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eastcivic
    24-Feb-2011 14:39  
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no la.... it means you only think about the stocks when you pang sai....

when in front of the computer, cannot  think..... if your trading system/plan says cut, just cut, cannot and do not need to think, just execute it

iPunter      ( Date: 24-Feb-2011 14:37) Posted:



It means you must think of stocks even when 'pang sai'... Smiley



 
 
rotijai
    24-Feb-2011 14:39  
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or rather.. only cry or happy about stocks when u pang sai..

:P

iPunter      ( Date: 24-Feb-2011 14:37) Posted:



It means you must think of stocks even when 'pang sai'... Smiley



 
 
iPunter
    24-Feb-2011 14:37  
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It means you must think of stocks even when 'pang sai'... Smiley


 

 
epliew
    24-Feb-2011 14:32  
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thanks! got it.

wow, what do u mean for emotions in the toilet ? 

artng25      ( Date: 24-Feb-2011 13:35) Posted:

When you trade CFD's, you must go in with a entry/exit plan (strategy) and stick to it..... better still leave your emotions in the toilet............


Gaecia      ( Date: 24-Feb-2011 13:11) Posted:



epl, can u don't  use cfd?

Main reason is, it really is  a bad period to trade on sg market right now. The intraday  candle movements  and eod charts are  showing whipsaws  & jagged pattern,  getting increasingly  difficult to  read unlike before.  Switching to cfd from cash a/c  is  real easy to mau more lots because it appears cheaper per trade with 10 - 20% capital required as opposed to using  cash a/c. Losses and  gains are multipled because of risks exposure.  It is really very easy to lose money in the  stock market. Do u really  want  such risks? Plus  with margin statistics ticking live on the trading platform, it  can make one unable to  control anxiety  or execute trades with a clear mind. Moreover,  you need to focus on your day job, it is a priority for you  as  the breadwinner of your family


 
 
iPunter
    24-Feb-2011 14:17  
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Whether one has a CDF account or not, 

    It is important to make sure one is expert in playing long first.

        One must never be 'gay kiang' (hero) and start to 'short the bugger'

                even before one knows how to play long positions well.

                      If this advice is not followed, one is highly likely to

                            be smacked and smacked by the market, until one starts

                                  to tremble (fear of shorting) on hearing the word " short" ... Smiley
 
 
artng25
    24-Feb-2011 14:15  
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CFD's can be a good servant but a bad master.........

eastcivic      ( Date: 24-Feb-2011 14:00) Posted:



epl.... no offence intended here but it seems like you just sign up to open a cfd account without researching.

i suggest you call up your cfd service provider. arrange for an info session with them. they would and should be more than happy to arrange one with you.

go down, and  find out from them  how cfd works.... when will your account trigger a margin call.... the risks involve in cfds.... the daily finance interest rates, the commission etc.....

i think they would give you a better answer than all of us here. cfd can be very dangerous, so really important that you get all the correction information and knowledge about it before you play.

 

epliew      ( Date: 24-Feb-2011 13:04) Posted:



Ms eilte Gaecia.

Care  to explain the $10 to $9 dollars, what will be effect on  the cfd position closed or just need to topped up


 

 
eastcivic
    24-Feb-2011 14:00  
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epl.... no offence intended here but it seems like you just sign up to open a cfd account without researching.

i suggest you call up your cfd service provider. arrange for an info session with them. they would and should be more than happy to arrange one with you.

go down, and  find out from them  how cfd works.... when will your account trigger a margin call.... the risks involve in cfds.... the daily finance interest rates, the commission etc.....

i think they would give you a better answer than all of us here. cfd can be very dangerous, so really important that you get all the correction information and knowledge about it before you play.

 

epliew      ( Date: 24-Feb-2011 13:04) Posted:



Ms eilte Gaecia.

Care  to explain the $10 to $9 dollars, what will be effect on  the cfd position closed or just need to topped up ?

Gaecia      ( Date: 24-Feb-2011 11:30) Posted:



But if $10 goes to $9, one loses 5k on that trade  even thou the  margin amount required  to purchase 5 lots of ocbc  is  only 5k not 50k unlike cash a/c. However, one will still win or lose the fully amount as if on cash a/c because cfd is a leveraged instrument, that's it.

hmm...noble back to 1.99 now. Can buy or not ec, juicy? 


 
 
artng25
    24-Feb-2011 13:35  
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When you trade CFD's, you must go in with a entry/exit plan (strategy) and stick to it..... better still leave your emotions in the toilet............


Gaecia      ( Date: 24-Feb-2011 13:11) Posted:



epl, can u don't  use cfd?

Main reason is, it really is  a bad period to trade on sg market right now. The intraday  candle movements  and eod charts are  showing whipsaws  & jagged pattern,  getting increasingly  difficult to  read unlike before.  Switching to cfd from cash a/c  is  real easy to mau more lots because it appears cheaper per trade with 10 - 20% capital required as opposed to using  cash a/c. Losses and  gains are multipled because of risks exposure.  It is really very easy to lose money in the  stock market. Do u really  want  such risks? Plus  with margin statistics ticking live on the trading platform, it  can make one unable to  control anxiety  or execute trades with a clear mind. Moreover,  you need to focus on your day job, it is a priority for you  as  the breadwinner of your family.

epliew      ( Date: 24-Feb-2011 12:44) Posted:

ms gaecia, correct or not


 
 
Gaecia
    24-Feb-2011 13:15  
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epl, don't trade sti for now.  This is the best advice you get from Bullish. Otherwise since you cannot outsmart him in his profession, get him to trade  on your behalf  or be your remiser!
 
 
iPunter
    24-Feb-2011 13:13  
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Usually when people play CFD, they don't want to make kachang puteh...

      Just like when they play warrants, they also don't like to play kachang...

              All because it is  so 'cheap' (affordable)... Smiley


Gaecia      ( Date: 24-Feb-2011 11:30) Posted:



But if $10 goes to $9, one loses 5k on that trade  even thou the  margin amount required  to purchase 5 lots of ocbc  is  only 5k not 50k unlike cash a/c. However, one will still win or lose the fully amount as if on cash a/c because cfd is a leveraged instrument, that's it.

hmm...noble back to 1.99 now. Can buy or not ec, juicy? 

 

 
Gaecia
    24-Feb-2011 13:11  
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epl, can u don't  use cfd?

Main reason is, it really is  a bad period to trade on sg market right now. The intraday  candle movements  and eod charts are  showing whipsaws  & jagged pattern,  getting increasingly  difficult to  read unlike before.  Switching to cfd from cash a/c  is  real easy to mau more lots because it appears cheaper per trade with 10 - 20% capital required as opposed to using  cash a/c. Losses and  gains are multipled because of risks exposure.  It is really very easy to lose money in the  stock market. Do u really  want  such risks? Plus  with margin statistics ticking live on the trading platform, it  can make one unable to  control anxiety  or execute trades with a clear mind. Moreover,  you need to focus on your day job, it is a priority for you  as  the breadwinner of your family.

epliew      ( Date: 24-Feb-2011 12:44) Posted:

ms gaecia, correct or not ?

eastcivic      ( Date: 24-Feb-2011 11:12) Posted:



depends on your equity/capital in your cfd account.

example. if you have $1,000 deposited in your cfd account.

short 1 lot of sembmar at 5.21.... your balance capital would be $1000-(10% x 1,000 x 5.21) = 479

today sembmar at 5.31, your balance capital would be 479 - [1000 x (5.31-5.21)] = 379

still do not need to top up because your capital is still not 0. once hits 0, then need to top up.

please correct me if i'm wrong......


 
 
epliew
    24-Feb-2011 13:04  
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Ms eilte Gaecia.

Care  to explain the $10 to $9 dollars, what will be effect on  the cfd position closed or just need to topped up ?

Gaecia      ( Date: 24-Feb-2011 11:30) Posted:



But if $10 goes to $9, one loses 5k on that trade  even thou the  margin amount required  to purchase 5 lots of ocbc  is  only 5k not 50k unlike cash a/c. However, one will still win or lose the fully amount as if on cash a/c because cfd is a leveraged instrument, that's it.

hmm...noble back to 1.99 now. Can buy or not ec, juicy? 

 
 
iPunter
    24-Feb-2011 12:59  
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Gaecia so happy...  can go travel round...

  But after making all the travelling, next time you will also be happy

        just to travel in Google Earth and  Google Streetview...

            At least not as exhausting as being there... Smiley


Gaecia      ( Date: 24-Feb-2011 12:36) Posted:



yes juicy, your special tip..thank you i want i want!  Can u tell me the more  special & interesting  places  to  check out? My first  visit there on  f& e  haven't decided on itinerary with my jie jie. Only  booked flight to taipei & nothing else haha. Yilan and sun moon lake worth making a stay there?

pm me  yup, or else will hav some moneyface pple complain about this thread soon.

icetomato      ( Date: 24-Feb-2011 12:20) Posted:

wei.. you all going to which part? I can pm you good driver/guide contact for certain area. haha...


 
 
epliew
    24-Feb-2011 12:54  
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ms gaecia,

all those places are very nice in  TW.... but lots of good eating places is main attraction in taiwan........  french/western food are cheaper than singapore..... local taiwanese foods are very nice......... unlimited selection but watch your weight........

taipei 101 there is a panaroma rest.... great view for entire city like our raffles city " compass rose" (old name not sure you know this place ?).

near 101 there  are a few  pubs where is a main attraction in the recent years..... my tw girlfriends all said good things about the cute bartenders......but i am more interested in those ladies there ....... sound like a pick up bar......... no harm go there and experience it....

Gaecia      ( Date: 24-Feb-2011 12:36) Posted:



yes juicy, your special tip..thank you i want i want!  Can u tell me the more  special & interesting  places  to  check out? My first  visit there on  f& e  haven't decided on itinerary with my jie jie. Only  booked flight to taipei & nothing else haha. Yilan and sun moon lake worth making a stay there?

pm me  yup, or else will hav some moneyface pple complain about this thread soon.

icetomato      ( Date: 24-Feb-2011 12:20) Posted:

wei.. you all going to which part? I can pm you good driver/guide contact for certain area. haha...


 
 
icetomato
    24-Feb-2011 12:48  
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Spas I'm not so sure. haha.

Ok. Let's go through direct  PM for anything too irrelevant here... the world is already messy enough, I don't want here to have war also. =p

eastcivic      ( Date: 24-Feb-2011 12:43) Posted:



i heard some of the spas in taiwan are very good.....

maybe icetomato can recommend you some.....

icetomato, when you pm gaecia, can you please send it to me as well? thank you! :D

Gaecia      ( Date: 24-Feb-2011 12:36) Posted:



yes juicy, your special tip..thank you i want i want!  Can u tell me the more  special & interesting  places  to  check out? My first  visit there on  f& e  haven't decided on itinerary with my jie jie. Only  booked flight to taipei & nothing else haha. Yilan and sun moon lake worth making a stay there?

pm me  yup, or else will hav some moneyface pple complain about this thread soon.


 

 
epliew
    24-Feb-2011 12:44  
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ms gaecia, correct or not ?

eastcivic      ( Date: 24-Feb-2011 11:12) Posted:



depends on your equity/capital in your cfd account.

example. if you have $1,000 deposited in your cfd account.

short 1 lot of sembmar at 5.21.... your balance capital would be $1000-(10% x 1,000 x 5.21) = 479

today sembmar at 5.31, your balance capital would be 479 - [1000 x (5.31-5.21)] = 379

still do not need to top up because your capital is still not 0. once hits 0, then need to top up.

please correct me if i'm wrong......

epliew      ( Date: 24-Feb-2011 11:06) Posted:



say for an example if ms gaecia short yesterday @ 5.21 and today it is 5.31

how much to topped up


 
 
eastcivic
    24-Feb-2011 12:43  
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i heard some of the spas in taiwan are very good.....

maybe icetomato can recommend you some.....

icetomato, when you pm gaecia, can you please send it to me as well? thank you! :D

Gaecia      ( Date: 24-Feb-2011 12:36) Posted:



yes juicy, your special tip..thank you i want i want!  Can u tell me the more  special & interesting  places  to  check out? My first  visit there on  f& e  haven't decided on itinerary with my jie jie. Only  booked flight to taipei & nothing else haha. Yilan and sun moon lake worth making a stay there?

pm me  yup, or else will hav some moneyface pple complain about this thread soon.

icetomato      ( Date: 24-Feb-2011 12:20) Posted:

wei.. you all going to which part? I can pm you good driver/guide contact for certain area. haha...


 
 
Gaecia
    24-Feb-2011 12:36  
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yes juicy, your special tip..thank you i want i want!  Can u tell me the more  special & interesting  places  to  check out? My first  visit there on  f& e  haven't decided on itinerary with my jie jie. Only  booked flight to taipei & nothing else haha. Yilan and sun moon lake worth making a stay there?

pm me  yup, or else will hav some moneyface pple complain about this thread soon.

icetomato      ( Date: 24-Feb-2011 12:20) Posted:

wei.. you all going to which part? I can pm you good driver/guide contact for certain area. haha...

eastcivic      ( Date: 24-Feb-2011 12:16) Posted:



ooooohhhh i'm thinking of going to taiwan end december to kua nian! :D

thanks tomato for the pm


 
 
eastcivic
    24-Feb-2011 12:26  
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no idea yet..... but going to kua nian.....  thinking of  going to the one with Mayday performance :D

icetomato      ( Date: 24-Feb-2011 12:20) Posted:

wei.. you all going to which part? I can pm you good driver/guide contact for certain area. haha...

eastcivic      ( Date: 24-Feb-2011 12:16) Posted:



ooooohhhh i'm thinking of going to taiwan end december to kua nian! :D

thanks tomato for the pm


 
 
icetomato
    24-Feb-2011 12:20  
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wei.. you all going to which part? I can pm you good driver/guide contact for certain area. haha...

eastcivic      ( Date: 24-Feb-2011 12:16) Posted:



ooooohhhh i'm thinking of going to taiwan end december to kua nian! :D

thanks tomato for the pm!

Gaecia      ( Date: 24-Feb-2011 12:14) Posted:

ec mid  next month i'm going taiwan for holiday, i help u check out the pretty girls & where to find them.  Will do a  special report  for  you upon return.  So far my ex-colleagues from taipei are  babelicious looking, i also want to learn from them! LO


 
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