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i780samsung
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15-Sep-2009 18:14     
 
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 Alert Admin 		a nice overview of abterra here http://www.abterra.com.sg/pdf/media0909.pdf
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iPunter
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15-Sep-2009 18:06     
 
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When you see comments, you must also think of the context...

The person posting may not be a newbie like you. What he/she says may not apply to you as well.

For example, if you have bought a stock at the peak, a veteran would not, have by any imagination, bought at the peak.

For the veteran to cut loss, he would have lost only minimally, but for you to cut loss, that could be another big mistake by you.




tkimcs      ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 17:43) Posted:

cut loss... mental training for me. Thanks for opening my mind!

keepnosecrets      ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 16:08) Posted:

Agree, never tell yourself that a stock is for long term when you know you made a mistake buying it.  Just sell off and you let the rest of the profitable trades stay.  But if you don't have any profitable trades, then pray... and ask for forgiveness for that person who made money from you. Cheers
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15-Sep-2009 17:43     
 
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 Alert Admin 		cut loss... mental training for me. Thanks for opening my mind!

keepnosecrets      ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 16:08) Posted:

Agree, never tell yourself that a stock is for long term when you know you made a mistake buying it.  Just sell off and you let the rest of the profitable trades stay.  But if you don't have any profitable trades, then pray... and ask for forgiveness for that person who made money from you. Cheers.

iPunter      ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 15:59) Posted:



Saying resignedly 'for long-term'  is just like a boy who 'sayang' himself, stroke his own cheek,

and say to himself 'good boy' after falling from his bicycle... Smiley

Better to dump it quickly before it falls a lot more...


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bennykusman
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15-Sep-2009 17:24     
 
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http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache:Gb3lDF_ZAA4J:forum.channelnewsasia.com/viewtopic.php%3Ft%3D270520%26start%3D350%26postdays%3D0%26postorder%3Dasc%26highlight%3D%26sid%3D11ce89382ec763908c7b38e2136cfbd7+Pulses+Magazine+%2B+abterra&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=sg&client=firefox-a

 

that's the link.. not sure if you can open or not.. if cant, then google it : "Pulses Magazine + abterra" and click on the channelnewsasia forum



bennykusman      ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 17:22) Posted:

i bought the magazine.. you can search bookstore for September 09 issue..

i780samsung      ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 17:21) Posted:

any link
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bennykusman
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15-Sep-2009 17:22     
 
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 Alert Admin 		i bought the magazine.. you can search bookstore for September 09 issue..

i780samsung      ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 17:21) Posted:

any link?

bennykusman      ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 17:15) Posted:

it's Pulses magazine 


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i780samsung
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bennykusman      ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 17:15) Posted:

it's Pulses magazine 

bennykusman      ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 17:13) Posted:

what is the current situation in abterra ? btw, abterra was featured in a magazine for Sept 09.. to conclude, this company has a solid foundation and going a good growth


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i780samsung
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15-Sep-2009 17:20     
 
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how do you know mean nothing. you sounds too negative. got a huge lost before here?



risktaker      ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 16:48) Posted:

This mean nothing to abterra if you really know the current situation of Abterra :) Caution my friend ... Newbies out pls

i780samsung      ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 16:44) Posted:



From CitiBank... any influence to Abterra?

'We are raising our steel price forecasts', announces Euro analyst Johan Rode, 'up by +18.6% to $638/t for '10, and +16.4% to $700/t for '11... to reflect improved demand, and higher raw material price forecasts... to be sure, Europe looks set to lag Asia and the US in the speed of its economic recovery, but steel prices should be driven by cost-push factors outside of developed markets... we are also more positive on margins for 10 and 11 as the industry cost curve steepens with higher raw material costs... so in addition to raising estimates, we increase our target prices on all the steel names we cover... and add to our existing Buys on voestalpine (our sector top pick) and Salzgitter, with the upgrading of ArcelorMittal and ArcelorMittal South Africa'.

 


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iPunter
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15-Sep-2009 17:19     
 
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There are many good companies out there...

But the question is :- buy in at what price?

We need to buy low... not high... Smiley
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15-Sep-2009 17:15     
 
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bennykusman      ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 17:13) Posted:

what is the current situation in abterra ? btw, abterra was featured in a magazine for Sept 09.. to conclude, this company has a solid foundation and going a good growth

risktaker      ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 16:48) Posted:

This mean nothing to abterra if you really know the current situation of Abterra :) Caution my friend ... Newbies out pls


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bennykusman
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15-Sep-2009 17:13     
 
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 Alert Admin 		what is the current situation in abterra ? btw, abterra was featured in a magazine for Sept 09.. to conclude, this company has a solid foundation and going a good growth

risktaker      ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 16:48) Posted:

This mean nothing to abterra if you really know the current situation of Abterra :) Caution my friend ... Newbies out pls

i780samsung      ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 16:44) Posted:



From CitiBank... any influence to Abterra?

'We are raising our steel price forecasts', announces Euro analyst Johan Rode, 'up by +18.6% to $638/t for '10, and +16.4% to $700/t for '11... to reflect improved demand, and higher raw material price forecasts... to be sure, Europe looks set to lag Asia and the US in the speed of its economic recovery, but steel prices should be driven by cost-push factors outside of developed markets... we are also more positive on margins for 10 and 11 as the industry cost curve steepens with higher raw material costs... so in addition to raising estimates, we increase our target prices on all the steel names we cover... and add to our existing Buys on voestalpine (our sector top pick) and Salzgitter, with the upgrading of ArcelorMittal and ArcelorMittal South Africa'.

 


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 Alert Admin 		This mean nothing to abterra if you really know the current situation of Abterra :) Caution my friend ... Newbies out pls

i780samsung      ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 16:44) Posted:



From CitiBank... any influence to Abterra?

'We are raising our steel price forecasts', announces Euro analyst Johan Rode, 'up by +18.6% to $638/t for '10, and +16.4% to $700/t for '11... to reflect improved demand, and higher raw material price forecasts... to be sure, Europe looks set to lag Asia and the US in the speed of its economic recovery, but steel prices should be driven by cost-push factors outside of developed markets... we are also more positive on margins for 10 and 11 as the industry cost curve steepens with higher raw material costs... so in addition to raising estimates, we increase our target prices on all the steel names we cover... and add to our existing Buys on voestalpine (our sector top pick) and Salzgitter, with the upgrading of ArcelorMittal and ArcelorMittal South Africa'.

 

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dealer0168
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15-Sep-2009 16:47     
 
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dealer got plan one. No worry. Cheers.

Remember: Ren Shuang Bu Ru Tian Shuang.

 



keepnosecrets      ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 16:08) Posted:

Agree, never tell yourself that a stock is for long term when you know you made a mistake buying it.  Just sell off and you let the rest of the profitable trades stay.  But if you don't have any profitable trades, then pray... and ask for forgiveness for that person who made money from you. Cheers.

iPunter      ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 15:59) Posted:



Saying resignedly 'for long-term'  is just like a boy who 'sayang' himself, stroke his own cheek,

and say to himself 'good boy' after falling from his bicycle... Smiley

Better to dump it quickly before it falls a lot more...


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From CitiBank... any influence to Abterra?

'We are raising our steel price forecasts', announces Euro analyst Johan Rode, 'up by +18.6% to $638/t for '10, and +16.4% to $700/t for '11... to reflect improved demand, and higher raw material price forecasts... to be sure, Europe looks set to lag Asia and the US in the speed of its economic recovery, but steel prices should be driven by cost-push factors outside of developed markets... we are also more positive on margins for 10 and 11 as the industry cost curve steepens with higher raw material costs... so in addition to raising estimates, we increase our target prices on all the steel names we cover... and add to our existing Buys on voestalpine (our sector top pick) and Salzgitter, with the upgrading of ArcelorMittal and ArcelorMittal South Africa'.

 
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15-Sep-2009 16:27     
 
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You are so right, Sir...

The stock market really doesn't care a damn whether we win or lose...

If we lose, we must slap ourselves a few times on the cheek and pinch our earlobes with each hand...

And kneel down for 10 hours still pinching.... because it is our mistake.

Never use the 'long-term excuse to avoid the issue at hand...


Be utterly and honestly objective... Smiley
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 Alert Admin 		Agree, never tell yourself that a stock is for long term when you know you made a mistake buying it.  Just sell off and you let the rest of the profitable trades stay.  But if you don't have any profitable trades, then pray... and ask for forgiveness for that person who made money from you. Cheers.

iPunter      ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 15:59) Posted:



Saying resignedly 'for long-term'  is just like a boy who 'sayang' himself, stroke his own cheek,

and say to himself 'good boy' after falling from his bicycle... Smiley

Better to dump it quickly before it falls a lot more...

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Saying resignedly 'for long-term'  is just like a boy who 'sayang' himself, stroke his own cheek,

and say to himself 'good boy' after falling from his bicycle... Smiley

Better to dump it quickly before it falls a lot more...
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15-Sep-2009 15:38     
 
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This baby is for long term. It vested in too many things recently. Future prospect looks good as i will say.

Currently maybe in consolidation mode. Hope not too long.



keepnosecrets      ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 15:23) Posted:

Don't be emotional, it is bad for health.  Stock prices always fluctuates.  Maybe if you really want your counter to move up, you need to talk about it often in the forum here or in some other forums.

dealer0168      ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 14:45) Posted:



oh drop leh. Think really a long term liao. Come back to see it at 3rd qtr.

 
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iPunter
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15-Sep-2009 15:34     
 
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You bought @.058...

That was the time many think it was so cheap after it surged to .075.

So you now you see the truth of stocks...

there's no such thing as 'cheap' when it comes to stocks... all is betting...Smiley



tkimcs      ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 12:39) Posted:

thanks, senior.  Will treat this as one of my 'unit trust' - middle to long term investment.

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keepnosecrets
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15-Sep-2009 15:30     
 
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 Alert Admin 		I disagree on this because I won't even touch it if it goes to 0.005 cents.  This is because if it is that weak, why bother about the counter?
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 Alert Admin 		I will buy when it is 0.02 or 0.025
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