer0168 ( Date: 31-May-2009 11:14) Posted:

For 6 years, emm that mean yr share value has drop as well due to recession. Does the 6 yrs divi cover back the lost.

Emm i'm pointing this out to just highlight that Stock investment may not make money everytime.

Need to diversify investment. N Save some hard cash for rainy days as well.

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31-May-2009 11:44

CapitaCom Trust / CapitComm RIGHT Discussion Corner

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So does that mean, those RIGHT share can only be entitled divi next yr. But for the current CCT share that i currently hold, i still able to get the Divi this year July09 ....correct?.......

Can help elaborate on it? Thks. Smiley

jeremyow ( Date: 31-May-2009 00:59) Posted:

Yes, there is going to be dividend / distribution for this year. However, the amount of dividend/ distribution available per unit of CCT units most likely will be reduced due to the dilution effect of the rights issue. New investors getting the rights units will be entitled to the dividends/ distributions given out by CCT for this year starting from 1 Jan 2009.

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31-May-2009 11:25

ST Engineering / ST Engg

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Emm, how u explain why investor still want to up his percentage level to 5%. Something must be up, n that trigger it.

No investor will want to vest in a ship with sinking share price. Maybe let wait n see if there is any GOOD news coming

out soon. Cheers. Smiley

wongmx6 ( Date: 30-May-2009 06:10) Posted:

Its first Quarter report mentioned that this year Profit before Tax will be comparable with year of 2008.

Last year EPS only about 16Cents.

Not hard to imigaine that current trading price is not cheap at about PE ratio of 15.

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31-May-2009 11:14

Others / Father retirement $$ invest in FD or shares?

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30-May-2009 21:45

CharteredSC / Chartered uprising

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If taking over not true, than short this baby. Smiley

For all this years, heard a few take over already. But never happen. Emm this time not sure will come truth.

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30-May-2009 21:41

Pacific Andes / Discussion Corner for PACIFIC ANDES RIGHT

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Emm thank again. Emm now find it easier to surf. BTW did u vest in this baby?

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30-May-2009 21:37

CapitaCom Trust / CapitComm RIGHT Discussion Corner

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Not sure if CCT will give Dividend this coming July09. According the past record as shown below, there should be.

Hope CCT do a Capitaland, remember capitaland still give out Divi even after issuing RIGHTs.

Smiley

Have divi , that will be best.

Company Name	Type	Expiry Date	Record Date	Date Paid/Payable	Particulars

CAPITACOMMERCIAL TRUST	DIVIDEND	30 Jul 2008	1 Aug 2008	28 Aug 2008	010108 - 300608 SGD 0.0516 LESS TAX
CAPITACOMMERCIAL TRUST	DIVIDEND	30 Jul 2008	1 Aug 2008	28 Aug 2008	010108 - 300608 SGD 0.0003 TAX EXEMPT
CAPITACOMMERCIAL TRUST	DIVIDEND	30 Jan 2008	1 Feb 2008	29 Feb 2008	010707-311207 SGD 0.0032 TAX EXEMPT
CAPITACOMMERCIAL TRUST	DIVIDEND	30 Jan 2008	1 Feb 2008	29 Feb 2008	010707-311207 SGD 0.0415 LESS TAX

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30-May-2009 15:43

Pacific Andes / Discussion Corner for PACIFIC ANDES RIGHT

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Oh sorry, take back below divi news. Its a old news. Divi for 2008. Haha sorry sorry.

Still prefer last time SGX. The news display easlier to read.

Emm anyway, i had vest in this one. Hope it sail well. Cheers.

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30-May-2009 15:41

Pacific Andes / Discussion Corner for PACIFIC ANDES RIGHT

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Emm this stock share value should be quite competitive for this few mths. Emm they are giving divi soon as well.

Particulars :	SCRIPDIVSCHEME SGD 0.0207
Financial Year End :	31 Mar 2008
Ex-date :	6 Aug 2008
Buy-In Last Cum Date :	11 Aug 2008
Record Date :	8 Aug 2008
Date Paid/Payable :	26 Sep 2008

Last updated on 09/10/2008 03:00:54 AM

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30-May-2009 15:37

Pacific Andes / Discussion Corner for PACIFIC ANDES RIGHT

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Thanks boss fr the detail explanation. Smiley

Alligator ( Date: 30-May-2009 12:51) Posted:

This rights issue, simplified to be 1 rights for every 1 share at issue price of 0.15, with free 1 warrant for every 5 rights subscribed and warrant expiry is 2-year with exercising price of 0.25

With current market price of mother share at about 39cents, the warrant is already 'In the money'. therefore to work out theoretical ex-rights price:

mother shares, 1 lot or 1000 shares = 0.39x1000=390

rights shares, 1000 at 0.15 =150

warrant 1/5 of rights at 0.23=200x0.23=46

total cost ==586

total qty with rights and warrant=1000+1000+200=2200

estimate total cost/total qty =586/2200=26.6cents

so, if the mother share trade about 39cents, when ex-rights its price is likely adjusted to 27cents. of course mother share price will change and thus ex-right price also change according to dilution effect as well as market sentiment.

Your question on how to play warrant... warrant is issued free of charge and attached to rights that is exercised. therefore, if you want to exercise then you get 1warrant for 5 exercied rights . Each warrant entitled you to exercise at a price of 0.23 within two year expiry. As this is 1 for 5 thus the warrant dilution is not too large as it is 20% of right issue , this act as a sweatener to make entitled shareholder happy to hold warrant.

As this point warrant is priced at 23cents, if mother share price is much higher than 39 cents, the warrant become very attractively priced. on the other hand, if mother share price drops below 31 cents then the ex-rights price become less than 0.23 and it will make warrant not in money ( you can read Golden Agri's case, its warrant is priced out of current market price).

Warrant will be listed in SGX after the Rights issue exercise. Once listed in SGX, warrant can be traded just like share. You must either sell the warrant for money , or exercise by paying 0.23 to convert to mother share, before its expiry. Once expired, it becomes worthless.

Warrant exercising must go through a paper work process , fill up form, pay cashier order or banker draft to the Warrant Agent. Wait few days for their processing before it become credited into your CDP.

hope this help.

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30-May-2009 13:22

Genting Sing / Genting moving up fast.

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Hope so (on what u mention Genting trading price will be weaken), so i can get some more of Genting share (mine is long term play for this counter). Smiley

teeth53 ( Date: 29-May-2009 20:58) Posted:

After game is over, trading price may weaken as they are force selling coming....just my guess, (short into weakness only when is falling - for today BBs trying to catch shortist).

Sell into strength only when going is good and when price surge up/

dealer0168 ( Date: 28-May-2009 23:14) Posted:

Rumour say he is keen on Macau Gamble business there. Thus he sell 9% of his Genting share to free up cash for its.

Actually this things should not impact Genting progress at all.

But i believe Genting may keep falling for this few days, as the contra player need to cut lost at the best price.

My GUESS Smiley

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30-May-2009 12:27

Pacific Andes / Discussion Corner for PACIFIC ANDES RIGHT

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Will appreciate if someone can share on how to play the warrant given free when subscribe 5 RIGHT (correct me if i interpret wrongly).

And maybe we can also discuss on the prospect of this stock.

And below are the analyst rating for this stock:

By Carmen Lee
Tue, 26 May 2009, 08:01:35 SGT

Summary: Pacific Andes Holdings (PAH) posted better than expected net earnings of HK$664m for FY09, up 38% YoY. The group has also declared dividend per share of 2.07 S cents per share (same as last year), giving an attractive yield of 6.8% based on pre-suspension price of S$0.305. Together with the FY09 results, PAH also proposed a renounceable underwritten Rights issue on the basis of one rights share for every one existing share held and one warrant for every five Rights shares at an issue price of S$0.15 per Rights share. Key shareholder Pacific Andes International Holdings Ltd (PAIH), which holds a 65.1% stake in PAH, has given its irrevocable undertaking to subscribe for its entitlements. Demand and pricing seem to be holding well and not affected by the recent H1N1 scare or the current global recession. This has given us confidence to raise our selling prices for its fish and fishmeal products as well as including organic growth from the above vessel redeployment exercise. Rolling our estimates into FY10 & FY11, we are raising our fair value estimate from 30 cents to 63 cents (based on 6x blended earnings). Maintain BUY.

Good set of FY09 results. Pacific Andes Holdings (PAH) posted better than expected net earnings of HK$664m for FY09, up 38% YoY. While revenue was in line with our expectation, up 12% to HK7847m, the better bottomline performance was partly due to deferred tax credit of HK$70m in FY09 versus tax charge of HK$26m in the previous year. This is not expected to recur in FY10. PAH’s 4Q earnings came in at HK$237m, up 8% YoY and 172% QoQ. Revenue also improved in 4Q by 23% YoY and 120% QoQ to HK$637m. 4QFY09 margins showed across the board improvement from 3QFY09, but FY09 margins were slightly lower than FY08. Note the group has not declared any dividend for FY09.

Rights issue to meet working capital needs. Together with the FY09 results, PAH also proposed a renounceable underwritten Rights issue on the basis of one rights share for every one existing share held and one warrant for every five Rights shares at an issue price of S$0.15 per Rights share. This is at a 51% discount to the pre-suspension price of S$0.305. The exercise price for the warrants is fixed at S$0.23. Key shareholder Pacific Andes International Holdings Ltd (PAIH), which holds a 65.1% stake in PAH, has given its irrevocable undertaking to subscribe for its entitlements. We estimate that net gearing will drop from 91% to 76% with the Rights issue.

Maintain BUY, up fair value estimate to 63 cents. In addition to the good results, management reassured us that the deployment of the five vessels to the South Pacific is on track and should commence contribution in 2QFY10. Demand and pricing seem to be holding well and not affected by the recent H1N1 scare or the current global recession. This has given us confidence to raise our selling prices for its fish and fishmeal products as well as including organic growth from the above vessel redeployment exercise. We are also revising up our FY10 earnings estimate from HK$440m to HK$720m and introducing FY11 earnings expectation of HK$822m, up 14% YoY. Rolling our estimates into FY10 & FY11, we are raising our fair value estimate from 30 cents to 63 cents (based on 6x blended earnings). Maintain BUY.

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30-May-2009 12:20

Pacific Andes / Discussion Corner for PACIFIC ANDES RIGHT

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Sorry previous article corrupted again (ignore the previous). Read this one.....instead:

The Company expects to raise up to approximately S$228.6 million by way of a renounceable underwritten rights issue and up to approximately S$70.1 million from the exercise of the warrants The proceeds will be used to enlarge PAH’s working capital

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30-May-2009 12:18

Pacific Andes / Discussion Corner for PACIFIC ANDES RIGHT

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Some more information to share out at this discussion corner:

underwritten rights issue and up to approximately S$70.1 million from the exercise of the

warrants1)The Company expects to raise up to approximately S$228.6 million by way of a renounceable

And the proceeds will be used to enlarge PAH’s working capital

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30-May-2009 12:10

Golden Agri-Res / GoldenAgr

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Agreed, too expensive. Below $0.40 still ok. My TP for this baby is $0.40.

So my entry price must be 10% lesser than $0.40. So $0.36 will be a better price for me.

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30-May-2009 12:04

Pacific Andes / Discussion Corner for PACIFIC ANDES RIGHT

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Have a question on the free warrant that will be given out for every 5 rights subscribed (correct me if i interpret wrongly based on the article below)?

How to play warrant, anyone can advise. New to warrant play. Smiley

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