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Is Biosensors a good buy?

huatah
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14-Nov-2007 21:26

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CE out by End Nov... End Dec.. Between Jan to Mar 08.... which is which.. no one knows.. even know it.. also cant disclose wat...

I once went to a lawyer for a court case... and he told me.. u case can fight.. u got all the strong points.. but when ask whether i sure win the case or not.. he said 50/50.. and when i asked Y 50/50 when he said until the cow comes home.. he replied tat no one in this industry/world will dare to tell u sure win.

Same logic in BIG CE announcement... despite BIG management knows that CE is around the corner, perhaps a rough date back in their mind, they will not be specific. Like Bengster68 mentioned, a CFO tends to be conservative... rather put longer time frame.

Citing another example: A salesperson when committing to a order will tend to indicate that the delivery time would be 10 to 12 weeks when in fact, the organization could do it within 8 to 10 weeks. Y???

Ok.. enou of my grandmother stories.. Good-de-nite..

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huatah
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14-Nov-2007 21:17

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great to see so many BIG supporters responded..

teresa, u r not alone at 0.99.. haha.. u hv me alongside.. though i have purchased several lots in different rates, 0.99 is one of the highest and biggest lots..tis counter will shine eventually.... i have 100% faith in it.

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Manikamaniko.
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14-Nov-2007 17:25

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hahaha...

I think the best person to help us on this is none other than Nickyng... hehehe... Smiley

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poppy_toyz
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14-Nov-2007 17:21

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Aiyo, u seasoned forummer always used those chim chim term newbie like me got problem understanding...shorties,Kateh....etc

Let's stop finger pointing and do some education for newbie_me....

What is the strategy of shorting? How it works? And what is the goodness and badness of shorting?

Smiley

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teresa
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14-Nov-2007 16:51

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Guys, I'm vested at 0.99 and I'm not blaming anyone. I'm still holding on and will decide when to exit or cut loss.

What bengster68 did was just to give his opinions just like most forumers, ultimately its up to you to decide. He cannot predict the future. At least he did his research. I think no one should blame one another. Can only blame on your LUCK!!

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ironside
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14-Nov-2007 16:10

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Bengster68 keep your cool, I wish to express my appreciation for your detail and up-to-date feedback on biosensor, you did a good job!

I think because you are heavily invested in this counter, you tend to see thing too positively. CE coming end Nov, end Dec etc., when the CFO already informed that CE is expected between 12 to 14 weeks.

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EastWind
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14-Nov-2007 16:05

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alamak, my salah engrish - tetype.

Bro Beng - for every one forummer whom you feel is a nuisance, there are many others who appreciate your analysis. We are the silent majority who read what you have to say and then decide for ourselves whether to buy or not. So, dont have to react to the noise.

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EastWind
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14-Nov-2007 16:00

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Bro Beng, see? For every one forummer who creates is a nuisance, there are at many others who appreciate your posts. We are the silent majority who read your analysis and make up our own minds whether to buy or not.

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A02041315
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14-Nov-2007 15:41

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This is what 787180 posted on 14/8/2007,during there time I think he vested a lot of Jade share and mention Jade like Keppal Corp.now I guess he clear all his share and said Jade is lousy stock.

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on fri 13 july jade close at 32cts..time to move >30cts...

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:11 am Post subject: Jade will return to profitability this Fin year

CEO Dr.Anthony,former general practioner,has shepherded successfully several start-ups to market during his years as a private equity investor.He owns 52.7% in Jade and he started a medical device and a medical portal in the mid 1990s and was bought over with handsome profits..was a director of UOB Bio Ventures and helped set up UOB Bio Fund. He also set up Asia Growth Pte Ltd and remains as chairman and MD involves in investment holding and management. In 2004 ,Dr.Soh successfully listed Cordlife ltd a co specialises in stem cell research and services in Australia and also China Medstar that specialises in cancer therapy and successfully listedon the UK's Alternative Investment Market in 2005.Dr Soh see Jade "s path to profitability lies in commodities and oil trading and expect Jade to be in the black this year. He also owns 30% of First Capital Growth Investment ltd(FCGIL) which saw revenues of S$760mil and has garnered an US $1.3 Billion and jade will be roped in to liase with the end purchasers of the Russian gas oil and assist in procuring storage and warehousing facilities for the gas oil..hence risk lies with FCGIL and not Jade but Jade will reap gross revenue $7.2 mil over the 12mth period and that this oil contracts is renewable year after year and DR.Soh stresses that" many more such contracts waiting for us" and Jade's profit margin from more such contracts could be very high. Dr Soh claims Brian Beazer, Chairman of Jade has been involved in property and construction since 1956 and is a chairman of Beazer Homes USA Inc a residential property developer listed on NYSE. Chairman since 1996 with Jade,Brian is also a chairman of Jacuzzi Brands which makes plumbing products and NumereX Corp,a maker of communication products listed on Nasdaq.Hence Brian will provide good guidance to build >$200mil project within the Iskandar Development region in Johore, building a hospital,nursing training college,retirement resort and a hotel. Altough Jade has aborted the IT ventures, it has intended to acquire a copper mine to enhance its existing lead frame maker and Soh points out that Jade's existing leadframe maker is still a US 6 billion business globally and that there are only 10 players worldwide and Jade is one of them.Jade was previously hit by rising raw material price especail copper and the intended purchase of a coppermine in Australia or Indonesia would prevent eroding of Jade's bottomline.What a good foresight..with new management team and new ideas especially incumbent Dr.Soh..Jade will soar again Jade will be turn into an energy,commodities and real estate player.Hence its run up in share price is reasonable although analysts commented on its past losses but what the market looks for is its future potentials/investments especially with two successful giants Dr.Soh and Brian Beazer at its helm.strong buy for accumulation..may be another Keppel Corp Back to top

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bengster68
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14-Nov-2007 15:35

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Shangdong weigao's Q3 2007 results as per their webpage. I think the RMB42,922,000 is refering to first 9 months earnings:

Production and sales of drug eluting stents by JW Medical, which is 50% held by
the Company, recorded significant growth during the period. Development of
international sales is progressing well. During the period, the attributable profit of JW
Medical to the Group was approximately RMB42,922,000, representing an
increase of approximately 139.8% over the corresponding period in last year.
Construction works of the production base which JW Medical invested at the end
of last year (approximately RMB25,554,000) are still in progress and is anticipated
to be put into operation in the first half of 2008.

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A02041315
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14-Nov-2007 15:23

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Bro Bengster,

This 787180 aka Happyday aka superwomqn ,ignore this bad guy,

BIG !!!CHEONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AR!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Smiley

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PinkyGoh
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14-Nov-2007 15:20

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Hi Bengster, I'm new in share trading., only started 2 months ago. I'd been following all your postings, and they are the most insightful that I had come across. I'm vested in this share and I'm not worried at all

Don't be distracted by some speculators. You don't have to bring yourself down to their level to tekan them.....whoever believe in BIG potential will not be swayed by those talks.

Cheers!

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poiuyt
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14-Nov-2007 15:00

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Ultimately, its a good company. I agree with beng's analysis that the mkt has grossly undervalued this company.

Unfortunately, sgpore mkt is so small, stocks are affected very much by syndicated price manipulation. However, long run, investors in BIG will be rewarded.

Btw, I am vested in a low price, so I am not worried about its price coming down. But, having said that, I am quite irritated when I do see its intra-day price action. This time around, I think kateks will be made to pay. Its time their love affair with BIG comes to an end.

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allright
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14-Nov-2007 14:53

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See what I mean? You have loyal and good investors who are rational. What Investor posted about Shandon Weigao re JW Medical is very relevant. Wonder why Biosensors doesnt issue a statement

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huatah
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14-Nov-2007 14:45

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Indeed.. bengster.. for those in this market.. will appreciate the potential of BIG (BioMatrix).. de believer will have the last laugh.. we cant stop them from speculating.... or writing this and that.. investor.. traders will have to analyst themselves and make their own judgement.. Franking speaking.. i got myself hook up at 0.99 rates without even a single worry.. cos i believe in BIG.. Cheers...

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allright
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14-Nov-2007 14:38

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Bengster relax and dont fall into this person's trap. As you can tell from the forum we all appreciate the advice you have been giving and I personally am impressed by your knowledge and those from the others eg. Investor etc...So ignore and dont write anything against this person - He or she is not important

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bengster68
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14-Nov-2007 12:40

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You focking blind again??? haven't you read this one today also at SJ where you actively persuaded formers to be your sacrificial "queen"?

bengster68 Posted: 13-Nov-2007 12:12 (at SJ Forum)
My opinion is don't buy [/color]and don't sell yet if you are already vested. BIG is very confident CE will be approved and CFO hinted a very conservative approval is early Jan 2008 right after Christmas Holidays. However, if you haven't bought it cheap before 29/10 chiong and willing to hold for 2 months until early Jan 2008, you may consider buying some when it drop. With CE a certainty and conservative approval date is early Jan 2008, i don't think the BBs will not let this stock drop too much during this stage. We have seen how they push up this stock twice over the past few days. I estimate the BB's average price should be around 82cts if they buy from 29/10 onwards. I feel BBs will push this stock to about $1.30 after CE announcement. Just my opinion and not an inducement to buy.

You actively told everyone to short BIG last week and eventually most followers ended up your sacrificial "queens" so you can eventually "checkmate'? You claim that you covered back well and you are a good speculator. Where were you when the BBs bought up? You did not even bother to post an immediate strategy in exactly those forum timely enough to attempt to rescue those sacificial "queens"? I have put up "Please Do Not Short Now" just the day before BBs sudden buy up in so many forum threads and prevented many from becoming sacrificial queens. You have been posting in so many forum threads slandering me. And here you are shameless enough to suggest i am evil?

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bengster68
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14-Nov-2007 12:38

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This 787180 aka Happyday aka superwomqn has been slandering me around all the forum threads. What a real bitch!

Superwomqn wrote:

Stromg feeling that BB pushed to unload.Those shorted previously at 90 or . even shorted at 86 to 90cts also made liao.This time again many are tricked into buying this counter by ang tay kor.Let it drift to 65cts then buy.wait till mouth big big jan 2008 delay again to 2009 since listing hve been hearing all this rumours

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The person who shorted and know how to cover is a real speculator.He probably knows how to go for the kill.Don't be overconfident and always using CE approval to tempt pple to buy this counter.Many pple hve died listening to your advice,Hai see ren.very evil indeed

Fock You Shameless Bitch! Stop slandering a good person just because i manage to prevent people from shorting Biosensors and getting themselves hurt last week if they have listened to your self-profitting ways.

You focking blind??? I just posted this yesterday.
Ang Tay Kor wrote:
A lot of SJ forumers already bought BIG cheap before the huge run up on 29/10. Don't have to buy now and chase the stock. But don't have to sell now also because i feel CE coming soon. Risky to short it. The best thing is to wait a while more for main course to arrive. It will be a very sumptuous one. The reason why the share price historically weak and still reporting losses is because BIG cannot commercialise their flagship product due to CE delay. We know Biomatrix will be an "Yi Pao Er Hong" hit for BIG. Biomatrix's stent performance (super low restenosis and zero late-thrombosis) will still be legendary even years down the road. I believe 5 years from now even newer DES will find Biomatrix's top class performance very difficult to beat. But if you want to trade, you really have to trade with care.

Happyday/787180/etc has just transformed into a superwomanly name today (13/11/07). First day come into forum bad breath start already scolding people evil. How good can you be? Duno how many "Queen" followers has been sacrificed for her personal "checkmate" strategy. Post something of more substance lah. Don't always slander others and do postings for your own personal gain only.

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poiuyt
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14-Nov-2007 11:17

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where are all the kateks screaming tt the rise is not sustainable?

where are all the kateks screaming tt its a loss-making company? lousy stock. sure to come down! chance to off-load now.

i'm sure they won't disappoint. very soon will come out and start posting.

there are traders and there are investors. investors look at good fundamentals and win out over long term. traders look at price action and win over short term. but eventually fundamentals will catch up with technicals and overtake short term manipulations.

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poiuyt
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14-Nov-2007 10:51

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i love this action. so fun.

kateks who have fallen in love shorting this stock and fools who have been "conned" by CE story thrashing it out. kateks, pls short more so that others can have chance to buy cheap cheap.

wonder who will win this fight.

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