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cashiertan
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17-Jan-2008 11:57
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but than it can be only me. i just keep my finger cross and dun stop u from doing u biz. i apologise for that. lol cant help it when i dun really like genie at all. |
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cashiertan
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17-Jan-2008 11:53
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Mani, i kinda regret buying. serious. no joke. www.stockcharts.com is better and free |
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mike8057d
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17-Jan-2008 11:41
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thanks Mani...how much is it? |
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Manikamaniho
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17-Jan-2008 10:09
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For most people, "Not Losing Is Already Winning"... This is a true statement... |
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mike8057d
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17-Jan-2008 09:38
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nono1975...see doctor...please go to Raffles Medical.......I have shares there....heheheheehe |
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zhuge_liang
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17-Jan-2008 01:56
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To prevent making the same mistakes, it's best that novices read up on the "Common mistakes investors make" thread in the General - Others catagory. |
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nono1975
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17-Jan-2008 00:56
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Looks like all of us needs to see a doc and have a good rest. remember the words i wrote in the YN posting in 2007 Oct. not very comfort with US index. and i pulled out everything in Nov exp. 1 got suck. there might be a technical rebound soon or not even a rebound. Next to see is China shipping index in the coming months if good, should be ok to make some recover. 1 of my friends brought 1 counter at $1.6 last year and in Oct up to $3.1, I advice him to unload and take profit. But he want more $ at higher price . So he wait but price went to down and up a bit up and down again. Yestarday I ask him again, will you be unloading at this price $2.6? Guess what, he reply today, he unload all counter. But there're still counter out there with good ground to invest. So all of us here might just need to wait for a clearer sky on US. good luck to all. |
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asleep
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17-Jan-2008 00:16
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Hi failure, The sg market is not a leader. It always lags behind the Dow and HSI. The sad thing about sgx is that, when the Dow and HSI rises, it may not rise. But if either one falls, sgx will fall as well. Another thing about TA. Try not to have too much emphasis on those oscillators and indicators. They are just there as a guide. Id rather trade base on trendlines and S&R alone. They are a much better source to make some decent profit. One good example of how a "good" indicator such a MACD will screw up, in a volatile stock such as STX PO. By the time you wait for the buy and sell signals, the war would be over and instead of profiting from the battle, you will be there to pick up the leftovers with lots of mines around. Another point is about the Elliot wave. It is quite difficult to determine which wave are we in. If you have read books about it, it will probably say for a uptrend, there will be 5 waves up (in a zig zag manner) and 3 waves down. But inside each waves, there will be another subset, and another one. IMHO, I find its a waste of time, but thats only for me. I am sure others have benefited from using that theory. |
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failure
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16-Jan-2008 22:38
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Hi Asleep & OneSharer actually your advice quite good. Thanks. Asleep, yes I was too extreme, actually TA & FA still got uses, come to think of it, it saved my butt once or twice before. but also just wanna warn people that dun trust it too much. Some shares RSI oversold can be oversold for a long time (See ChinaEAuto)..some overbought (see biosensors) it decided to shoot up somemore.. sometimes DOW can go 170+ but tomorrow STI can go still down just because goldman sacs release some negative "report". Sometimes "preception" beats positive TA and FA down. (See CitySpring saga) Onesharer.. yes the mind must be protected.. thanks. |
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simck001
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16-Jan-2008 22:12
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Yeah, right. I would love to remain positive. Just wonder how much more increase there is from -ve 10%. May be 15%? OuMiTouFo! |
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OneSharer
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16-Jan-2008 22:08
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The brain is very powerful. Must learn to protect it with positive thinking. Dwelling on past negatives will not help your future. Think that is why people don't like to "remember their losses". You are entitled to feel sad about the losses, but advise you to do so for a while. Determine to make tomorrow better and treat yourself better. Losing $ in the market is understandable, but by all means do not allow yourself to lose your spirit there -- it does not deserve it. |
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louis_leecs
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16-Jan-2008 21:49
Yells: "half cash" |
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today i go in to pit some of my pofolio at chip eng seng,,,,,at 535cts,,,,,my ah moh remiser sms me market oversell but will technical rebound,soon,,,,,downside may be limited,,,,,,, perhap 5 to 10% down but that will create a big upstread,,,, so buy on deep must haVE BULLET,,,,,,,CHEERS,,,,,,IM BACK TO MARKET AGAIN,,,,,,BUY MORE AKANG DATANG |
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asleep
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16-Jan-2008 18:37
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Hi failure, I will have to disagree on your statement *Bros timing is everything, TA & FA is nothing during super bearish times like now * During the bear times, especially this week, a lot of charts broke their support line and can be shorted quite freely. Likewise, all the major banks for the US will declare their quarter earnings or losses in the case of citigroup this week. This will bring about a more serious decline in the US market which directly affect ours. However, with that being said, it will be wise for people who lost quite an amount of money to stay on the sidelines to recollect his past actions and to re-evaluate the situation. If you are not keen on going short, it will be good to just wait for the trend to reverse itself. Do not trade when you cannot afford to lose. It will be very bad for the psychology of trading and it will make yourself jittery with any price changes. With a prolonged downtrend, prices are likely to rebound soon, either to cosolidate and fall further or make a reverse. Wish you well for 2008 cheers! |
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Lazyhorse
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16-Jan-2008 18:18
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AK Francis, You have my full blessing. I believe it's going up soon. Cheers.. |
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AK_Francis
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16-Jan-2008 18:14
Yells: "Happy go lucky, cheers." |
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AK show hands already:). Tomorrow gonna be a by-stander at the stock table already. May all kakis have my heartfelt blessing. Cheers. |
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Centaur
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16-Jan-2008 18:06
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haiz, market sick, me even more sick.. almost throw my reserves in to buy some undervalue counters, see the STI plunge to -90pts, don't dare to throw in... |
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Lazyhorse
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16-Jan-2008 18:00
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simck001, Me lost 25% of portfolio just within these 2-3 weeks. Like you, I will still hold on till I see GREEN....NOTHING BUT GREEN !!! |
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simck001
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16-Jan-2008 17:38
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Nearly 10% loss. No eye to see liao. Give up until I see 50% of greens in my portfolio. |
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failure
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16-Jan-2008 17:27
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This thread I find it hard to write, every letter pains me Even now, my bank is empty, and I am in a minor debt. I just told my friend last nite "You know, even the begger with 1 dollar in his hand is richer than me now" because I actually owe money. And its not for a house or a car which can be sold, just pure debt. Avenger, i admire your courage, even though u may have lost more than me. One cannot help thinking that if I did nothing for the past 7 yrs, I would be very happy now. Actually I had a second chance, when I had a (money) loss of 35k, but what did I do? Take revenge, and I got killed by the revenge. Bros timing is everything, TA & FA is nothing during super bearish times like now. If Warrant buffet started his career yesterday, I doubt he will be as succsessful today. If you look at the market now, even value stock has no value. The best way to fail is to think you can't. |
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avenger
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16-Jan-2008 16:58
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For a start, for all who are stuck. There may be an unsustainable rally towards month end till mid Feb depending on what's said at the Budget speech. Do watch out for the upturn, average up your losing stocks and RUN FOR YOUR LIFE! Never average down or you will be stuck even more. If you miss this you may be stuck for a long long time. When there's an opportunity for the next rally you will miss out as your funds are jammed. Always preserve funds, (lose some $$$$ nevermind). When there's another opportunity go back in for the next upturn ride. |
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