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I will buy when it is 0.02 or 0.025

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Should be seeing 0.90

richtan ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 14:30) Posted:

"Trade Summary" at this point in time still shows more buying-up, but of course, nothing is guaranteed, may change, so dyodd n BOSAYOR:

5GJ (AusGroup)

WEIGHTED AVG PRICE : 0.7212 LAST DONE PRICE : 0.725

SPREAD/PRICE RATIO : 0.0000 AVG TRADE SIZE : 44.303

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Last Trades Vol BuyVol Mid SellVol

0.710 1 67 67 0 0

0.715 28 651 381 0 270

0.720 87 3,587 1,624 0 1,963

0.725 34 2,404 420 387 1,597

0.730 2 25 0 0 25

TOTAL 152 6,734 2,492 387 3,855

richtan ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 10:17) Posted:

"Trade Summary" at this point in time shows more buying-up, but of course, nothing is
guaranteed, may change, so dyodd n BOSAYOR:

5GJ (AusGroup)

WEIGHTED AVG PRICE : 0.7197	LAST DONE PRICE : 0.725
SPREAD/PRICE RATIO : 0.0069	AVG TRADE SIZE : 31.987

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Last	Trades	Vol	BuyVol	Mid	SellVol
0.710	1	67	67	0	0
0.715	12	327	57	0	270
0.720	63	1,776	855	0	921
0.725	2	325	0	0	325
TOTAL	78	2,495	979	0	1,516

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ahh your getting there :) Thats why previously there's a war in Genting :)The bigger funds will always win.

Anyway TP Genting: $1.6 - 2.0 mark my words 6 months from 10 Sept.

keepnosecrets ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 14:07) Posted:

Hi Risktaker, these activities actually sucks the market of its funds (money), mostly belonging to the smallplayers. I agree with you that it is not easy to prove that they are wrong doing because so long as the trades are not considered wash trades (meaning same account both buyer and seller at same price), the watchdog cannot bark at the people involved who are engaged in this kind of sucking money from the investors. However, because this kind of strategies can meet with disaster when there is another stronger team also at play in the same counter. Like you want to push down because you are nett short, I want to push up because my side is nett long, and if I am stronger, I can whack you and your team and eventually your house will suffer big losses. Eventually your company stockholders suffers as much as the players of shares.

One of the reasons why some banks failed is these kind of manipulation because when they are net short, they dump all their nominee shares held with them in order to win and should things turn against them, eg, announcement and news, then they will face the same fate as lehman, and ML and BSterns and Barings and many others. Watchdog should have the IQ to understand all these.

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this is just a very simple example. It is more complicated when more BB are involved. Some of the techniques they deployed are used to counter TA. But TA is perfect for entry & Exit point though. (over brought and over sell cannot be fake la)

niuyear ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 12:40) Posted:

Do share more, you are donig a good deed and its also good for your next generation.

Cheaters usually will be punished in someways or others, may be , got their hands chopped off, legs cut off., or they cant have children or become insane or etc...............hahaha!

risktaker ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 12:27) Posted:

I share with you guys 1 time only ok :) PT = Proprietary trader are firm's traders which they actively trade stocks using house money (Sharing profit & lost with the firm) are the Real Big Boys behind all the movement of stocks. ( You seen prices of share @ opening & closing @ many times higher than the actual stock price ? These are the work of PT )

BB = including big time remisiers, Margin Players, Syndicates, and big Private retail gamblers. Ok give you 1 simple case study. ABC is PT trader in X1 firm. AAA is PT trader in X2 firm.

They are both friends working in different company but they will someone meet up after work to discuss the plan for tomorrow :)

Code sign to sell, buy, hold, Shorting and the list of target stocks for tomorrow game plan. I cannot go into further details of that hope you understand.

Anyway one of them will be Shorter and 1 of the buyer.

0830 - 08:59 Pre - Trading. By this time they already know which stocks to enter.

Usually when the market sentiments are bad. The Short account will start shorting. They usually will create a strong selling presence in the stock they targeted. In this case ABC is shorter. ABC decided to throw a huge road block of 2000 lots on the sell queue. There comes the selling pressure when he off loaded huge amount of stocks like 1000 - 2000 to buy account.

Letting the share price falls other weaker holders (Contra players) will started to sell where the AAA account will buy up more shares at lower price. Thus averaging down its holder share price.

Once AAA account has hold enough amount of shares. The Short account will started to cover its position therefore pushing up the price. It will eat up fast covering most of its short at a lower price so ABC can make a profit. (Sell high buy Low)

AAA will make a profit because he is selling its shares at a higher price as ABC is covering its short position.(Buy Low Sell High)

At least 10-15% of the volume will be sold to retail players as they chase the price. Soon after the share didnt move :)

Many will wonder why .... so much volume leh but it falls or didnt move at all. Because you are the last man holding the ball ; all shares have been covered and BB already exit. Usually all these trades are done Intraday - All done in 1 day.

This is just 1 small simple example. Trading has much more tricks than this. Good luck. I might reveal more .... maybe

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9:05am Person ABC Throw 20000 lots in Sell queue on Genting @ $1.12

9:05am Person AAA Queue 12000 lots in buy Queue on Genting @ $1.11

9:06am Person ABC will Short Sell 10000 thousand lots in a few transaction and Person AAA will withdraw its queue immediately.

9:06am Genting Price Buy $1.10 - Sell $1.11 @ Person ABC Throw 20000 lots in Sell queue.

9:06am Where ABC already queue 10000 lots @ buy. Person AAA will start selling down the 10000 lots @ buy queue. at this time the market will be panic weak holders will join in selling and other smaller BB will join in.

The buy account will support the price till $1.04 - 1.07. It will start accumulate shares @ this level. Around $1.05 mostly. Bringing down its average share price to around $1.06

Soon The covering of shorts will start @ 1.06 - $ 1.09 where both of them will both earn an average of 2 cents for 40000 - 60000 lots each. looking at 6 digit profit.

It could cont next day if BB still have stocks in its hand to off load.

This is a scenario where there is only 2 BB involved but it is not the case in actual trading more BBs are involved and more complications in the trade.

Against the law or not. Well .... no comment. But without these people your stocks can stuck there forever as normal players will never able to push the price up.

keepnosecrets ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 12:54) Posted:

Thks, Risktaker for elaborating on this. Surface wise it is just some strategies, but it is obviously against our laws to have this kind of activites, I supposed.

risktaker ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 11:55) Posted:

I share with you guys 1 time only ok :) PT = Proprietary trader are firm's traders which they actively trade stocks using house money (Sharing profit & lost with the firm) are the Real Big Boys behind all the movement of stocks. ( You seen prices of share @ opening & closing @ many times higher than the actual stock price ? These are the work of PT )

BB = including big time remisiers, Margin Players, Syndicates, and big Private retail gamblers. Ok give you 1 simple case study. ABC is PT trader in X1 firm. AAA is PT trader in X2 firm.

They are both friends working in different company but they will someone meet up after work to discuss the plan for tomorrow :)

Code sign to sell, buy, hold, Shorting and the list of target stocks for tomorrow game plan. I cannot go into further details of that hope you understand.

Anyway one of them will be Shorter and 1 of the buyer.

0830 - 08:59 Pre - Trading. By this time they already know which stocks to enter.

Usually when the market sentiments are bad. The Short account will start shorting. They usually will create a strong selling presence in the stock they targeted. In this case ABC is shorter. ABC decided to throw a huge road block of 2000 lots on the sell queue. There comes the selling pressure when he off loaded huge amount of stocks like 1000 - 2000 to buy account.

Letting the share price falls other weaker holders (Contra players) will started to sell where the AAA account will buy up more shares at lower price. Thus averaging down its holder share price.

Once AAA account has hold enough amount of shares. The Short account will started to cover its position therefore pushing up the price. It will eat up fast covering most of its short at a lower price so ABC can make a profit. (Sell high buy Low)

AAA will make a profit because he is selling its shares at a higher price as ABC is covering its short position.(Buy Low Sell High)

At least 10-15% of the volume will be sold to retail players as they chase the price. Soon after the share didnt move :)

Many will wonder why .... so much volume leh but it falls or didnt move at all. Because you are the last man holding the ball ; all shares have been covered and BB already exit. Usually all these trades are done Intraday - All done in 1 day.

This is just 1 small simple example. Trading has much more tricks than this. Good luck. I might reveal more .... maybe

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I share with you guys 1 time only ok :) PT = Proprietary trader are firm's traders which they actively trade stocks using house money (Sharing profit & lost with the firm) are the Real Big Boys behind all the movement of stocks. ( You seen prices of share @ opening & closing @ many times higher than the actual stock price ? These are the work of PT )

BB = including big time remisiers, Margin Players, Syndicates, and big Private retail gamblers. Ok give you 1 simple case study. ABC is PT trader in X1 firm. AAA is PT trader in X2 firm.

They are both friends working in different company but they will someone meet up after work to discuss the plan for tomorrow :)

Code sign to sell, buy, hold, Shorting and the list of target stocks for tomorrow game plan. I cannot go into further details of that hope you understand.

Anyway one of them will be Shorter and 1 of the buyer.

0830 - 08:59 Pre - Trading. By this time they already know which stocks to enter.

Usually when the market sentiments are bad. The Short account will start shorting. They usually will create a strong selling presence in the stock they targeted. In this case ABC is shorter. ABC decided to throw a huge road block of 2000 lots on the sell queue. There comes the selling pressure when he off loaded huge amount of stocks like 1000 - 2000 to buy account.

Letting the share price falls other weaker holders (Contra players) will started to sell where the AAA account will buy up more shares at lower price. Thus averaging down its holder share price.

Once AAA account has hold enough amount of shares. The Short account will started to cover its position therefore pushing up the price. It will eat up fast covering most of its short at a lower price so ABC can make a profit. (Sell high buy Low)

AAA will make a profit because he is selling its shares at a higher price as ABC is covering its short position.(Buy Low Sell High)

At least 10-15% of the volume will be sold to retail players as they chase the price. Soon after the share didnt move :)

Many will wonder why .... so much volume leh but it falls or didnt move at all. Because you are the last man holding the ball ; all shares have been covered and BB already exit. Usually all these trades are done Intraday - All done in 1 day.

This is just 1 small simple example. Trading has much more tricks than this. Good luck. I might reveal more .... maybe

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meant to say below. Will not go below $1.00

risktaker ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 12:24) Posted:

XR is $1.00 will not go beyond that :) BTW DJ went up this morning, damn good guess haha.

dealer0168 ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 12:18) Posted:

This value should be after XR. And after the nil-paid right duration. I thk now not possible.

No one will pay for this value now.

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XR is $1.00 will not go beyond that :) BTW DJ went up this morning, damn good guess haha.

dealer0168 ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 12:18) Posted:

This value should be after XR. And after the nil-paid right duration. I thk now not possible.

No one will pay for this value now.

risktaker ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 12:15) Posted:

I support Genting all the way.

HUAT ah :) 8888

TP: $1.60 - 2.0

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I support Genting all the way.

HUAT ah :) 8888

TP: $1.60 - 2.0

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I share with you guys 1 time only ok :) PT = Proprietary trader are firm's traders which they actively trade stocks using house money (Sharing profit & lost with the firm) are the Real Big Boys behind all the movement of stocks. ( You seen prices of share @ opening & closing @ many times higher than the actual stock price ? These are the work of PT )

BB = including big time remisiers, Margin Players, Syndicates, and big Private retail gamblers. Ok give you 1 simple case study. ABC is PT trader in X1 firm. AAA is PT trader in X2 firm.

They are both friends working in different company but they will someone meet up after work to discuss the plan for tomorrow :)

Code sign to sell, buy, hold, Shorting and the list of target stocks for tomorrow game plan. I cannot go into further details of that hope you understand.

Anyway one of them will be Shorter and 1 of the buyer.

0830 - 08:59 Pre - Trading. By this time they already know which stocks to enter.

Usually when the market sentiments are bad. The Short account will start shorting. They usually will create a strong selling presence in the stock they targeted. In this case ABC is shorter. ABC decided to throw a huge road block of 2000 lots on the sell queue. There comes the selling pressure when he off loaded huge amount of stocks like 1000 - 2000 to buy account.

Letting the share price falls other weaker holders (Contra players) will started to sell where the AAA account will buy up more shares at lower price. Thus averaging down its holder share price.

Once AAA account has hold enough amount of shares. The Short account will started to cover its position therefore pushing up the price. It will eat up fast covering most of its short at a lower price so ABC can make a profit. (Sell high buy Low)

AAA will make a profit because he is selling its shares at a higher price as ABC is covering its short position.(Buy Low Sell High)

At least 10-15% of the volume will be sold to retail players as they chase the price. Soon after the share didnt move :)

Many will wonder why .... so much volume leh but it falls or didnt move at all. Because you are the last man holding the ball ; all shares have been covered and BB already exit. Usually all these trades are done Intraday - All done in 1 day.

This is just 1 small simple example. Trading has much more tricks than this. Good luck. I might reveal more .... maybe

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I share with you guys 1 time only ok :) PT = Proprietary trader are firm's traders which they actively trade stocks using house money (Sharing profit & lost with the firm) are the Real Big Boys behind all the movement of stocks. ( You seen prices of share @ opening & closing @ many times higher than the actual stock price ? These are the work of PT ) BB = including big time remisiers, Margin Players, Syndicates, and big Private retail gamblers. Ok give you 1 simple case study. ABC is PT trader in X1 firm. AAA is PT trader in X2 firm. They are both friends working in different company but they will someone meet up after work to discuss the plan for tomorrow :) Code sign to sell, buy, hold, Shorting and the list of target stocks for tomorrow game plan. I cannot go into further details of that hope you understand. Anyway one of them will be Shorter and 1 of the buyer. 0830 - 08:59 Pre - Trading. By this time they already know which stocks to enter. Usually when the market sentiments are bad. The Short account will start shorting. They usually will create a strong selling presence in the stock they targeted. In this case ABC is shorter. ABC decided to throw a huge road block of 2000 lots on the sell queue. There comes the selling pressure when he off loaded huge amount of stocks like 1000 - 2000 to buy account. Letting the share price falls other weaker holders (Contra players) will started to sell where the AAA account will buy up more shares at lower price. Thus averaging down its holder share price. Once AAA account has hold enough amount of shares. The Short account will started to cover its position therefore pushing up the price. It will eat up fast covering most of its short at a lower price so ABC can make a profit. AAA will make a profit because he is selling its shares at a higher price as ABC is covering its short position. At least 10-15% of the volume will be sold to retail players as they chase the price. Soon after the share didnt move :) Many will wonder why .... so much volume leh but it falls or didnt move at all. Because you are the last man holding the ball ; all shares have been covered and BB already exit. Usually all these trades are done Intraday - All done in 1 day. This is just 1 small simple example. Trading has much more tricks than this. Good luck. I might reveal more .... maybe

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talk too much already. This kind of technique usually done by few PT. Please do not post this kind of stuff on this forum. Thanx

keepnosecrets ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 10:02) Posted:

But I don't know whether this is legal or not.

keepnosecrets ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 09:55) Posted:

It is possible to team up, but we need brokers who can give us some discount as trading will heavy

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if i were u i wont enter abterra atm. Newbies please stay clear of this stock.

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provided this is like every other counter :) But is this like every other counter ?

keepnosecrets ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 08:28) Posted:

The share will not spike until and only after the rights are over. This can be seen from experience of other right counters. Maybe right or wrong, just for "jabbing" the thoughts (minds).

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because the BB haven't exited yet :) "Still selling its share"

swkho80 ( Date: 14-Sep-2009 16:19) Posted:

what drives this up when index is strugling ?

any hidden good news to share ?

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Lets see today :) Almost time liao

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relax my friend :)

Peg_li ( Date: 14-Sep-2009 23:05) Posted:

This baby fooled the shareholders a few times!

Two times right issue. one time selling at 0.715.

it is still worthy to keep?

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today will be down. Its Mid Sept :) Its almost here

dealer0168 ( Date: 14-Sep-2009 21:23) Posted:

Dong Ge, how today prediction.

Got possible U turn. Today heavy down first, got slight possible may flat at end (possibility 30% >dealer gauge).

handon ( Date: 14-Sep-2009 21:12) Posted:

my boss said this week sure HUAT until cannot recognize HOME.... hehe.... Smiley

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that's the fact :)They wanted to sell high. At least someone here know it

iPunter ( Date: 14-Sep-2009 21:36) Posted:

More likely, big boys keep the price high to release slowly... Smiley

thomas_low ( Date: 14-Sep-2009 21:11) Posted:

Hear people say BB is trying to keep the price down to collect, anyone spotted evidence on this?

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wait la. A lot of BB is waiting at the side line :) Soon like i say its support period. Soon it will cheong again