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Nice to know ur money in my pocket too lol (",) huat ahh

Isolator ( Date: 07-Oct-2013 17:10) Posted:

When Ma Hou Pao post.... it mean it will rebound..... Great that you give me confident.... LOL

medivh ( Date: 07-Oct-2013 16:54) Posted:

lol... well covered 4.9 swee swee

When ISo buys.. i sell.. (" ,) ,(,"

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Lol.. why u stating the obvious always? Wr also know u always wrong...(,")

Isolator ( Date: 07-Oct-2013 17:37) Posted:

I always wrong.... why listen to me.... Let's not be so emotional..... If I wrong, I make a big losses too.... But I still live on to continue with other trades..... This is life of trading.... There is always losses and winning.... Obviously these selldown is a plot..... But it will put to end at this bargain hunting price....

Bigmama ( Date: 07-Oct-2013 17:30) Posted:

You say rebound today and squeeze shorties...... As usual Wrong again.

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Pls la ... if we believe u long time ago we will already be in recession.. even DEPRESSION. . (,") lol

Isolator ( Date: 07-Oct-2013 18:43) Posted:

Yes... If these people are able short it down further, then the whole markets will go into early recession..... But of cos not without a tough fight....... Usually they will choose the easy way that is to buy up..

ballball ( Date: 07-Oct-2013 18:33) Posted:

Really

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Lol thats the funniest claim ever..u are indeed ma hou pao. And also qiu da pao. (Blow hot air)

Isolator ( Date: 07-Oct-2013 10:26) Posted:

LOL... I am always wrong..... but still need to post my buy... or else later I post I gain.... you will say me Ma Hou Pao.... LOL

everydayhuat ( Date: 07-Oct-2013 10:14) Posted:

No one cares about.ur views or buying strategies.as u have proved urself to be wrong time and time and again. so just shut up thank

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mama, no need argue with her.. as already said many times..you will huat when you go opposite of her calls.

HUAT AH~

Bigmama ( Date: 07-Oct-2013 15:04) Posted:

Little lying here detected.... Please see you own previous postings the price you purchase.... U started buying higher than 3.3. Lol

Isolator ( Date: 07-Oct-2013 14:50) Posted:

Having to enter my remaining 50% at 2.2 and 2.3ct.... Still got some queuing at 2.3.... I am done with my final buying..... I am still sitting in red after averaging down from 3.3...... And I am very confident I will turn green soon..... LOL

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lol... well covered 4.9 swee swee

When ISo buys.. i sell.. (" ,) ,(," )

medivh ( Date: 07-Oct-2013 09:19) Posted:

any1 short inno at high of 7c this morn? Blu big gap down.. inno also folo..

medivh ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 19:32) Posted:

Whoever name this thread " inno to follow blumont trend" have good foresight sia... blu big gap down inno also follow.. (",)

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bro, listen to my advice:

1) you need to stop posting here and talk to some counsellor who can guide you through your current situation. there are free Credit counselling services available, and also counselling for those in debt due to gambling. (admit it , you have lost cause you gambled big time)

2) Speak to your wife and family, reconcile with them , you need their support really. Esp moral support. Whats done is done..

3) draw up an action plan on how to pay up your creditors.. if you donno how to do it.. go back to point 1, these counsellors will help guide you and point you to the right person.

gd luck.

Sofarsogood? ( Date: 07-Oct-2013 13:59) Posted:

I have lost myself

I have ruined my family and

I have lost everything

paulr0x ( Date: 07-Oct-2013 13:11) Posted:

Bro, how much u lost? I have lost quite a bit too....:

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why ppl play contra? lol high excitment + gains when played properly. but the reverse can happen.

Look at the difference between now and few months back..

few months ago, ppl get hot, REAL HOT..cause pennies started getting feverish.

popular threads started in SJ forum, some ppl even started forming grps, they started talking how much they earn from contra... every day got ppl post earnings and they get so excited they finally earn, they thank all the bros who every other day, shared tips on counters going to chiong BIG TIME.

From the beginning when they started, I already forewarn of such sharing.. its a double-edged sword.

Its tempting, its exciting, so they play play play , every moment ,.. but the inevitable is bound to happen.

NB: ppl need to know when you are putting your money to a game of chance in any system.. its called betting.

As one sifu one says, gambling in casino or playing stock market, its all still betting.

bochap ( Date: 07-Oct-2013 13:24) Posted:

I don't understand why people want to play contra, with money that you cannot afford to lose. You win big, you lose big too. It's like a zero sum game, since there is always a loser when there is a winner. End of the day, in the long term, only 2 people actually made money, your brokerage and SGX, and somethings, the company's directors and CEO who ran away with your money.

SGX for pennies is like a casino, with SGX acting like the dealer and the players played against each other. When SGX is happy, they stopped the game and collect money from all players.

I thought Forex will be a better place to play, if one likes the excitement of contra. At least not much people can manipulate the market and there is no such thing as suspension or halt and it trades 24 hours a day.

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ace333 ( Date: 01-Oct-2013 10:44) Posted:

lol.........take a look at MIRACH..........BTW I am vested at 0.485 last week..........lol..........

ROFL.. I know you like me to show how big your " Kang" (hole) is.. so btw how's your losses so far in Macau? lol

ace333 ( Date: 07-Oct-2013 01:07) Posted:

lol.....WELL SAID.......really a discerning reader.........mock and suen some pple he also don't noe......look at the date and post(12 midnight)......even the 4D number 8693 was wed first prize when I said it on thur to illustrate HINDSIGHT............more hindsight should be coming like becareful don't play contra etc.............LOL.........these are things which I was saying since last mon 30sept..............which of coz saved u tons of $$$$$$..........ANYWAY the impt thing is this week some stks will cont to lao sai coz of margin calls force selling weak BB unwinding........still the same thing don't make$$$$ better than lose$$$$$..........some resilient stks like GSH I will be looking to BUY this week...........preferably around 0.076-0.077 but no rush..........coz many either gave up punting or limit to JAM le so can take yr time.............YHM swee right?..........0.063? KOON lah.......RELAC RELAC also can buy back 0.055-0.056..........TRY to be smart........lol

Candlez ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 13:59) Posted:

In this thread and other threads for the matter, it is for the viewers to discern whether they want to follow and to what extent. Ultimately one is responsible for his own profit and loss statement. Yes Bro ace did make some " not-so-accurate" calls like Mirach but he did indicate that he was going to pick up..so unless one intends to, then one should not follow..

His advice since late last week and early this week telling us to RELAC and don't make $$$ better than lose $$$ has saved quite a few of us who took it. Unfortunately I still went in to a few counters like Singhaiyi and GSH (itchy itchy hands..) but in very much reduced quantities, bearing in mind that these were risky trades in volatile times like these. I cleared all YHM at 7c (when I heard Bro ace was shorting) and Ipco at 4c (when it couldn't hold and major SSH were selling) and these were my largest holdings. Some other punting stocks that I went into (in small quantities)..like APS, I cut at 0.445, Sysma at 0.395, Amplefield at 0.078 because they didn't work out. Again, these tight stop-losses were in place because of Bro ace's repeated warnings about market correcting..and I am grateful for these because it means I can come back to fight another day, that is, if I want to.

So yes, BEWARE....read, digest, analyse yourself and apply whatever you think is applicable into your own trading plans..and make the best out of it..good luck and cheers!^

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any1 short inno at high of 7c this morn? Blu big gap down.. inno also folo..

medivh ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 19:32) Posted:

Whoever name this thread " inno to follow blumont trend" have good foresight sia... blu big gap down inno also follow.. (",)

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ball, u scared ace ah? lol i tell u, i say u correct cause u use the right quote..

u fren of ace , so pack of wolves flock together rite? lol (," )

ballball ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 17:09) Posted:

Walau, medivh... since when i said Ace is the wolf. Mai hai lang leh. U go thru Fri's posts, see who i mentioned is the wolf... lol
Just joking with Candlez, find the Fri market was very tense. Crack some jokes with candlez. Why i choose candlez? Because i not so familar w AutumnA n Luna69. Dunno their style yet.

medivh ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 00:27) Posted:

now ace333, you can fool others but cannot fool me.. u are a wolf in sheep skin.. as ballball says is correct.

forummers do be careful of this person.. u can follow but u will end up jialat jialat. beware (" ,

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I also cut and paste here. lol

There are many good warnings after last friday.. one guys say lost nearly 200k nearly wan to die..

another one say key wrongly cause broker force him to key in..

Play Contra is so dangerous.. its almost akin to putting lil bro to every hole u see and hoping u wont get aids/VD, just because you think only go in and out very short while, low risk high satisfaction... (," )

Really DON'T RISK IT ALL playing contra, DYODD also means DEFEND YOUR OWN DI DI. (" ,)

SFGuyRuleZ ( Date: 06-Oct-2013 01:03) Posted:

Copied and paste from what I posted just now in " Any Stocks Also Can Discuss Forum" , - just for sharing purposes..

" Contra can be really fun and addictive, and can also allow one to earn lots of money out from nothingness. However, it can also allow one to lose more than he/she can afford. True that some traders are really good and can earn alot from contra, but this kind of " game" is really too dangerous for most people. Therefore, in my own humble opinion, even if one is very good in contra, he/she should never promote or emphasize the merits of contra as it is just too dangerous. The gambling addiction will start once a person loses money, and he/she wants to contra more and cover back their losses. Even for those who are really good and can easily win alot from contra, they will have the idealogy that riches come easy. Some may not even want to work for the rest of their life. If everyone just stay at home to contra, what will this world and the economy become?

But, I do admit that sometimes, playing contra just abit as a healthy and leisure form of gambling is really alright, like what some said - to earn kopi money. Furthermore, playing with a stop loss and being not greedy, it should really be fine. But trying to make a living out from contra and to get rich super fast is just not too right, in my opinion.

You are right when you say that the longer you keep, it doesn't mean the more you make. When back to investing, one should always ask himself/herself the intention in the first place why he/she invested that sum of money in the stock. Is it for capital gain? Or is it for dividend yield? What prospects or fundamentals did he/she see in that business that one is able to invest that sum of money in it? If the fundamentals of the business have changed, whether higher debt, poorer earnings, competitors, outdated technology, overall bad market outlook, lousy management, etc..., and they are no longer in line of what you see when you first invested, one should always start to sell and look for other better opportunities. Having said, for investing for long term, it is always better to invest in companies that are undervalued and gives dividends. For capital gain and growing companies that does not give dividends or that give low-yield dividends, and their earnings are already stable for many years with limited growth, one can then valuate them according to their dividend yield and risk or debt level. If the yield is too poor despite being cash rich and stable earnings, I would also sell for I no longer see the value in that company. Blue chip companies in general give about 3 - 4% dividend yield.

Not here to challenge anyone, but after yesterday's bloodbath and some of the new threads here in SJ, I can't help thinking of myself and another older friend of mine who once also contra, trying to get rich fast. I even went to the extreme of tapping into my credit and cashline limits to tank my losses. When you contra, you really do not have the holding power and market is always uncertain. And you can never gauge how market reacts to certain news, or when some news suddenly pop out. I am lucky to lose only a little before I wake up. Anyway I am also not here to preach, and I am actually only 26 (turning 27 this year), despite from some PMs that people thought I am already very old. I don't dare to say I know alot about stocks and investing, but I have taken an interest in investing since young and have done paper trades before I started real investing. I am also lucky to have my uncles who are businessmen and taught me alot about shares and investing. So this is just to share a little about me also, if that matters. Cheers!! =)"

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There are many good warnings after last friday.. one guys say lost nearly 200k nearly wan to die..

another one say key wrongly cause broker force him to key in..

Play Contra is so dangerous.. its almost akin to putting lil bro to every hole u see and hoping u wont get aids/VD, just because you think only go in and out very short while, low risk high satisfaction... (," )

Really DON'T RISK IT ALL playing contra, DYODD also means DEFEND YOUR OWN DI DI. (" ,)

SFGuyRuleZ ( Date: 06-Oct-2013 00:07) Posted:

Contra can be really fun and addictive, and can also allow one to earn lots of money out from nothingness. However, it can also allow one to lose more than he/she can afford. True that some traders are really good and can earn alot from contra, but this kind of " game" is really too dangerous for most people. Therefore, in my own humble opinion, even if one is very good in contra, he/she should never promote or emphasize the merits of contra as it is just too dangerous. The gambling addiction will start once a person loses money, and he/she wants to contra more and cover back their losses. Even for those who are really good and can easily win alot from contra, they will have the idealogy that riches come easy. Some may not even want to work for the rest of their life. If everyone just stay at home to contra, what will this world and the economy become?

But, I do admit that sometimes, playing contra just abit as a healthy and leisure form of gambling is really alright, like what some said - to earn kopi money. Furthermore, playing with a stop loss and being not greedy, it should really be fine. But trying to make a living out from contra and to get rich super fast is just not too right, in my opinion.

You are right when you say that the longer you keep, it doesn't mean the more you make. When back to investing, one should always ask himself/herself the intention in the first place why he/she invested that sum of money in the stock. Is it for capital gain? Or is it for dividend yield? What prospects or fundamentals did he/she see in that business that one is able to invest that sum of money in it? If the fundamentals of the business have changed, whether higher debt, poorer earnings, competitors, outdated technology, overall bad market outlook, lousy management, etc..., and they are no longer in line of what you see when you first invested, one should always start to sell and look for other better opportunities. Having said, for investing for long term, it is always better to invest in companies that are undervalued and gives dividends. For capital gain and growing companies that does not give dividends or that give low-yield dividends, and their earnings are already stable for many years with limited growth, one can then valuate them according to their dividend yield and risk or debt level. If the yield is too poor despite being cash rich and stable earnings, I would also sell for I no longer see the value in that company. Blue chip companies in general give about 3 - 4% dividend yield.Not here to challenge anyone, but after yesterday's bloodbath and some of the new threads here in SJ, I can't help thinking of myself and another older friend of mine who once also contra, trying to get rich fast. I even went to the extreme of tapping into my credit and cashline limits to tank my losses. When you contra, you really do not have the holding power and market is always uncertain. And you can never gauge how market reacts to certain news, or when some news suddenly pop out. I am lucky to lose only a little before I wake up. Anyway I am also not here to preach, and I am actually only 26 (turning 27 this year), despite from some PMs that people thought I am already very old. I don't dare to say I know alot about stocks and investing, but I have taken an interest in investing since young and have done paper trades before I started real investing. I am also lucky to have my uncles who are businessmen and taught me alot about shares and investing. So this is just to share a little about me also, if that matters. Cheers!! =)

Stockcham ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 08:01) Posted:

Bro, I've mentioned in my previous post before that it depends on whether one wants to invest in stocks or play stocks. Fundamental is important if one want to invest in stocks. Anybody who are in the market can see that in a bull market, counters without fundamental can move a lot while many good fundamental counters do not move as much. You can see that fundamental becomes secondary in a bull market. So if one wants to play stocks, we should follow the flow so that we can makes money. But of course when market starts to correct, the reverse will happen. Those without fundamental will likely die first and can die jialat jialat. I'm not an investor. I'm a short term player and so I follow the flow and analyze what BBs going to do next with the help of TA. I don't focus too much on how good a company is. You can see that even I'm a short term player, how come I don't touch Liongold, Blumont and Asiasons, and never mentioned in my thread to share with bros & sis when it chiong and chiong. From the way it moves up, can see that these are very risky counters to touch. How can they worth that price. One need to have some knowledge and skill no matter whether we play stocks, mahjong, sports or anything else. If don't have, hard to win. That's why I tried to share what I know. Even though I'm still not good enough, at least peoples pick up some skill to minimize their loss when they started to play stocks. Many will advice not to play contra. This is definitely good advice. But in realistic, many peoples will still play contra even if they are investing. At the end of the day, one have to do anything within his/her own limit. Just like in doing business. One can own a very good business making very good profit. If he is too greedy and want to expand his business too fast outside his limit, then his good profit business may also toh if it doesn't go his way. In stocks trading, we buy during a bull market but we also need to know how to sell when market turn against us. If you have been reading this thread regularly, you may realize that recently I started to post about signs of correction. Bros and sis who PM recently, I didn't ask them to buy anything. Most of my advice is to ask them to sell.

Come back to fundamental. If I want to invest a counter, then fundamental and Fund's interest in the counter will be my priority. I don't believe in picking up shares when it has run so much during bull market unless the shares worth much more than the current price. That's the reason why many peoples kena stucked at high for many years. Investing in stocks is not about buying a counter and keep long long. It doesn't mean the longer you keep you make money. When the company performance startst to drop, it is time to sell. In my opinion, the best time to pick up shares is during the bear market when very good fundamental drop too low.

Just my thoughts!

Huat ah

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time will tell (" ,) can see the pipe piper drawing lil mousies to him.. lol

Candlez ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 13:59) Posted:

In this thread and other threads for the matter, it is for the viewers to discern whether they want to follow and to what extent. Ultimately one is responsible for his own profit and loss statement. Yes Bro ace did make some " not-so-accurate" calls like Mirach but he did indicate that he was going to pick up..so unless one intends to, then one should not follow..

His advice since late last week and early this week telling us to RELAC and don't make $$$ better than lose $$$ has saved quite a few of us who took it. Unfortunately I still went in to a few counters like Singhaiyi and GSH (itchy itchy hands..) but in very much reduced quantities, bearing in mind that these were risky trades in volatile times like these. I cleared all YHM at 7c (when I heard Bro ace was shorting) and Ipco at 4c (when it couldn't hold and major SSH were selling) and these were my largest holdings. Some other punting stocks that I went into (in small quantities)..like APS, I cut at 0.445, Sysma at 0.395, Amplefield at 0.078 because they didn't work out. Again, these tight stop-losses were in place because of Bro ace's repeated warnings about market correcting..and I am grateful for these because it means I can come back to fight another day, that is, if I want to.

So yes, BEWARE....read, digest, analyse yourself and apply whatever you think is applicable into your own trading plans..and make the best out of it..good luck and cheers!^^

medivh ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 00:27) Posted:

now ace333, you can fool others but cannot fool me.. u are a wolf in sheep skin.. as ballball says is correct.

forummers do be careful of this person.. u can follow but u will end up jialat jialat. beware (" ,

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anyway i just want to end off my comment here to say if u feel unjustly treated by the *gangster or unprofessional advice* given,

go ahead write complain letter.

Just remember lor, your losts already done and executed by you. If you are trying to make back money that you have lost through complaint letter etc. its useless.. Sue them also cost u money and effort.

Good luck to u Jacques. gd nite peeps..(," )

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that is a question Jac has to answer lor...

if never mark proper short sell orders there are penalites also.

what i don't understand is why jac went to key in and not let the broker do it himself, since knowing that if broker execute the order without client's advice/permission, the broker will be liable for charges.

i believe when jac shorted inno at 500 lots , already kan chiong , donno do the right thing or not.. broker call at the time px went up liao.. panic attack.. so key in 500 lots.. broker never really need to threaten in that manner unless jac has done something so dangerous that the advice has to be given, and jac underpressure went to key in the order himself.

done.

karmaloop ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 01:27) Posted:

I have seen the KE platform and on the normal stock platform, there is the option buy / sell / short-sell. Hence, KE platform allows short-selling of stocks. Some cfd platforms may not provide stocks like innopac to trade due to the high risk of leveraging on more volatile counters. So, the only way to short sell these penny stocks is via the normal market

Like I said, the broker can warn the client about the potential risks, thats all. But what the broker did was threaten to cover client's position or else the broker will do so himself. That is already very wrong

medivh ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 01:18) Posted:

let me ask 2 simple qns:

1) what type of acct did u use to sell? naked or cfd?

2) what was your sell limit when u shorted 500 lots of inno? did you use all?

I believe without you telling me I roughly know the answer.. first what u did is naked short

and second , you punted more than 50% of your sell limit. Think about it, if u are the broker,

what would u do

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when u do online trading, they dont coerce u to key in the trade.. whatever trade u key in is ur sole responsibility.

if they speak gangsterly type of tone to you , then u have a case as I said.. they coerce u.

karmaloop ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 01:12) Posted:

That is true to a small extent. This poor dude was misled and made confused to cover a position that was considered a legal trade. Given that he was able to place the trade in the first place meant that there was no counter nor limit restriction set by the broker. The broker was supposed to be comfortable with the client's exposure given the limits he has, if the broker allowed the trade to be executed and then feel uncomfortable with it clearly says the broker is not doing his job to manage his/her own risk. How can you let a client execute a trade and them threaten to cover his position later. This is absurd.

In this case, client was induced and threatened to cover a legal position, client has every right to file claim.

medivh ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 01:00) Posted:

I think u better read the fine print in the terms and conditions rgding online trading before you file complaint.

if the manager executes the trade on your behalf u may have a case,

the fact that you executed the trade deems u responsible, irregardless of whatever advice they may have

rendered to you on the phone. Unless they coerce you in a tone fitting of a threat, else its a lost cause.

Writing to ST forum will only show more of your noobness and idiocy. (pardon me but I'm just being frank here)

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let me ask 2 simple qns:

1) what type of acct did u use to sell? naked or cfd?

2) what was your sell limit when u shorted 500 lots of inno? did you use all?

I believe without you telling me I roughly know the answer.. first what u did is naked short

and second , you punted more than 50% of your sell limit. Think about it, if u are the broker,

what would u do?

Jacques ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 01:08) Posted:

The threat is to freeze all my selling limits for the day to prevent me frm short selling, and then credit dept will jam my a/c for some time lor. I only thinking to complain to FIDREC coz it's free for consumers, and since they hv authority to order financial institutions to compensate after adjudication.

medivh ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 01:00) Posted:

I think u better read the fine print in the terms and conditions rgding online trading before you file complaint.

if the manager executes the trade on your behalf u may have a case,

the fact that you executed the trade deems u responsible, irregardless of whatever advice they may have

rendered to you on the phone. Unless they coerce you in a tone fitting of a threat, else its a lost cause.

Writing to ST forum will only show more of your noobness and idiocy. (pardon me but I'm just being frank here)

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I think u better read the fine print in the terms and conditions rgding online trading before you file complaint.

if the manager executes the trade on your behalf u may have a case,

the fact that you executed the trade deems u responsible, irregardless of whatever advice they may have

rendered to you on the phone. Unless they coerce you in a tone fitting of a threat, else its a lost cause.

Writing to ST forum will only show more of your noobness and idiocy. (pardon me but I'm just being frank here)

Jacques ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 00:05) Posted:

Yes. Thats the point and problem. The hse dealer said he is kind to request his manager to call me b4 hand and inform me to buy back immediately. If I don't do so, his manager will execute the force buy at immediate px too. I overheard his manager's voice was besides him until I filled the trade. KE is damn unreasonably kia si firm. Blumont, Asiasons, and Liongold was suspended within mins of each other. If Innopac was to suspend, would hv done it together liao. I short sell at 10:15am, kena forced buy by them at 10:35am. I only know of force selling. This is first time I heard of force buying. I shld really file complaint to compensate me right?

zedteo ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 23:43) Posted:

Bro.. Wat i meant was if u did not buy back when they asked u to, what will happen? They freeze yr acct? Or they buy for u? I believe they also cannot do anything coz they cannot act on your behal

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don't lose too much in macau hor.. else u cannot pay for ur debts here in stk market..

Lion gold lol (" ,)

ace333 ( Date: 27-Sep-2013 00:00) Posted:

today is a good longing day esp those who long LIONGOLD GREAT EASTERN SARIN................lol......tomolo night I will give out more winners...........lol

medivh ( Date: 26-Sep-2013 23:28) Posted:

today is a good shorting day .. esp. those who short Ipco, amplefield and Informatics..

HUAT ah~(" ,) (," )