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soloman
    14-Jun-2008 13:37  
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Of course some property developers try to say mid and loss end homes holding well

Developers of course try to protect market

Wait for 1-2 years more and we will see whole mkt plunge like other property consultants say

Many are not buying because of the plain fact that lifetime also cannot pay off

So those who buy gamble by renting rent out
 
 
teeth53
    14-Jun-2008 12:05  
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From tteth53: Buyers note: amid good news.....Beware

Prices of some new properties coming down. Move may signal end of months-long stand-off between buyers and sellers
By Fiona Chan, Property Reporter
Published: June 12 2008, (The Straits Times)

 
 
teeth53
    14-Jun-2008 11:53  
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Confirmation. Mtk set to cool isit..?. Change this China property market set to cool (Beijing) to this Singapore property market set to cool. (S'pore).

 

 



teeth53      ( Date: 24-Feb-2008 10:40) Posted:



Yet again news on Sunday Feb 24, 2008...source from asiaone.com
Speculators paying the price of market cooldown as offers slow to a trickle. -ST
» HDB resale flats for less than $200K
Just sharing my tot. buy, sell or hold on to any properties. This year and next year as well. Speculators going for the qiuck kill can get ieself hurt
13-Feb-2008 20:17 Others   /   The Rising Risk of Systemic Financial Meltdown
  Painting a nice picture, S'pore will weather the storm, it does not effect the rich, so we will succeed in matter of fact. Most of the poor will be poorer due to d un-solve widering income gap. A few more millionaire will be made and economic report will again paint a rosy picture. Risk is get risker and only way to get rich is gamble. It is not going to get better, going to go turn ugly further down d road.

To the wise, spare a thought and save some for rainy day.

S'pore depending on India, China, EU (Gee...) and also alot on US to take in our factory products...rite. One down, not out, two to go.....

Oh!! about M'sia coming election. U know, i know Y...M'sia is looking for a new mandate to gov.

 

 
teeth53
    14-Jun-2008 11:41  
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Capland CEO. Mr Liew said low-end homes prices expected to stay stable. Last mth Capland reiterated its target to launching 800-1000 units this year. (isit B''cos Capland is launching??, so mtk is stable)

Developers face by credit squeeze, falling sales and lower prices, (In S''pore) Developers are getting ready to release mass- to mid-market condos, encouraged by the response to modestly-priced developments recently.

Industry sources say demands exists, but only at low-end against backdrop of a much quieter property mkt. While high-end projects, shot up to unrealistic levels during the property boom last year.

Analysts say mkt turned silent, led some project that home prices will fall by as much as 40% over d next 2 years.

My tot is left wondering who i am to listen, read or believe in........???~?~bluur, bluur liao.
 
 
teeth53
    14-Jun-2008 10:57  
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Just FYI (more info)

Prime condo prices heading for long, gentle decline
(SINGAPORE) The prices of condos and private apartments in the Core Central Region will inch downwards and are unlikely to touch their recent peaks for almost the next four years, a model developed by Cushman & Wakefield shows. Any rebound is likely in 2012.
(Business Times- sources)
 
 
teeth53
    14-Jun-2008 10:51  
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Just sharing my tot.....Look like low-end and mid-end property market is not going any where Up or down..?. Buy is waiting in to buy lw, low, while seller is waiting to sell high,high, with the lowering of selling prices. it is obvious that waiting out to ride over property market is wearing thin for developers as high-end market is lossing it steam. This 2nd half year is very pesitmistic, those wishes to sell, dun waiting further, those waiting to buy seem more optimistic as more develop offer at lower prices.
 

 
teeth53
    14-Jun-2008 10:02  
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China property market set to cool (Beijing)
Developers face credit squeeze, falling sales and lower prices. In Beijing, (Thurs) Capland chief Mr liew said in an interview (Bloomberg source), S'pore low-end homes prices is holding up.

(SINGAPORE) Developers are getting ready to release mass- to mid-market condos, encouraged by the response to modestly-priced developments recently.

Vietnam. Keppel Land, CapitaLand, Guocoland, Fraser & Neave, Allgreen and Chip Eng Seng are six developers with residential projects in Vietnam, said BNP Paribas, and Keppel Land has the largest exposure with about US$7 billion of project value.

Here last Friday traded prices in STI. (Jusy FYI) Play of the week..Kepland shares falter on weak property market, has falling 13ct, or 4.66% this week and off 29.3% this year.

UOL -- -- 3.640 3.570 -0.100 -2.7 1,646,000 53,000 3.570 3.590 11,000 3.680 3.560


Capitaland -- -- 5.800 5.800 -0.050 -0.9 8,957,000 315,000 5.800 5.810 10,000 5.880 5.760
 
KepLand -- -- 5.160 5.120 -0.040 -0.8 1,942,000 8,000 5.110 5.120 28,000 5.230 5.080
CITYDEV -- -- 10.520 10.420 -0.180 -1.7 1,941,000 1,000 10.420 10.480 5,000 10.640 10.400
CapitaMall -- -- 3.070 3.030 -0.070 -2.3 2,638,000 466,000 3.030 3.050 10,000 3.130 3.030
 
 
teeth53
    12-Jun-2008 08:59  
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CDL, is the big developer for Shelford Suites has also beginnig to start previewing for its 77 units, has delay for month before deciding to lower it slaes price. while Dakota Residence is develop by Ho bee Investment and NTUC Choice home.
 
 
teeth53
    12-Jun-2008 08:53  
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Straits Times Money Page headline (back page) June 12,2008 - Thurs.

Prices of some new properties coming down. Move may signal of months-long stand-off between buyers and sellers.

Shelford Suites (near Shelford rd??) Sold in March for $1,869 psf = $1,905 psf. Current price: $1,600/-

Dakata Residences. planned price $1,000 psf - $1,100 psf. Current price: $950 psf.

"Developers will have to continue to reduce prices if ihey want to maintain sales, as many projects are still out of the reach of owner-occupiers.

Teeth53
 
 
teeth53
    11-Jun-2008 23:57  
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This one oil crisis.???. Obama Vs Mccain...must be able to sit down and talk to Iran.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/09/news/economy/candidates_energy/index.htm



teeth53      ( Date: 11-Jun-2008 23:49) Posted:



This one will slowly but surely slow world economic...into recession, unless Ben Benanke do something about it...The FED chief. and Sing $ is growing stronger each day, should be able to weather d storm.

Oil spikes, stocks slide

Wall Street slumps as oil and gas prices rise, dollar falls and bond prices jump

  • Stocks slump as crude surges
  • Oil up on inventory drop | $250 oil? Not likely
  • 'Future of oil' in focus in Congress | Watch live

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    teeth53
        11-Jun-2008 23:49  
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    This one will slowly but surely slow world economic...into recession, unless Ben Benanke do something about it...The FED chief. and Sing $ is growing stronger each day, should be able to weather d storm.

    Oil spikes, stocks slide

    Wall Street slumps as oil and gas prices rise, dollar falls and bond prices jump

  • Stocks slump as crude surges
  • Oil up on inventory drop | $250 oil? Not likely
  • 'Future of oil' in focus in Congress | Watch live
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    teeth53
        11-Jun-2008 23:29  
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    1st..is US Sub-prime credit crunch, the CDO...many banks (established bankers) lost alot $$$...needed LKY/GIC and Temasek's, then come credit squeeze and now local banks increases in rate by one(1)% to 3.98%, die lah, (oil..?), many can still buy new car and bigger car, S'pore is a rich playground for the rich, within 7 hours of flying times.
     
     
    lookcc
        11-Jun-2008 23:22  
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    or by crude oil  n  commodities' prices???
     
     
    teeth53
        11-Jun-2008 23:17  
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    Isit truth property market be hit badly by stock decline?,  as bank started to be more care in lending $$$ with a one (1)%  rate increases, this may even pull down or halted some buyers to be more wary, certainly look that way, down B4 going up.

    teeth53      ( Date: 10-Jun-2008 09:37) Posted:



    Just FYI: No more cheap mortgages as banks raise rates bt 1% to 3.98% amid a slowing property market and uncertain economic outlook. banks are facing "ïncreased credit risks on housing loans" and another news indicated of weak properties sales ahead.

    Stalemate over prices leads to lowest auction sales in 10 years  on dismay slaes of oni 31 properties were sold (auction off) compare to last year of 108 properties sold for the same period.

     
     
    lookcc
        10-Jun-2008 22:56  
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    dun think so....dow, hsi , nikkei n others cud.
     

     
    winsontkl
        10-Jun-2008 22:08  
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    Weakness abound.....will property sector drag STI down to test 2800 soon??? 

    Along with financial, property will serve as double whammy....
     
     
    teeth53
        10-Jun-2008 09:37  
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    Just FYI: No more cheap mortgages as banks raise rates bt 1% to 3.98% amid a slowing property market and uncertain economic outlook. banks are facing "ïncreased credit risks on housing loans" and another news indicated of weak properties sales ahead.

    Stalemate over prices leads to lowest auction sales in 10 years  on dismay slaes of oni 31 properties were sold (auction off) compare to last year of 108 properties sold for the same period.
     
     
    teeth53
        04-Jun-2008 13:34  
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    Straits Times News..page 3- prime, today (Wed) June 4, 2008.

    The Incredible Shrinking Condo (I m living in HDB flat anyway), as construction cost kept going up, a tiny studio under construction near Farrer Park may well be the smallest private apartment built in S'pore (13units). The units - part of Kent Residence in Kent Road, space size 312 sq ft, the size of half of squash court is target at young single and property investors..anyone interested?. (Just FYI)

    Thk to property boom at the high in 1996,Unit build is getting smaller n smaller and price getting higher n higher, today most are built by boutique developers n have under 100 units, selling for $1,000 to $1,600 psf



    teeth53      ( Date: 04-Jun-2008 09:23) Posted:



    Straits Times News...Headline back page today (Wed) June 4, 2008.

    Developers turn landlords as property market stays (Remain) quiet. Win-win deal Developers with projects held back, frim lease out units bought in collective sales. If developers were to launch their projects now. it may be difficult for them to reach their target selling sales price.

     
     
    teeth53
        04-Jun-2008 09:23  
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    Straits Times News...Headline back page today (Wed) June 4, 2008.

    Developers turn landlords as property market stays (Remain) quiet. Win-win deal Developers with projects held back, frim lease out units bought in collective sales. If developers were to launch their projects now. it may be difficult for them to reach their target selling sales price.
     
     
    jm2212
        01-Jun-2008 12:18  
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    the property may have come down from the peak, but still sustainable at this point as the rental yield is still good, especially those in the central areas. talked to few agents and they shared the same opinion, the resale market is quiet bcos there is price gap between buyer and seller, that probably shows that buyers still have some holding power, let's wait and see for the next few months, stock market will be playing a crucial role as well.
     
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