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ipunter genius, thou shall have your wish granted tmr morning. Then again, how to exit fei fei under such circumstances? Regarding this, must consult my
juicy sifu on how to grab knives.
I think....can u invite your friend bon bon here to post his predictions tonite? Thank you v much
iPunter ( Date: 22-Feb-2011 20:32) Posted:
Looks like there's no chance for me to short at a meaty 2.15/2.18 ...
Then I will be waiting to bet again @1.85 (buy)...  .
Gaecia ( Date: 22-Feb-2011 20:13) Posted:
wow okay....thank God i dare not tikam play with monster this time round, don't need to dye again.
For the first time since late last year I find such huge volume on sgx in one single trading day. 2 billion volume on a down day, conviction has set in |
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I agreed. The market wont care if you consider it to be a good result. Expect a huge selldown hitting 300mil vol tomorrow.
iPunter ( Date: 22-Feb-2011 20:40) Posted:
Two persons reading the same report will come to different conclusions, or none...
This is called bias, or prejudice... But the market won't care a damn what people think...
Citigold ( Date: 22-Feb-2011 20:34) Posted:
| Another misleading report.
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Two persons reading the same report will come to different conclusions, or none...
This is called bias, or prejudice... But the market won't care a damn what people think...
Citigold ( Date: 22-Feb-2011 20:34) Posted:
Another misleading report.
Gaecia ( Date: 22-Feb-2011 20:27) Posted:
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Another misleading report.
Gaecia ( Date: 22-Feb-2011 20:27) Posted:
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Looks like there's no chance for me to short at a meaty
2.15/2.18 ...
Then I will be waiting to bet again @
1.85 (buy)...
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Gaecia ( Date: 22-Feb-2011 20:13) Posted:
wow okay....thank God i dare not tikam play with monster this time round, don't need to dye again.
For the first time since late last year I find such huge volume on sgx in one single trading day. 2 billion volume on a down day, conviction has set in.
bladez87 ( Date: 22-Feb-2011 19:05) Posted:
| i think tmr Gensp gap down, so people who want bail better be fast. or it might rally for a while, trap people, then falllll
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Cosco is proposing to give 7Cent Dividend again which every year they give....only last year they give 3 cent due to financial crisis. I Hope Cosco to find it bottom soon... I already hold till buay Tahan liao :(((
http://www.theedgesingapore.com/index.php
Headline news on Genting Singapore's earnings. I cannot pick up any positive vibes from the article.
Same thinking especially the opening of MBS for the next Quarter to compare... better run ... if i want to buy i will buy at July-Aug
tiancai007 ( Date: 22-Feb-2011 20:10) Posted:
There will be confirm, guarantee plus chop gap down of 20c tomorrow opening, follow by easing of the selling pressure. Let's stop comforting ourselves like last quarter. The number speaks for itself. Those bought at the high of 2.35 last quarter better cut loss early. This is a sinking vessel. Sad...
Citigold ( Date: 22-Feb-2011 19:55) Posted:
| Y not wait n see first?
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wow okay....thank God i dare not tikam play with monster this time round, don't need to dye again.
For the first time since late last year I find such huge volume on sgx in one single trading day. 2 billion volume on a
down day, conviction has set in.
bladez87 ( Date: 22-Feb-2011 19:05) Posted:
| i think tmr Gensp gap down, so people who want bail better be fast. or it might rally for a while, trap people, then falllll
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There will be confirm, guarantee plus chop gap down of 20c tomorrow opening, follow by easing of the selling pressure. Let's stop comforting ourselves like last quarter. The number speaks for itself. Those bought at the high of 2.35 last quarter better cut loss early. This is a sinking vessel. Sad...
Citigold ( Date: 22-Feb-2011 19:55) Posted:
Y not wait n see first?
sinetic8 ( Date: 22-Feb-2011 19:46) Posted:
sure big movement. now i just thinking which price to throw all my bullets in.. after this chance no more liao.. cause their only disposal has taken effect last Q. Next Quarter will CNY, will be a boost from now.
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If got go up better run... dun hold till next Quarter...next Quarter sure no good... just my opinion
Citigold ( Date: 22-Feb-2011 19:39) Posted:
Ya,maybe tml not much movement at all.
rotijai ( Date: 22-Feb-2011 19:07) Posted:
don care whether it's good or bad.. will instantly sell tmr morning :)
1 lot to bet the outcome : |
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Y not wait n see first?
sinetic8 ( Date: 22-Feb-2011 19:46) Posted:
sure big movement. now i just thinking which price to throw all my bullets in.. after this chance no more liao.. cause their only disposal has taken effect last Q. Next Quarter will CNY, will be a boost from now.
Citigold ( Date: 22-Feb-2011 19:39) Posted:
| Ya,maybe tml not much movement at all.
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sure big movement. now i just thinking which price to throw all my bullets in.. after this chance no more liao.. cause their only disposal has taken effect last Q. Next Quarter will CNY, will be a boost from now.
Citigold ( Date: 22-Feb-2011 19:39) Posted:
Ya,maybe tml not much movement at all.
rotijai ( Date: 22-Feb-2011 19:07) Posted:
don care whether it's good or bad.. will instantly sell tmr morning :)
1 lot to bet the outcome : |
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Revenue only increase by 6%...u call that good??? Most important is profit got increase vs last Quarter or year on year,my frenz....
risktaker ( Date: 22-Feb-2011 19:30) Posted:
Let me teach you how to read the report.
1) Revenue S$775.2 Million an increase of 6% over last quarter (3rd QuarteR) - Revenue must growth by at least 5% as seasons period during the Q4 and they beat it. Revenue is very important it shows if your growing or not.
2) EBITDA S$389.8 Million an increase of S$40 million as compare to 349 million in Q3 - Margin is not over 50% and the win rate of RWS is more attractive and I like it because people will preferred RWS..... unlike MBS.
Why net profit drop to $91 million in Q4 ?
The main 3 items that reduce Genting SP Q4 net profit.
1) Loss on discontinuance of cash flow hedge accounting using interest rate swaps of S$61.6 million arising from settlement of interest rate swaps in December 2010 ? I am sure people are puzzle whats that.
In December, RWSPL signed a commitment letter to refinance its existing loan facilities. The proposed re-financing of S$4.1925 billion, comprises of a S$3.5 billion term loan facility, S$0.5 billion in revolving credit facility and a S$192.5 million banker‟ s guarantee facility. Following this refinancing, RWSPL has terminated the interest rate swaps, resulting in a loss on termination of S$61.6 million and discontinued hedge accounting for the interest rate swaps. The refinancing facilities were completed on 1 February 2011.
Refinancing will give you better interest rate which will in turn save you millions and free itself from certain restrictions on how they use the money. Example previously they cannot pay dividend until they payout their loans.
2) Additional deferred tax from UK operations - 38 million. No choice you had to take it.
3) Finance Cost added another 41 million - Year End Bonuses. Well the RWS is rewarding its staff and if you reward your staff well. They will perform and if they perform RWS will do well.
After Reading Genting SP report. I am really positive with its future.
Universal Studios Singapore continues to expand its attractions providing all visitors with wonderful memorable experiences. The Battlestar Galactica duelling coasters, the world‟ s tallest duelling coasters, officially opened on 21 February 2011. Two other major attractions will open during the year - Journey to Madagascar: A Crate Adventure and Transformers will make its world debut in Universal Studios Singapore in the first and second half of 2011 respectively. The park welcomed more than 2 million visitors last year, and daily park attendance will more than double in 2011. The casino sees strong visitorship in both VIP and mass segments. We continue to roll out fresh benefits for our members, with exclusive events, privileges and benefits.
MICE business has been strong with high event bookings for 2011 as RWS able to provide surprising and differentiated venues in its sprawling resort environment. In food & beverage, Joel Robuchon, the world‟ s most decorated chef with 26 Michelin stars, will open three outlets in RWS from second quarter 2011.
2011 continues to be an exciting year as the resort ramps up to full completion in 2012, adding to the breadth of our appeal and offerings for the leisure and family visitor.
Development of the second phase – the West Zone proceeds at full speed, with The Maritime Experiential Museum and Aquarium scheduled to open in mid-2011
. New attractions such as The Marine Life Park and destination spa ESPA will follow, together with two new luxury hotels that will add another 450 keys to our room inventory. RWS will ramp up to full completion in 2012, and on completion will provide even greater tourism appeal and scale.
The West Zone will reinforce RWS‟ s standing as the integrated resort of choice to all visitors from Asia.
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Ya,maybe tml not much movement at all.
rotijai ( Date: 22-Feb-2011 19:07) Posted:
don care whether it's good or bad.. will instantly sell tmr morning :)
1 lot to bet the outcome :)
Citigold ( Date: 22-Feb-2011 19:02) Posted:
In short,Genting SP had net profit of $657million FY2010. Bullish news for me but not sure how the market will react to it .
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What a pity ,they did not give out dividends FY2010.Perhaps in 2011
risktaker ( Date: 22-Feb-2011 19:30) Posted:
Let me teach you how to read the report.
1) Revenue S$775.2 Million an increase of 6% over last quarter (3rd QuarteR) - Revenue must growth by at least 5% as seasons period during the Q4 and they beat it. Revenue is very important it shows if your growing or not.
2) EBITDA S$389.8 Million an increase of S$40 million as compare to 349 million in Q3 - Margin is not over 50% and the win rate of RWS is more attractive and I like it because people will preferred RWS..... unlike MBS.
Why net profit drop to $91 million in Q4 ?
The main 3 items that reduce Genting SP Q4 net profit.
1) Loss on discontinuance of cash flow hedge accounting using interest rate swaps of S$61.6 million arising from settlement of interest rate swaps in December 2010 ? I am sure people are puzzle whats that.
In December, RWSPL signed a commitment letter to refinance its existing loan facilities. The proposed re-financing of S$4.1925 billion, comprises of a S$3.5 billion term loan facility, S$0.5 billion in revolving credit facility and a S$192.5 million banker‟ s guarantee facility. Following this refinancing, RWSPL has terminated the interest rate swaps, resulting in a loss on termination of S$61.6 million and discontinued hedge accounting for the interest rate swaps. The refinancing facilities were completed on 1 February 2011.
Refinancing will give you better interest rate which will in turn save you millions and free itself from certain restrictions on how they use the money. Example previously they cannot pay dividend until they payout their loans.
2) Additional deferred tax from UK operations - 38 million. No choice you had to take it.
3) Finance Cost added another 41 million - Year End Bonuses. Well the RWS is rewarding its staff and if you reward your staff well. They will perform and if they perform RWS will do well.
After Reading Genting SP report. I am really positive with its future.
Universal Studios Singapore continues to expand its attractions providing all visitors with wonderful memorable experiences. The Battlestar Galactica duelling coasters, the world‟ s tallest duelling coasters, officially opened on 21 February 2011. Two other major attractions will open during the year - Journey to Madagascar: A Crate Adventure and Transformers will make its world debut in Universal Studios Singapore in the first and second half of 2011 respectively. The park welcomed more than 2 million visitors last year, and daily park attendance will more than double in 2011. The casino sees strong visitorship in both VIP and mass segments. We continue to roll out fresh benefits for our members, with exclusive events, privileges and benefits.
MICE business has been strong with high event bookings for 2011 as RWS able to provide surprising and differentiated venues in its sprawling resort environment. In food & beverage, Joel Robuchon, the world‟ s most decorated chef with 26 Michelin stars, will open three outlets in RWS from second quarter 2011.
2011 continues to be an exciting year as the resort ramps up to full completion in 2012, adding to the breadth of our appeal and offerings for the leisure and family visitor.
Development of the second phase – the West Zone proceeds at full speed, with The Maritime Experiential Museum and Aquarium scheduled to open in mid-2011
. New attractions such as The Marine Life Park and destination spa ESPA will follow, together with two new luxury hotels that will add another 450 keys to our room inventory. RWS will ramp up to full completion in 2012, and on completion will provide even greater tourism appeal and scale.
The West Zone will reinforce RWS‟ s standing as the integrated resort of choice to all visitors from Asia.
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Let me teach you how to read the report.
1) Revenue S$775.2 Million an increase of 6% over last quarter (3rd QuarteR) - Revenue must growth by at least 5% as seasons period during the Q4 and they beat it. Revenue is very important it shows if your growing or not.
2) EBITDA S$389.8 Million an increase of S$40 million as compare to 349 million in Q3 - Margin is not over 50% and the win rate of RWS is more attractive and I like it because people will preferred RWS..... unlike MBS.
Why net profit drop to $91 million in Q4 ?
The main 3 items that reduce Genting SP Q4 net profit.
1) Loss on discontinuance of cash flow hedge accounting using interest rate swaps of S$61.6 million arising from settlement of interest rate swaps in December 2010 ? I am sure people are puzzle whats that.
In December, RWSPL signed a commitment letter to refinance its existing loan facilities. The proposed re-financing of S$4.1925 billion, comprises of a S$3.5 billion term loan facility, S$0.5 billion in revolving credit facility and a S$192.5 million banker‟ s guarantee facility. Following this refinancing, RWSPL has terminated the interest rate swaps, resulting in a loss on termination of S$61.6 million and discontinued hedge accounting for the interest rate swaps. The refinancing facilities were completed on 1 February 2011.
Refinancing will give you better interest rate which will in turn save you millions and free itself from certain restrictions on how they use the money. Example previously they cannot pay dividend until they payout their loans.
2) Additional deferred tax from UK operations - 38 million. No choice you had to take it.
3) Finance Cost added another 41 million - Year End Bonuses. Well the RWS is rewarding its staff and if you reward your staff well. They will perform and if they perform RWS will do well.
After Reading Genting SP report. I am really positive with its future.
Universal Studios Singapore continues to expand its attractions providing all visitors with wonderful memorable experiences. The Battlestar Galactica duelling coasters, the world‟ s tallest duelling coasters, officially opened on 21 February 2011. Two other major attractions will open during the year - Journey to Madagascar: A Crate Adventure and Transformers will make its world debut in Universal Studios Singapore in the first and second half of 2011 respectively. The park welcomed more than 2 million visitors last year, and daily park attendance will more than double in 2011. The casino sees strong visitorship in both VIP and mass segments. We continue to roll out fresh benefits for our members, with exclusive events, privileges and benefits.
MICE business has been strong with high event bookings for 2011 as RWS able to provide surprising and differentiated venues in its sprawling resort environment. In food & beverage, Joel Robuchon, the world‟ s most decorated chef with 26 Michelin stars, will open three outlets in RWS from second quarter 2011.
2011 continues to be an exciting year as the resort ramps up to full completion in 2012, adding to the breadth of our appeal and offerings for the leisure and family visitor.
Development of the second phase – the West Zone proceeds at full speed, with The Maritime Experiential Museum and Aquarium scheduled to open in mid-2011
. New attractions such as The Marine Life Park and destination spa ESPA will follow, together with two new luxury hotels that will add another 450 keys to our room inventory. RWS will ramp up to full completion in 2012, and on completion will provide even greater tourism appeal and scale.
The West Zone will reinforce RWS‟ s standing as the integrated resort of choice to all visitors from Asia.
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As long as business is good,10yrs to repay also no problem to me.This mid 2011,we can see more opening attraction in the resort,2012 will be a full blast ramp ip ops from Genting SP.
bladez87 ( Date: 22-Feb-2011 19:06) Posted:
initially people said within 3 years can repay all long term loans and give dividend. now at this rate at least 6-7 years
Citigold ( Date: 22-Feb-2011 19:02) Posted:
In short,Genting SP had net profit of $657million FY2010. Bullish news for me but not sure how the market will react to it .
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O.O surprise that 3rd Quarter result is better than 4th Quarter... I tot this Quarter will be still ok... but next Quarter sure no good....
BullishTempo ( Date: 22-Feb-2011 18:23) Posted:
GenSp lost money this quarter. Bear surprise lol....
Congratz to those who stayed out of the market.
And I advocate that nobody venture into this market till STI bottoms out, and STI has far from bottomed out.
epliew ( Date: 22-Feb-2011 18:09) Posted:
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