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ozone2002
    28-Dec-2007 09:49  
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Y IS STI MOVING UP????????????????????

wrong way la dey... should go down la
 
 
huatah
    27-Dec-2007 22:35  
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Great posting paperless... Cheers.
 
 
simck001
    27-Dec-2007 22:25  
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Hopefully. Smiley
 

 
singaporegal
    27-Dec-2007 22:11  
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Volumes still very low. Things will pick up after the festive season. 
 
 
paperless
    27-Dec-2007 20:36  
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Beware the dreaded R word

You don't know whether we're in a recession until months after it starts. But investing successfully requires looking forward, not backward.

By Allan Sloan, senior editor at large


(Fortune Magazine) -- Everyone and his brother seems to be talking about recession these days. It dominates every public investment discussion and is the topic 24/7 on cable TV. But let me tell you a little secret: When it comes to investing, the question of whether we're in a recession (or are heading for one) just doesn't matter.

How in the name of Alan Greenspan, Ben Bernanke and all the other economic saints and seers can I be so dismissive of something that's attracting so much attention? Because while the economy obviously matters a lot, both politically and economically, the "R" word is irrelevant to people who want to know how to place their bets on the markets.

Gather around the campfire, folks, and I'll tell you why.

It's actually elementary. Investing successfully is about looking ahead, while determining whether we're in a recession involves looking behind. Way behind. We won't know that a recession has started until months after it's begun. And by that time, things in the economy may well be getting better rather than worse - which might make it a good time to invest.

Now, exactly what is a recession? Opinions vary. Many people think that a recession is defined as two consecutive quarters in which "real" gross domestic product - GDP adjusted for inflation - declines. If you accept that definition, which I don't, you don't find out that a recession is underway until six months - two calendar quarters - after it has started. (Sorry, too late!) If you use what I consider the proper definition - a declaration by the National Bureau of Economic Research's business cycle dating committee that the economy has peaked - you may have to wait even longer. Nevertheless, I prefer the NBER version because it's the collective opinion of seven savvy people rather than a rote formula.

"We wait long enough so that the existence of a recession is not at all in doubt," Bob Hall, a Stanford business professor who chairs the cycle dating committee, told me in an e-mail. "We concentrate on finding the date of the peak in activity, usually at a time the press [has] lost interest in the question of whether we are in a downturn." Typically, Hall wrote, the committee makes its call six to 18 months after the downturn started - or economic activity peaked, depending on your point of view.

I won't bore you with all the grubby details, which you can find for yourself on nber.org. One thing that will leap out at you is the contrast between economic reality and what many people believe. For example, conventional wisdom is that the devastation wrought on Sept. 11, 2001, sent the U.S. economy into a tailspin. The reality, according to NBER, is that the economy was already in a recession, which had started in March 2001 (or, some committee members now feel, even earlier) and ended in November - two months after 9/11. The committee, however, didn't announce this until July 17, 2003. By then, the popular assumptions about the effects of 9/11 were set in stone.

I'm not naive, and I know that the question of whether there's a recession has enormous political implications for the 2008 elections, which is a major reason so many of my colleagues in the media are obsessed with it. But we're talking about investments here, not politics.

I have no idea if we're in a recession or heading for one. Nor do I know where the market is going over the next few months. If I did, would I tell you for $4.99 ($5.99 Canadian)? What I do know is that if you want to do well in the market, you've got to think ahead, not behind. The "R" word isn't helpful. What you need is the "F" word: foresight.
 
 
Manikamaniko.
    27-Dec-2007 09:38  
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First hour profit-taking? Market sentiment is warming up after a cold X'mas season... Smiley
 

 
traderstudent
    26-Dec-2007 23:55  
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Today was led by retailers. The volume was very light and was similar to xmas' eve but that was when STI only opened for half a day. U can see the chart at my blog @ here.
 
 
paperless
    26-Dec-2007 22:18  
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Crude oil trades above $94 after Turkish military attacks rebels in Iraq.
 
 
tanglinboy
    26-Dec-2007 21:31  
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Volumes recovering. Hopefully the bull will return next year!
 
 
Manikamaniko.
    26-Dec-2007 18:50  
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Very timely good advice from Livermore... Smiley
 

 
Manikamaniko.
    26-Dec-2007 18:49  
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What if it goes up tomorrow on high volume?... Then it would be too late to do a chase... Smiley
 
 
Livermore
    26-Dec-2007 18:48  
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Some of the China stocks have been unfairly beaten down during recent correction. They have rebounded nicely today.

It is important to Stay With Your Winners if you find them instead of selling them too early. On the other hand it is also important to sell your Losers fast even if it means incurring a slightly loss. In that way, you have enough capital to look for potential winners instead of saying "I cannot buy as I am stuck" 
 
 
cashiertan
    26-Dec-2007 18:42  
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i rather trust the volume indication than smartness of retailer
 
 
Manikamaniko.
    26-Dec-2007 17:40  
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Last week all dumped on the rallies... but this time, they may become smarter... Smiley 
 
 
cashiertan
    26-Dec-2007 16:56  
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volume is too low for such a big climb, expect some heavy retracement soon...
 

 
Manikamaniko.
    26-Dec-2007 16:51  
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For instance...If you watch this short video (click),

You may afterwards proclaim that it the truth that some very great and supernatural power, holy ghost, or spirit, or even the big, bad Satan Devil is at work.

It is also likely you may say it is something any primary school girl can learn to do from a magician, which is the truth. So the truth really depends on your knowledge and detached honesty.
 
 
simck001
    26-Dec-2007 16:45  
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Let's see, is the following true or untrue?

The share market is one in which the buyers and sellers do transactions in the belief that they earn money.

 
 
 
Manikamaniko.
    26-Dec-2007 16:38  
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But why should truth be 'untruth' to another? On what measure is such 'untruth' based?

To be truth, something must pass the test of objective rational logic, everything else is unacceptable to be called truth.

One should really not complicated things by introducing dubious elements to the 'augment' truth... Smiley
 
 
lausk22
    26-Dec-2007 16:16  
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Mr Mani,

But what is truth to one can be untruth to another.....Smiley
 
 
Manikamaniko.
    26-Dec-2007 15:53  
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The truth (ie. reality through objectivity) is absolute... Smiley
 
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