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eplepl
    19-Apr-2011 11:49  
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if your brother has many rooms to spare !

either sell and wait the property market to crash..... or get a rental income like maybe 3 K is possible

give your brother 1K every month..... I am sure both of you will be very happy......

or maybe  gaecia interest take you in for free ?  ha ha...u can buy breakfast everyday !

BullishTempo      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 09:33) Posted:



Hey epl you were right. I called up my agent last night and she told me bishan 5-room flat can fetch 650k.

Woohoo ! 

eplepl      ( Date: 18-Apr-2011 18:17) Posted:



how semb marine looking right now....

 


 
 
eastcivic
    19-Apr-2011 11:35  
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bought at 5.88..... still have not decided if i'm keeping or selling.....

31c dividend is very tempting..... i don't think there will be much selling on 25th April.

anyway, will have to call ig market first before i decide on anything Smiley

eplepl      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 11:28) Posted:



u selling or keeping it ?

 

what price did u buy it @ ?

eastcivic      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:10) Posted:



thanks for informing me! Smiley

congrats on your profits! Smiley


 
 
eplepl
    19-Apr-2011 11:28  
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u selling or keeping it ?

 

what price did u buy it @ ?

eastcivic      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:10) Posted:



thanks for informing me! Smiley

congrats on your profits! Smiley

Gaecia      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:02) Posted:



ec, i closed my s-marine position already 5.84....because market quite stormy & don't want to get caught.

at the moment i'm confused partly due to ocbc's behavior today on ex-date its shedding more than dividend issued.


 

 
Gaecia
    19-Apr-2011 11:19  
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That is  correct.  I'm abit  simple-minded so  i find it quite a chore  (with so much more  thinking & work  to do!)  in order to collect that  special dividend.

On  hedging, the execution on entry & timing need to get it  right  to avoid losing money.  The execution part to  trade 4 ways (to close the long & short positions) is something  that i'm not confident  of so i would  rather not play. Unless  with headwinds ie.  keppelcorp announced stellar results  & with news of sembmarine  awarded contract that will help to reduce risks by a good measure & worth the attempt.

artng25      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:59) Posted:

DMA might have more flexibility. Many landmines in the market now. CD here, CD there, CD everywhere, ME, Japan, Europe, US,  .......  many of the problems they didn't have in '08... Gotta tread carefully, don't step on one

eastcivic      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:51) Posted:

ya...... i'll call my IG market to confirm before i make any decision. thanks! Smiley


 
 
artng25
    19-Apr-2011 11:09  
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Any rare gem to suggest ??? I 'll understand its still a bet

BullishTempo      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:16) Posted:



Taking the leads from dow, japan, hk and shanghai no doubt. All are down.

If you look at STI from January till now, it still looks like a bearish trend, and at best a sideways trend if we manage to go back up to 3300.

I am expecting significant movement for STI only towards 4th quarter.

The only way to play this market now is to spot specific stocks which may give earnings surprises. Like what happened to GenSp in August 2010.

You only need one such rare gem every year. 

Gaecia      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:02) Posted:



ec, i closed my s-marine position already 5.84....because market quite stormy & don't want to get caught.

at the moment i'm confused partly due to ocbc's behavior today on ex-date its shedding more than dividend issued.


 
 
artng25
    19-Apr-2011 10:59  
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DMA might have more flexibility. Many landmines in the market now. CD here, CD there, CD everywhere, ME, Japan, Europe, US,  .......  many of the problems they didn't have in '08... Gotta tread carefully, don't step on one

eastcivic      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:51) Posted:

ya...... i'll call my IG market to confirm before i make any decision. thanks! Smiley

artng25      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:42) Posted:

Bear in mind CFD's may have different  'operating hours' from the norm...


 

 
eastcivic
    19-Apr-2011 10:51  
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ya...... i'll call my IG market to confirm before i make any decision. thanks! Smiley

artng25      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:42) Posted:

Bear in mind CFD's may have different  'operating hours' from the norm...

eastcivic      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:32) Posted:

ya shorting on XD may be too late..... but paying 31c dividend if i short on CD is abit too much..... shorting on opening during XD is a bet that during the day, price will go down further......


 
 
artng25
    19-Apr-2011 10:42  
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Bear in mind CFD's may have different  'operating hours' from the norm...

eastcivic      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:32) Posted:

ya shorting on XD may be too late..... but paying 31c dividend if i short on CD is abit too much..... shorting on opening during XD is a bet that during the day, price will go down further......

artng25      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:28) Posted:



The div does give us some buffer  but still not gonna fall in love with the amount. Guess shorting it on XD may be a 'wee bit late' Shorting on XD does not incur div  penalty so says my brokerage but as iPunter always says,'its a bet'.....

We may have different methods as our situation is definitely different... but whatever works. Thanks for sharin


 
 
eastcivic
    19-Apr-2011 10:42  
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thanks! hopefully s-marine will chiong Smiley

Gaecia      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:37) Posted:



sembmarine  is quite stable still.

A piece of information for you guys. Keppelcorp is reporting Q1 tmr after market closes, if results are  good  that will be a catalyst  to lift s-marine going into thurs & mon, last 2 days  before ex date.

eastcivic      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:32) Posted:

ya shorting on XD may be too late..... but paying 31c dividend if i short on CD is abit too much..... shorting on opening during XD is a bet that during the day, price will go down further......


 
 
icetomato
    19-Apr-2011 10:39  
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anyone looking at SAR? wonder where is the bottom...
 

 
Gaecia
    19-Apr-2011 10:37  
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sembmarine  is quite stable still.

A piece of information for you guys. Keppelcorp is reporting Q1 tmr after market closes, if results are  good  that will be a catalyst  to lift s-marine going into thurs & mon, last 2 days  before ex date.

eastcivic      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:32) Posted:

ya shorting on XD may be too late..... but paying 31c dividend if i short on CD is abit too much..... shorting on opening during XD is a bet that during the day, price will go down further......

artng25      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:28) Posted:



The div does give us some buffer  but still not gonna fall in love with the amount. Guess shorting it on XD may be a 'wee bit late' Shorting on XD does not incur div  penalty so says my brokerage but as iPunter always says,'its a bet'.....

We may have different methods as our situation is definitely different... but whatever works. Thanks for sharin


 
 
eastcivic
    19-Apr-2011 10:32  
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ya shorting on XD may be too late..... but paying 31c dividend if i short on CD is abit too much..... shorting on opening during XD is a bet that during the day, price will go down further......

artng25      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:28) Posted:



The div does give us some buffer  but still not gonna fall in love with the amount. Guess shorting it on XD may be a 'wee bit late' Shorting on XD does not incur div  penalty so says my brokerage but as iPunter always says,'its a bet'.....

We may have different methods as our situation is definitely different... but whatever works. Thanks for sharing

eastcivic      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:19) Posted:

i was thinking of holding it for the dividends. as for the hedging, i was thinking of shorting it on 26th April(XD)...... if i'm not wrong, shorting on XD does not require me to pay the dividend


 
 
Gaecia
    19-Apr-2011 10:31  
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wah this i really  can't  advise you cos  this is my  first yr into dividend season on sgx. My brokerage told me sometimes it may drop more than dividend amt on expiry date, depending on market conditions.

Can you check with your teacher/ sifu who coached you on TA?

 

eastcivic      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:21) Posted:

gaeica, what do you think of this strategy?

eastcivic      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:19) Posted:

i was thinking of holding it for the dividends. as for the hedging, i was thinking of shorting it on 26th April(XD)...... if i'm not wrong, shorting on XD does not require me to pay the dividend


 
 
artng25
    19-Apr-2011 10:28  
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The div does give us some buffer  but still not gonna fall in love with the amount. Guess shorting it on XD may be a 'wee bit late' Shorting on XD does not incur div  penalty so says my brokerage but as iPunter always says,'its a bet'.....

We may have different methods as our situation is definitely different... but whatever works. Thanks for sharing

eastcivic      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:19) Posted:

i was thinking of holding it for the dividends. as for the hedging, i was thinking of shorting it on 26th April(XD)...... if i'm not wrong, shorting on XD does not require me to pay the dividend.

artng25      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:16) Posted:



Cash. thinking of hedging in general as I have other exposures as well, probably looking at something straight forward e.g. the index... unless someone here can suggest otherwise.

Not gonna fall in love with S51 and still prepared to do the needfull when the situation calls fo


 
 
eastcivic
    19-Apr-2011 10:21  
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gaeica, what do you think of this strategy?

eastcivic      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:19) Posted:

i was thinking of holding it for the dividends. as for the hedging, i was thinking of shorting it on 26th April(XD)...... if i'm not wrong, shorting on XD does not require me to pay the dividend.

artng25      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:16) Posted:



Cash. thinking of hedging in general as I have other exposures as well, probably looking at something straight forward e.g. the index... unless someone here can suggest otherwise.

Not gonna fall in love with S51 and still prepared to do the needfull when the situation calls fo


 

 
eastcivic
    19-Apr-2011 10:19  
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i was thinking of holding it for the dividends. as for the hedging, i was thinking of shorting it on 26th April(XD)...... if i'm not wrong, shorting on XD does not require me to pay the dividend.

artng25      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:16) Posted:



Cash. thinking of hedging in general as I have other exposures as well, probably looking at something straight forward e.g. the index... unless someone here can suggest otherwise.

Not gonna fall in love with S51 and still prepared to do the needfull when the situation calls for

eastcivic      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:12) Posted:



OMG!

i was thinking the same strategy.  Smiley 

you bought using cash or cfd? do you mind  you  and i  discuss about the hedging? Smiley

 


 
 
icetomato
    19-Apr-2011 10:18  
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Not yet covered...

Hmm.. HSI down to -300+ already...

rotijai      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 09:18) Posted:

sifu tomato... are u covering?

icetomato      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 08:36) Posted:



O_O i'm not sifu....

yup I'm using poems..


 
 
artng25
    19-Apr-2011 10:16  
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Cash. thinking of hedging in general as I have other exposures as well, probably looking at something straight forward e.g. the index... unless someone here can suggest otherwise.

Not gonna fall in love with S51 and still prepared to do the needfull when the situation calls for

eastcivic      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:12) Posted:



OMG!

i was thinking the same strategy.  Smiley 

you bought using cash or cfd? do you mind  you  and i  discuss about the hedging? Smiley

 

artng25      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:10) Posted:

Still holding mine, may consider some form of 'hedging' instead... let's see how things unfol


 
 
BullishTempo
    19-Apr-2011 10:16  
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Taking the leads from dow, japan, hk and shanghai no doubt. All are down.

If you look at STI from January till now, it still looks like a bearish trend, and at best a sideways trend if we manage to go back up to 3300.

I am expecting significant movement for STI only towards 4th quarter.

The only way to play this market now is to spot specific stocks which may give earnings surprises. Like what happened to GenSp in August 2010.

You only need one such rare gem every year. 

Gaecia      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:02) Posted:



ec, i closed my s-marine position already 5.84....because market quite stormy & don't want to get caught.

at the moment i'm confused partly due to ocbc's behavior today on ex-date its shedding more than dividend issued.

 
 
eastcivic
    19-Apr-2011 10:12  
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OMG!

i was thinking the same strategy.  Smiley 

you bought using cash or cfd? do you mind  you  and i  discuss about the hedging? Smiley

 

artng25      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:10) Posted:

Still holding mine, may consider some form of 'hedging' instead... let's see how things unfold

Gaecia      ( Date: 19-Apr-2011 10:02) Posted:



ec, i closed my s-marine position already 5.84....because market quite stormy & don't want to get caught.

at the moment i'm confused partly due to ocbc's behavior today on ex-date its shedding more than dividend issued.


 
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