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elfinchilde
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10-Mar-2007 19:04
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violin and viola almost the same, just that range for the latter is lower. that why its sound is closer to human voice. Violin has upper registers that viola can't play. Also in a different key: alto clef (or is it tenor), not treble as violin. If you can play the violin you can play the viola. if you're new and fingers soft, strings are likely to cut you for the first few times tho. bleeding fingers. yahoo group... altho not very nice to lah, as long as SJ's free, we don't gotta go elsewhere wat...most girls are not gonna organise stuff and all that 'cos that means we havta give our email out in a public forum.....very public, if you look at the viewership of this Fellowship thread. o_0 |
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elfinchilde
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10-Mar-2007 18:55
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dancing. try salsa. more structure but sufficiently fluid. great for interaction too. used to do it but stopped a year ago. too many hum sup men ard. ahaha. and yes, you can join solo or in pairs. They rotate among dif partners anw. Logic's 'cos if you're a good dancer, you can dance with anyone. |
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elfinchilde
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10-Mar-2007 18:50
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venting frustrations: as long as you don't go beating up children, women and small animals, i think it's valid lah.... and which reminds me, who's eating dogs here?!!! arggghhhhh!!! Not the puppies, not the puppies!!! :((((((( wehhhhh..... |
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elfinchilde
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10-Mar-2007 18:48
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if it's beginners lesson it's only abt 120-160 per month. yes, it is very timeconsuming tho, esp if you wanna be good at it. I used to practice everyday. so do think twice. you can get cheapo pianos for under 1k (look under used goods in the classifieds), but i don't guarantee their quality. If you've plonked before, you'll know the dif btwn a good and a bad piano. Keyboard's better option. ooh the viola's lovely. the closest instrument to the human voice. very warm sound. :))) i think the strings are more difficult than the piano tho! you need very good tonal pitching since there are no frets like on the guitar to indicate where the right note is. and like, niama, my hands too small, so i can't play guitar either. the appropriately named F chord is out of my reach. *curses* Act, why not the guitar???? quite fun wat. can entertain ppl at functions too. haha. easier to learn also. cheaper too. i saw some gits going for $88 at the esplanade before.... i don't club also wat. |
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elfinchilde
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10-Mar-2007 18:34
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eh pai seh. typo error. i meant 'dancing'. and erm. asterisk, do i know you in real life? |
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elfinchilde
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10-Mar-2007 18:22
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giantlow! welcome back!!! :)))))) stay out of warrants hor.....keke. asterisk, i was actually thinking of a yahoo groups. hope the admin of SJ is wiser than that tho.... no, not difficult to. all depends on interest... sure your fingers might be stiff at the start, but with practice, anything can be learnt. :) it helps in venting frustrations. i can personally vouch for that. haha. Might be good to buy a keyboard first tho, pianos are expensive. So at least if you lose interest you can sell off the keyboard for more. I have both a piano and a DGX keyboard--highly recommend the latter, you can have headphones on so you don't disturb the neighbours. Plus it comes with all sorts of cool functions so you can play with beats, change instruments halfway, etcetc. damn cool. :))) Sound-wise it's one of the top range for keyboards. Weighted keys, full keyboard range, proper piano sound (others can sound tinny). other musical instruments: drums. damn cool. haha. :P easier too, if you're rhythmically inclined. plus, i'd think just banging away would really help vent frustrations. i don't guarantee the frustrations doesn't go to your neighbours tho. bwah haaha. oh, be warned that as with all instruments, the piano esp needs lots of practice. I started learning when i was 3 yrs old. Stopped formal lessons a long time ago tho, and haha, think i enjoy it more without the burden of grades and exams. You can look for private classes with yamaha or kawai, or private instructors. private might be better, since you can tailor it. they have pop courses, jazz piano etcetc too. I'd like to learn jazz piano actually...right now i'm just whacking based on hearing alone. ahaha. you guy or girl? if girl, take edancing. more fun. helps confidence and poise too. :) |
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elfinchilde
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10-Mar-2007 18:14
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hi baseerahmed, no prob. The higher highs/lower lows thing was taught to me by kilroy, really. (thank you kilroy!) and ask away, that's the only way to learn. i'm sure i'll be learning from you someday. :) higher highs/lower lows: apologies i have no charts to post. But if you were to imagine a stock's price over a period of say 1 mth: let's call it stock X: X hits a peak of $2 on week 1. Week 2 dips to $1.50. Week 3 hits $2.5. Week 4 dips to $1.8. That's a 'higher high, higher low' scenario: 2nd peak and 2nd low is higher than the 1st peak/low. Generally regarded as a bullish sign, on uptrend. You can see it on almost any stock for the past few months. I recommend you look at ho bee and allgreen from mid jan onward to before this correction as an eg. (we'll ignore the other indicators for sake of discussion). A lower high, lower low can be guessed. Briefly: Week 1 = $2. Week 2 = $1.5 Week 3 = $1.8 Week 4 = $1 Basically, the second peak is lower than the 1st, and the 2nd low is lower than the 1st. That's a sign of downtrend. especially dangerous if the second low breaks below its support level. It's your signal to cut and run. But for a defensive strategy, firstly you need to pick GOOD stocks that have at least dividend yield to back them up, as well as sufficient history of payouts and earnings. So only the blues for me. I'm actually opting for a kinda contrarian stance here: by advocating buying in when the stock dips (lower highs and lower lows), i'm actually betting on a recovery. Which i can do so because of the backing by the high dividend (eg, STE div's 15c, means i can afford a paper drop to 3.11 before it's a loss from its current price), and sufficient funds in pocket. As well as historical price/vol which shows recovery is certain for such counters. (don't try this on pennies, you're likely to haemorrhage). Pls note that you wouldn't just buy on any downturn/upswing too. o/w you're likely buying every other day. haha. There'll be specific strike points you can look at to enter. Roughly abt px of dividend is a good gauge. The last part of it (higher highs higher lows) means a rebound is in progress already, so you average up less since buying more would erode profit. Hope this is clear? :) |
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baseerahmed
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10-Mar-2007 17:33
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Hi elfinchilde , I am very awed by ur analytical posting , the fluidity of your thoughts and dissection of the information. I am very new to TA and I have almost a mental block with understanding the "higher highs, lower lows etc concept ". No matter how many times I try, I just can't seem to get it...could u please kindly explain (with diagrams , if possible) the part of ur posting today : "higher highs lower lows principle" , " as it gets lower lows and lower highs", "starts higher lows and higher highs " .. I hope I am not trying ur patience with this very ,otherwise, a 'simple' concept. |
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giantlow
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10-Mar-2007 17:18
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hey hey i heard my favourite elf calling.... the giant has been awaken!!! |
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elfinchilde
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10-Mar-2007 17:02
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singaporegal! *hugs* my oasis of rationality.... keke. gonna take any punt next week, or sitting out? keke. btw, just to correct the misperception: giantlow was the one who started the fellowship thread. Credit is his, not mine. How are you, anyway? Loss is ok, but come, yea? It's just money, and that can always be earned. *patpat* smile! :))))) |
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elfinchilde
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10-Mar-2007 16:58
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chinkiasu, can't see half of your emoticons actually.... sporeguy--the most impt qn, apologies for the belated response as i've been on course. My current strat for march and april mirrors yours (TA on FA strat). so outlined below is my dream portfolio for these few months, which i unfortunately can't do 'cos don't have the funds to. if anyone follows it and makes $$ and wanna buy me some diamonds etc, lemme know. ahahhaa. On defensive portfolio: 1) need to note that defensive stocks does not equate a defensive strategy of playing. Defensive stocks, we know them like the back of our hands, smrt, st engg, semb corp etcetc, needs no repeating. Defensive strategy, however, is different. 2)The 'buy on dip' philo is in operation for March and April. But specifically, you do not buy on downtrend 'cos that's anticipating the trend. You need to buy on the upswing following each down. 3) therefore, funds need to be divided up carefully. Unlike TA, i wouldn't buy all at one shot. Would split up to do dollar cost averaging (DCA). The higher highs lower lows principle is in operation, but reverse: start by buying small lots since it's early days now, as it gets lower lows and lower highs, buy more. Til it starts higher lows and higher highs, average up less. Logic for this: 'cos market is volatile range-bound, not a straightforward downward correction. so the final dip is impossible to predict. Hedge against both up and downswings by DCA. 4) The stocks i would eye for this: UIC. OCBC. STE. Capland/Kepland. Starhub. note i didn't just hum-tum the stocks. they're selected for both potential upside AND dividend. not so simple as just select high divvy stocks. some high divvy stocks are likely rangebound or down for march/april, alt have negative sentiment. I've also selected across industries so as to hedge against the overconcentration risk which i'm taking by selecting only 5 counters. (ie, diversify via industry so as to concentrate via no: of stocks). Also note the majority shareholders of the counters i'm selecting. haha. I believe you're eyeing/vested in SC and ste? :P Word of caution: stocks have been rerated. the latest TP for STE is 3.50 (by DBS, 7th or 8th march). However, given its current price and divvy yield of 15c, that's still upside of 35c possible. 10% gain and above is my target for all the counters. note as always: caveat emptor. This is MY call, make your own. Note too that this strat is for the patient people with deep pockets. If you've less than 6 figs in the market, or are likely to twitch at every downturn, likely to be difficult to pull this off. happy trading! :) |
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elfinchilde
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10-Mar-2007 16:42
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fwah lau. not online for two days so many posts. CMI....(cannot make it)....i'll reply to the work ones (ie, related with stocks) firstly: argh! this is NOT the SDU! am i the only one focused on the market here?! sheesh.... :P l_tan, no problem with other topics, that's what the fellowship is for, anyway. However, i would like to make a request to the male forumers here to steer clear of more salacious topics tho (like the sex shops of amsterdam etc)....this is a public forum after all. thank you! and ah. why did you choose to panic sell all your AG after holding it for so long? hehe. hope this doesn't kill you, but likely to go up on monday. hehe. altho really. once you've sold, don't look back. there are always lots of boats, and lots of missed ones. have no hangups whatsoever, and you'll make in hte long run. da gege, saw your posts on Starcruises. I posted there once, but will not post there again. Quite simply, all the FA and TA in the world cannot fight against hope--We know what the call for that is; i posted mine when it was 41c, and i maintain same call. But let it alone, you cannot fight hope. As investors tho, what we can do is to learn, both by example and disexample. Quite simply, we don't have to be right all the time; sometimes, human relationships matter more. and more importantly, you can only help ppl who want to be helped. Guess i'm cruel that way. adrianpang, yes, i'd like to hear your story too. It'd be good learning experience for all of us, if you don't mind sharing? :) ipunter, TA or FA really doesn't matter much to me. what matters is the reality of the market. If TA (charts or indicators or wahtever) work, i take it. If it's a volatile ranging market like now, I'm using TA on FA strat. Essentially, i'm a realist. Not in love with any method or style or whatever. |
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chinkiasu
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10-Mar-2007 16:14
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or perhaps Auntie..you are still seeing double bunnies  ????
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chinkiasu
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10-Mar-2007 16:12
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 uncle & auntie...you r are missed....
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chinkiasu
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10-Mar-2007 16:04
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I think I may not be clear re my thots to Ipunter, so I append below the background of Solomon: As the ultimate hedonist, King Solomon (supposed to be the wisest man) was the perfect test case for whether the philosophy of hedonism has any value. Solomon pursued every pleasure (he actually has at least 1,000 concubines) --he did not just simply let pleasure happen to him. Solomon wanted to determine if the pursuit of pleasure is the key to happiness. He chased after ordinary, wholesome, and even wicked pleasures, all in a comprehensive experiment to determine whether any aspect of pursuing pleasure had lasting value. He finally concluded: I said to myself, "Come now, I will test you with pleasure. So enjoy yourself." And behold, it too was futility. I said of laughter, "It is madness," and of pleasure, "What does it accomplish?" I explored with my mind how to stimulate my body with wine while my mind was guiding me wisely, and how to take hold of folly, until I could see what good there is for the sons of men to do under heaven the few years of their lives. I enlarged my works: I built houses for myself, I planted vineyards for myself; I made gardens and parks for myself and I planted in them all kinds of fruit trees; I made ponds of water for myself from which to irrigate a forest of growing trees. I bought male and female slaves and I had homeborn slaves. Also I possessed flocks and herds larger than all who preceded me in Jerusalem. Also, I collected for myself silver and gold and the treasure of kings and provinces. I provided for myself male and female singers and the pleasures of men--many concubines. Then I became great and increased more than all who preceded me in Jerusalem. My wisdom also stood by me. All that my eyes desired I did not refuse them. I did not withhold my heart from any pleasure, for my heart was pleased because of all my labor and this was my reward for all my labor. Thus I considered all my activities which my hands had done and the labor which I had exerted, and behold all was vanity and striving after wind and there was no profit under the sun. "Vanity of vanities," says the Preacher, "all is vanity!" In addition to being a wise man, the Preacher also taught the people knowledge; and he pondered, searched out and arranged many proverbs. The Preacher sought to find delightful words and to write words of truth correctly. The words of wise men are like goads, and masters of these collections are like well-driven nails; they are given by one Shepherd. But beyond this, my son, be warned: the writing of many books is endless, and excessive devotion to books is wearying to the body. |
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chinkiasu
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10-Mar-2007 15:14
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thanks Shplayer sir, for your concern... but you would note that actually, I did not made the posts and it would appear you may be missing the point... we are having some just having some fun  clowning..
however having said that I believe our elf has a very open mind... no, I dont think she is in a mood to go to Crystal Mirror, I suspect she is having some personal internal problems/issues that she has to resolve and would want to have her space, at least for the next few days.. we will just have to wait for her to get over it... 
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chinkiasu
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10-Mar-2007 14:57
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yes Ipunter, you are a wise man... I agree absolutely... the good book talks about Solomon who "All that my eyes desired I did not refuse them. I did not withhold my heart from any pleasure" yet having gone through it "Thus I considered all my activities which my hands had done and the labor which I had exerted, and behold all was vanity and striving after wind and there was no profit under the sun. (Ecclesiastes 2:11)" |
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shplayer
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10-Mar-2007 14:50
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chinkiasu, Aiyoh.......all your posts about aphrodisiac.......you gonna frighten off my mei mei. Actually, I was gonna suggest you invite elfie to the Crystal Mirror Dinner....you know...as a date??? If she reads your recent posts, she may be apprehensive about accepting it.. |
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chinkiasu
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10-Mar-2007 14:40
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hi, geojam sir... is that really so....?? .........................................................  what if....
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iPunter
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10-Mar-2007 14:19
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Chinkiasu... Actually, I don't go for such things... and thoughts of people going to great lengths, (eg. eating lizard gall bladders, "san pian" or animal phalluses, soups, etc and other exotic stuff) in pursuit of greater and greater physical pleasure does not appeal to me. |
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