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mlfbac
    01-Mar-2013 17:30  
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If it is any consolation, the  price seems to be moving back up.

Perhaps wait till you are not red, and clear off a portion.

Maybe leave whatever amount you are comfortable to hold for 2 years?

TingHai      ( Date: 01-Mar-2013 15:25) Posted:

can't sell already because in red now

Isolator      ( Date: 01-Mar-2013 15:10) Posted:

Why dont reply me? I need to know.... lo


 
 
yummygd
    01-Mar-2013 16:51  
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Damn ipco well supported at 30 . My buying price is too impossible to reach liao. Haiz
 
 
ace333
    01-Mar-2013 16:43  
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catch them 2 bids up from 0.03
 

 
ace333
    01-Mar-2013 16:42  
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LOL...slow shortist tio liak

ace333      ( Date: 01-Mar-2013 15:21) Posted:

SHORT COVERINGGGGGGG

 
 
ace333
    01-Mar-2013 16:34  
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bao got 2-3 bids or more volatility....but bo bao win....LOL

ace333      ( Date: 01-Mar-2013 16:32) Posted:

those who like to contra...super leverage...play out of yr budget come magnus....we hoot together

 
 
canbuy
    01-Mar-2013 16:32  
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Buy ah ...ka ka buy ah..... buy for next week .... LOL

Dont follow ......900% wrong
 

 
ace333
    01-Mar-2013 16:32  
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those who like to contra...super leverage...play out of yr budget come magnus....we hoot together
 
 
Isolator
    01-Mar-2013 16:26  
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Already told you..... is just to add joy and encouragement here..... give some support and confident too.... Need to explain so detail??? hmmmm.......zzzzz

fortunecat      ( Date: 01-Mar-2013 16:24) Posted:

if it's mid term, long term or 2 yrs... then dun everyday chant it's time, it's coming, rocket lifting 5..4..3..2..1, tomorrow is the day, next week is the week  these kind of things  lor...if not everyone not happy it never happens mah lol

 
 
fortunecat
    01-Mar-2013 16:24  
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if it's mid term, long term or 2 yrs... then dun everyday chant it's time, it's coming, rocket lifting 5..4..3..2..1, tomorrow is the day, next week is the week  these kind of things  lor...if not everyone not happy it never happens mah lol
 
 
Emptyhand
    01-Mar-2013 16:24  
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Hahaha

dingbat      ( Date: 01-Mar-2013 16:20) Posted:



kekeke. Get a room leh....

SmileySmileySmiley

Bigmama      ( Date: 01-Mar-2013 15:45) Posted:

No.... You ask me to hold long term. I believe


 

 
dekmelvie
    01-Mar-2013 16:23  
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im planning to buy @ .031

Still decent price to buy right?
 
 
dingbat
    01-Mar-2013 16:20  
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kekeke. Get a room leh....

SmileySmileySmiley

Bigmama      ( Date: 01-Mar-2013 15:45) Posted:

No.... You ask me to hold long term. I believe

Isolator      ( Date: 01-Mar-2013 15:10) Posted:

Why dont reply me? I need to know.... lo


 
 
mlfbac
    01-Mar-2013 16:17  
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Sorry to say this, but your posting does reck of some blaming.

Whether the stock, or in this case Ipco, is as good as mentioned, its still too early to tell.

Not siding anyone. But the facts are (not reproducing old posts, go search yourselfs)

Isolator did mention his first tp was 3.Xcents (which has materialised), the 10 cent etc was for the mid long term.

He  did mentioned that play pennies within ones means.

He did mentioned decide for yourself.

And yes, he did say buy... buy .., will go up ..etc

but lets face it, he is saying buy, base on his financial situation, not ours.

he is saying will go up to ... base on his holding power, not ours.

Personally, I dun agree with some of Isolator sayings... but that does not mean i disagree. Its just my own decision, me.

 

 

TingHai      ( Date: 01-Mar-2013 15:55) Posted:

Im not to blame anyone. But just hope the ppl don't over promote a  stock which is not as good as he mentioned. it will lead ppl to die.

yummygd      ( Date: 01-Mar-2013 15:42) Posted:

Ting Hai word of advice its best u cut loss n den exit e stock market totally. People who make statements like that... U be losing more in future. Because u dun understand. In the stock market. U r e one who make e call. N if things go bad. U r e one to be blame. Ur money . Ur call.


 
 
Isolator
    01-Mar-2013 16:17  
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It is so easy to understand.... why many dont understand it.... lol

guoyanyunyan      ( Date: 01-Mar-2013 16:15) Posted:



... if  2013 is a good year for ipco, the the verdict will only be known at end of 2013, now is too early to tell ....

  ... two years is an example, it can be one, two, three, doesn't affect the message ...Smiley

Isolator      ( Date: 01-Mar-2013 16:05) Posted:

I thought I have told is long term of 2 years..... And I have said 2013 is a good year for ipco too few mths ago..... Want to read post, please scroll all..... Actually I can stop posting at this price.... But I see so many blur blur here, so just post some encouragement..... lo


 
 
montyuu
    01-Mar-2013 16:16  
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  UNION BUDGET 2013 - 14 : QUICK GLANCE!!!
GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT ESTIMATED TO GROW AT  5.5 %, +/- 0.5 % IN FY13 - 14. 

AT CURRENT PRICES  THE ADVANCE GDP ESTIMATE OF 2012 - 13 IS  Rs. 87,35,400 LAKHS CR  AND AT 2004-05 PRICES ITS AT  Rs. 55,09,210 LAKHS CR.

FY14 TOTAL SUBSIDES AT Rs. 2,31,000 CR.
FY14 FERTILIZER SUBSIDIES AT   Rs. 66,000 CR.
FY14 FOOD SUBSIDIES AT   Rs. 90,000 CR.
FY14 OIL & PETROL SUBSIDIES AT   Rs. 65,000 CR.
FY14 FISCAL DEFICIT AT Rs. 5,42,000 CR.
FY14 GROSS MARKET LOANS ARE Rs. 6,29,000 CR.
STATE PF ARE Rs. 10,000 CR.
EXTERNAL AID ARE Rs.10,560 CR.
OTHERS ARE Rs. 12,297 CR.
THE CENTER'S EXPENDITURE 2013 - 14 IS PROJECTED AT  Rs. 14,90,925 Cr.

IN FLOW (Rs. in Cr)
CORPORATE TAX  4,19,520     
INCOME TAX  2,47,639
CUSTOMS DUTY  1,87,308
EXCISE DUTY  1,97,554
SERVICE TAX  1,80,141
TAX OF UNION  TERRITORY  2,758
TAX RECEIPTS FOR CENTRAL    8,84,078   
STATE's SHARE IN TAX RECEIPTS     3,50,842 
  TOTAL TAX RECEIPTS  12,34,920


NON TAX RECEIPTSAMOUNT      
INTEREST RECEIPTS17,764
DIVIDENDS & PROFITS73,866
EXTERNAL GRANTS1,456
OTHER NON TAX RECEIPTS78,000
RECEIPTS OF UNION  TERRITORY       1,166
              TOTAL1,72,252

NON DEBT CAPITAL RECEIPTS66,468 
RECOVERY OF LOANS & ADVANCES10,654
MISC. CAPITAL RECEIPTS55,814

* Out of the Tax Receipts the  Center  has to keep aside for Calamity & Contingency Fund of Rs. 4,800 Crs.

FISCAL DEFICIT (In Rs.)  AMOUNT      
MARKET LOAN  4,84,000
EXTERNAL AID  10,560
STATE PF  10,000
OTHERS  12,297
              TOTAL  5,42,499


OUT FLOW (Rs. in Cr)
PLAN EXPENDITURE5,55,322    
NON PLAN EXPENDITURE11,09,975
OR
REVENUE EXPENDITURE14,36,169
CAPITAL EXPENDITURE2,29,129
DEFENSE2,03,672
CENTRAL PLAN OUT LAY99,030
GRANTS TO STATES & UTs76,981
PENSIONS70,726
INTEREST PAYMENTS3,70,684
LOANS TO PSUs417
OTHER GENERAL SERVICES22,903
LESS OTHERS302
CENTRAL PLAN3,20,038
POSTAL DEFICIT6,717
EXPENSES of UTs with out Legislature4,395
NON PLAN CAPITAL OUTLAY30,131
ECONOMIC SERVICES24,334
GRANTS TO FOREIGN GOVT.4,114
CENTRAL PLAN AID TO STATES1,23,222
SOCIAL SERVICES23,114
POLICE SERVICE40,895

SOME MORE POINTS FROM BUDGET:-

  • No change in Income tax rates and slabs.
  • Imposed Surcharge of 10% on person whose taxable income exceeds Rs.1 Cr/yr. This will apply to Individuals, HUF's, Firms &   entities  with similar tax status.
  • The additional surcharge will be force for only one year i.e. FY 2013-14.
  • Increased surcharge from 5% to 10% on domestic  companies  whose taxable income  exceeds Rs.10 Cr/yr, in case of foreign  companies who pay the higher rate of Corp tax  the surcharge will increase from 2% to 5%.
  • Effective Tax rate @33.99% for domestic co. having income more than Rs.10 Cr.
  • Effective  MAT rate for Domestic co @21%.
  • DDT surcharge increased from 5% to 10%.
  • Tax credit of Rs. 2000 for income upto Rs.5 lakhs.
  • To impose TDS @1% on the value of the transfer of Immovable property wherein  consideration exceeds Rs. 50 lakhs, Agriculture land will be exempted.
  • STT on Equity futures reduced from 0.017 to 0.01 %.
  • STT on MF/ETF  redemptions  at fund counter reduced from 0.25 to 0.001%.
  • STT on MF/ETF purchase/sale on exchange reduced from 0.1 to 0.001% only on seller.
  • To levy CTT on non-agriculture commodities futures  contracts  at 0.01% of the price of  the trade. CTT will be allowed as deduction if the income from such  transaction forms  part of business income.
  • Import duty on Set Top Boxes raised from 5% to 10%.
  • Import duty on  Luxury  Cars & vehicles &   Yachts  raised from 75% to 100%.
  • Duty free Gold limit increased to Rs.50,000 in case of Male passenger &   Rs.1,00,000 in case of female passenger subject to conditions.
  • Excise duty on SUV's increased from 27% to 30%, not applicable to SUV  registered  as Taxis.
  • Effective custom duty on SUV's increased from 138% to 178%.
  • Vehicle Parking now comes under Service Tax.
  • PSU Banks to get Rs. 14,000 Cr for Recap &   Capital infusion of Rs. 12517 Cr by FY13.
  • Home Loans upto Rs. 25 lakhs to be allowed additional deduction of interest of Rs.1 lakh.
  • To set up India's first Women's Bank as a PSB with Rs. 1000 Cr as initial capital.  It will obtain the necessary approval & banking licence by October 2013.
  • FY14 disinvestment target Rs. 40,000 Crs.
  • Farm GDP was 3.6 % in 11th Plan in GDP growth of 5.6 %.
  • GOV. will need $75 billion to finance Current Account Deficit over next 2 years.
  • Investor holding stake of 10% or less in a company will be treated as FII.
  • Investor holding stake of more than 10% in a company will be treated as FDI.
  • FII will be permitted to use their investment in corporate bonds &   Gov. securities as collateral to meet their margin requirements.
  • Small & medium enterprise incl. Start Ups will be permitted to list  on SME Exchange  without being required to make an Initial Public Offer,but the issue will be  restricted to informed investor.
  • FII will be permitted to trade in Exchange Traded Currency Derivative  to the  extent of their Indian Rupee Exposure in India.
  • Stock Exchanges to be allowed to introduce Dedicated Debt Exchange.
  • JNNURM will be given Rs. 14873 Cr,this  will help in purchase of 10,000 buses by hilly stations.
  • More institutions be allowed to raise Tax Free Bonds upto a total sum of Rs.50,000 Cr.
  • Rajiv Gandhi Equity Saving Scheme to be liberalised -1st time investors can invest    into Mutual Funds & Listed shares for 3 successive years.  The income limit  will be raised from Rs. 10,00,000 to Rs. 12,00,000.
  • Investment allowance @15% to manufacturing company that invests more  than Rs. 100 Cr in plant & machinery during 1.4.2013 to 31.3.2015.
  • To introduce Inflation Indexed Bonds or Inflation Index National Security Certificates.
  • To provide Low Cost finance to viable renewable energy projects and Generation based incentives for Wind Energy projects.
  • Govt.  proposes to expand FM Radio services to 294 more cities & about 839 new FM radio channels will be auctioned in 2013-14,  All cities having  a population of more than 1 lkh will be covered by private FM radio   services.
  • Defence sector allocated Rs. 2.03 lakh Cr.
  • Corporate surcharge reduced from 7.5 % to 5 %.
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guoyanyunyan
    01-Mar-2013 16:15  
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... if  2013 is a good year for ipco, the the verdict will only be known at end of 2013, now is too early to tell ....

  ... two years is an example, it can be one, two, three, doesn't affect the message ...Smiley

Isolator      ( Date: 01-Mar-2013 16:05) Posted:

I thought I have told is long term of 2 years..... And I have said 2013 is a good year for ipco too few mths ago..... Want to read post, please scroll all..... Actually I can stop posting at this price.... But I see so many blur blur here, so just post some encouragement..... lol

guoyanyunyan      ( Date: 01-Mar-2013 15:54) Posted:



... if someone said hold Ipco for long term as it will be $0.10 for example.

... you need to ask how long is the long term. ..

... if the long term is two years, then the answer whether Ipco will hit $0.10 will only be known in two years time ...

... and this is an adult game, so ....Smiley  ... 

... day follows by night .... night follows by day ... 


 
 
yummygd
    01-Mar-2013 16:14  
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A little bit of homework on our part goes a long way. Next time read their financial report. Den determine ur risk appetite . Also follow e news a little. N understand the counter biz. Ipco is a good counter. Prospect super good. Unfortunately not the kind that go 10 cent in one breathe. Must buy n hold. The upside for ipco is big. As of current. But anything can change. Just pls realise. Those big shareholders are intending to grow the company n not to speculate the share price.

TingHai      ( Date: 01-Mar-2013 15:55) Posted:

Im not to blame anyone. But just hope the ppl don't over promote a  stock which is not as good as he mentioned. it will lead ppl to die.

yummygd      ( Date: 01-Mar-2013 15:42) Posted:

Ting Hai word of advice its best u cut loss n den exit e stock market totally. People who make statements like that... U be losing more in future. Because u dun understand. In the stock market. U r e one who make e call. N if things go bad. U r e one to be blame. Ur money . Ur call.


 
 
Isolator
    01-Mar-2013 16:10  
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Remember my key word.... " As long as you can hold" ..... Many get panic and impatience because they either contra or use all their saving to buy.... they become very emotional when the price goes against them...... Control your emotion is very important in trading.....hmmmm....
 
 
Emptyhand
    01-Mar-2013 16:07  
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This makes me wonder, Do people confront Brokerage firms when their call on a stock shifts in direction ? 

I doubt so, and even if they did. You guys should know the answer. The'll simply downgrade the particular stock and write a summary for its downgrade or upgrade which is still a game of Probability. 
 
 
gingersp
    01-Mar-2013 16:06  
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anyone have idea when will this correction measures end?
 
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