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Manikamaniko.
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13-Dec-2007 20:00
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Simply buying a great product will not make one a great trader... More is needed, namely the commitment and dedication to follow the teachings conscientiously... Just as to develope one's stamina, one has to regularly work at it... as in... "Beautiful Arobicise Workout Video"... 
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Manikamaniko.
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13-Dec-2007 18:07
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Z040069... :) It depends on whether you are an advanced trader (like Cashier), or relatively new to the game. If you have been only trading based on the 'fundamentals', I assume you would have lost a lot of money in the recent bear market, since if you have loyally stuck to a stock's 'strong and good' fundamentals, you would have lost quite a lot of money in the recent bear market fall. If you are new to TA, I suggest you get hold of the "Genie Tutorials", since it also contain a good portion dealing with TA, indicators, hints, etc, in a clearly explained and understandable manner... 
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Z040069
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13-Dec-2007 17:36
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Im learning how to use TA. Anyone has any good books to recommend? |
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mike8057d
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13-Dec-2007 13:43
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Thank you Manikamaniko |
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Manikamaniko.
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13-Dec-2007 13:17
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For convenience, below is the list of all the products which I recommend in this thread... 1."The Genie Tutorials". This 10-part ebook is excellent for use as a life-time guide or 'virtual mentor' for those who wish to own a complete manual for successful stock market play. 2."The Master Trader". This package comes with many bonus items which the more advanced trader will relish with delightful interest! 3."The Way To Trade". Another great trading guide for aspiring traders to widen their trading perspective. 4."Trade Secrets Video Program". An excellent product for those who prefer watching a visual presentation of trading teachings. There you have it... no need to scroll high and low for a particular recommended product...
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Manikamaniko.
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13-Dec-2007 13:14
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Cashier... :) hahaha... thank you for your frank views... they are very good and enlightening, Especially the part where you compare trading to military operations... it is so all relevant... The stock market is really a battlefield where different techniques are at play all the time...
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cashiertan
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13-Dec-2007 13:11
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hmmm got an idea how to describe genie and secret vids: (jokes) genie will be like watching a soap opera which lasted many seasons trade secret vids will be like watching a 3 parts LOTR movie genie will be like a modern couple courtships, which will last for years before marriage and have high chance of divorce trade secret will be like caveman courtship cartoon. by instinct, WHam, Bang the head(with wood club), drag home and Start producing kids genie will be like toking from a old couple or toking to ur grandparents. tons of wisdom but naggy however "House with an OLD = Gold" Jia You Yi Lao ru You Yi Bao trade secret will be like toking to a middle age man. less wisdom but less naggy and straight to point. Genie will be like "7 habits of highly effective ppl" Trade secret will be like "How to win and influence ppl" |
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cashiertan
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13-Dec-2007 12:58
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mani, sorri if i offended u in my earlier post, i based it on 2 things: 1. if after reading the ebook can i trade if i am given a chart 2.if it is pratical i guess many of the forumers are losing money in these turbulence time, some even lost the easy money they made during the win win bull times thus i believe they just need some pratical guidebook which they can change their trading straight away. i am different from most here, i started with forex and dip into stocks whereas most started with stocks. genie to me is like jack of all trade master of none. 1st 2 chapters lots of air. however i does admit the noobs will benefit alot from this as it will set them the right theory and the right thinking straight away and avoid losing much $. master trader's bonus are better in term of the step by step guide to trade. secret trading vids are better as it teaches and showed u how a real trader trade, find entry and exit. basically, what i think is genie is good to have for reading. i wouldnt regret reading it as it has much wisdom in it. but as a pratical trader, i think secret trading vids is better for intermediate traders or abv. personally i think for general ppl. if let say if after reading genie or secret vids i ask the pax to trade straight away, i think one that read only genie will not be able to trade the market well straight away whereas the one that watch trade secret vids only will be able to trade better stragiht away. conclusion: if let say i am to send a recruit to tekong for basic trading training, i will play genie and follow up with secret vids or master trader's bonus. if war is just the front, i will play secret vids only. if really wanna go for commando or ranger or technician training, i guess all the 3 ebooks , genie, secret vids, master traders are just abv recruit level only. however, i prefer this as KISS: Keep It Simple Stupid is good enough and usually the best methods for trading for general ppl. even seasoned traders think so. conclusion: if budget is no problem, get all 3. if budget or time constraint, get secret vids (preffered) or master trader' bonus 1st. |
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Manikamaniko.
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13-Dec-2007 10:20
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A word about training... People would not go golfing without learning about the game first. Same with bowling. People hope (and think) they can easily do a Hole-In-1... or strike that spare... on first playing. In the stock market, the total novice or new player may strike it on the first punt... and make a lot of luck $$$... that has happened to many people, especially during a roaring bull market... that is when any young aunt or aged young uncle can simply whack on any counter and collect their winnings days later. But for those who are serious about trading the stock market for life, education is a must. Getting the "Genie Tutorials" is the ideal way to start. It contains great teachings on TA (Technical Analysis) too. And it is future-proof in that if you later want to trade options, it shows how to do that too. There is no need to buy many books. This package is really 'many books in one'. And it is lovingly written for you too... I love this package...
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Manikamaniko.
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13-Dec-2007 09:59
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TabbyKat's idea is excellent... :) For those who really have no time to do the printing chore, going to the shops is a good alternative and, like she said, cheaper too. But if you do that, my advice is that you must ask the shop girl to print them out in 10 modules, ie the 10 tutorials are to be printed and bound separately into 10 separate items. This is important, as it will help you in future handling of the course. Remember, you may be using this 'virtual mentor' for the rest of your trading life (it is sufficient for this purpose), so make sure you do this, unless you are not particular about this. Then you can do it any way you prefer... hehehe...
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tabbykat
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13-Dec-2007 09:39
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Hi Goldfish & others, I prefer to read on-line. However, if I need to print any document, I will save them and send them to the shop for printing & binding. Maybe you can try that. Katong Shopping Centre has a few shops that provide laser printing service in addition to photocopying service. Last I know, the charge for binding is $2.50 per set. Overall cost may be about 40% more than if you print them yourself. Try it, let your money work for you and happy reading. Cheers |
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Manikamaniko.
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13-Dec-2007 08:58
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For convenience, below is the list of all the products which I recommend in this thread... 1."The Genie Tutorials". This 10-part ebook is excellent for use as a life-time guide or 'virtual mentor' for those who wish to own a complete manual for successful stock market play. 2."The Master Trader". This package comes with many bonus items which the more advanced trader will relish with delightful interest! 3."The Way To Trade". Another great trading guide for aspiring traders to widen their trading perspective. 4."Trade Secrets Video Program". An excellent product for those who prefer watching a visual presentation of trading teachings. There you have it... no need to scroll high and low for a particular recommended product...
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Manikamaniko.
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13-Dec-2007 08:55
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Cashier... :) Thank you for your very frank and valuable views about the few products... Regarding the "Genie Tutorials", to you (an advanced trader), it may be kid's stuff... :) And I must agree with you that it may be 'much too over-hyped' ... but all for a good reason... I so ardently singled out this product to recommend to market players simply because, having bought so many (hundreds) of books and material about the stock market in so many years, this is the first time I see something that really makes me excited. This is because I am inclined to think in terms of it's excellent style of presentation and usefulness to the average trader, especially those who have been trading with little success. To me, the contents are not just theory. To think otherwise is the ultimate mistake. It's contents are a godsend. This is why it is so important that one internalises the teachings in the tutorials in order not to lose too much money in the stock market...
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cashiertan
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13-Dec-2007 05:08
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have rcvd from 4 pax their transfer and have send the link to them, enjoy the pratical experience u going to get. there is no free bonus as i didnt rcvd another from them at all. not even a email. Pls note: do not send me any request for the package. the sharing is closed for my side. kindly arrange another if needed. |
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cashiertan
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13-Dec-2007 02:27
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I have done the downloading of the Trade Secret package. transaction ID: 6M033454F5381823K will send the link for those whom i confirmed the orders with once i rcvd ur transfer. Below msg may be sensitive but i just mean what i feel, what is "good" to me maybe other's poison Personally i think genie is over hyped. (sorri mani) 1st few chapters maybe good to read coz of the "words of wisdoms" but not for those who wanna trade profitably quickly. also i find the trading strategy of little value and education to me. u will find better ones at stockschart.com's free school sections. but i give it credit for compiling a few trading books psychology and philosophy into one ebook for easier reference. as i have genie, master trader and trade secret vids. i personally will rank (in terms of usefulness) 1) trade secrets (more practical and easier to learn as u waych vids, hard fight bte master trader or this. choose this becoz of the vids) 2)master trader (the main ebook is quite useless, i think the free bonus is of more value than master trader ebook) 3)genie (maybe good theorist or real noobs and to keep it for occasional reading, when u feel down and need some hype) conclusion: if really want to have a better packages, i suggest getting for trade secret for more pratical trading, it cost more than the other 2 ebooks for a reason , i think |
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goldfish
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13-Dec-2007 01:16
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Hi Manikamaniko Ok, thank you. Good nite |
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Manikamaniko.
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13-Dec-2007 01:03
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Goldfish... :) This product is not sold in physical form... so the only way you can have it is to buy it digital and print it out. But since you are not familiar with the process, it may be better for you to ask around and see if anyone can make a hard copy for you... |
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goldfish
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13-Dec-2007 00:42
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Hi Manikamaniko Is it possible for them to send me the hard copy instead of I downloading and print it from the computer? rgd |
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Manikamaniko.
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13-Dec-2007 00:33
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The free mini-courses are actually appetizers which will eventually lead one to buy the main product (and possibly many other products too). And being incomplete and introductory lessons, their benefit is dubious... Particularly for the Genie Tutorials, in view of it's value, I would recommend a purchase be made..
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Kensonic77
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13-Dec-2007 00:20
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Hi, Why don't you sign up for the free course and see how it goes... Regards |
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