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ten4one Master	21-Oct-2008 16:24        ten4one About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Very true. The Asian Financial Crisis took 19 mths to recover and the Dot Com Bubble tooke between 16 mths and 32 mths (sorry for the transpose error in previous posting). This one I figure would take another 21 mths more b4 the next run. Cheers!
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zillion Member	21-Oct-2008 15:06        zillion About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	while daily fluctuations will cause many hearts beating faster and slower, the true trend of the whole picture for any bull to bear takes at least 18 months to work out the excesses.
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ten4one Master	21-Oct-2008 10:16        ten4one About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	One good news is when all the cleanings are done and the Market consolidates and stabilizes; it shall come back much stronger! Cheers!
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TuaPekGong9413 Elite	20-Oct-2008 11:32        TuaPekGong9413 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "deity"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	ang mo loves to spend...chinese loves to save...in the end...chinese savings kana sucked by ang mo spending...  :(
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takecover Member	19-Oct-2008 20:52        takecover About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Now only stage two ending still not in sight. teeth53      ( Date: 19-Oct-2008 11:24) Posted: As what S'pore can guarantee $150bil till yr 2010 for all depositories here. US fear of recession all dur to sub-prime woes and it CDO has slump US further in deeper recession. Waening sign been posted since Jun 2007 till now. It take a yr to reach and has gone through stage three, credit cruching , and a few weeks into Stage four of credit melting  U think lohh.
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teeth53 Supreme	19-Oct-2008 11:24        teeth53 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	As what S'pore can guarantee $150bil till yr 2010 for all depositories here. US fear of recession all dur to sub-prime woes and it CDO has slump US further in deeper recession. Waening sign been posted since Jun 2007 till now. It take a yr to reach and has gone through stage three, credit cruching , and a few weeks into Stage four of credit melting  U think lohh.
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ten4one Master	19-Oct-2008 10:53        ten4one About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	May be a historical perspecctive from previous crashes, namely The Black Monday of 1987, The Asian Financial Crisis of 1997 and the Dot Com Bubble of 2000 could provide a guide for the end of the current crisis. The Black Monday lasted a short period from Aug-Dec 87 (4mths) The Asian Financial Crisis lasted about 19 mths (Mar'97-Sep98) The Dot Com Crash lasted between 16 mths (Sep98-Jun00) and 23 mths till end 2001. The STI was down from Oct07 to now is about 11 mths and therefore, at the best we should see STI will take another 8 mths (19-11 mths) before it starts a new cycle. The worst senerio, it would take STI at least 21 mths (32-11 mths) b4 the next run up. Of course, all this is just an historical perspective and with the view that History will repeat itself. Cheers!
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cyjjerry85 Elite	17-Oct-2008 04:12        cyjjerry85 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Technical   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Just saw on MoneyCNN.com not long ago..thought u guys might be interested after so much pessimism...well, reports/analysts can always still go wrong in today's market where no TA or FA seem good to use...  Are stocks cheap yet?
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Andrew Master	17-Oct-2008 00:42        Andrew About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I read from somewhere, the actual recession usually last about 3~6months....that why pple look very close on the term technical recession. But for the recovery effect to propagate to the rest of the economy, it takes about another 6~12month. And looking at that 3~6 months analyst will be able to estimate the recovery time and strength .....
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cyjjerry85 Elite	17-Oct-2008 00:21        cyjjerry85 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Technical   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Goldman was also the one who predicted that oil will shoot up to $150 then $200 very soon this year right? knightbridge      ( Date: 17-Oct-2008 00:08) Posted: Oct 16 - Goldman Sachs Cohen: in late winter, early spring, economy will start to look better - CNBC
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knightbridge Veteran	17-Oct-2008 00:08        knightbridge About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Oct 16 - Goldman Sachs Cohen: in late winter, early spring, economy will start to look better - CNBC
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knightbridge Veteran	16-Oct-2008 17:33        knightbridge About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Share market on property usually reflect 6mth earlier that the actual property of singapore. Judging at the fall in the property stock, we are looking at a very bleak property price in singapore that my assumption. Properties stock price is like the 2004 crisis, at 2004 the property of singapore very cheap de. Holder of property will define try to hold the last line of defence against the price drop. They take loan to buy, is like buying stock on margin. If property price fall hard, will bank need them to top up colleteral?? i am curious whether what the bank will do if properties price plunge 20% to 30% in singapore. Developers turn caution, not buying land . Selling start dropping. Showroom becoming empty. Rental yield coming down. Cost cutting taking place. Real estate agent going to resign cus no sales no commission mean no income. Haiz so much gloomy picture.
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des_khor Supreme	16-Oct-2008 17:00        des_khor About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Tell me who is the God or MFT from this forum??"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	don't know ... just feel that now full with lobang in share market except property haven't come down !
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cheongwee Elite	16-Oct-2008 16:57        cheongwee About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The US housing problem give rise to all the current crises, so i think the housing got stablize first before we can call a bottom...and the bottom got another 20 to 30% from here according to expert...so i think asnother at least i guess 3 yrs and abv..my guess only.
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knightbridge Veteran	16-Oct-2008 15:38        knightbridge About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I view same going to be hard for US to recover fast i think. Living without Car in US unthinkable, how to travel from place to place. American got to learn how to ride bicycle i guesss. This crisses, will help the fat americans to lose weight, a little good new for them
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Andrew Master	16-Oct-2008 15:29        Andrew About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I heard that in US, trying to get car loan is difficult.  Yahoo also tell a story of a young couple trying to buy a second hand car for 8K.  Dealer say must put down 1K deposit, couple only got 200 buck. Used to be zero down payment, buy first talk later. In the end, couple put down their last 200 and walk off to find the rest of the 800. The moral of the story : a) How many times pple have said that you need to put down deposit, so that lender are protected. b) Bad spending habit, if I only have 200, I will probably want to use it for food perhaps. Of course, two third of the US Econmy is spending based......so...spend to protect jobs..... c) Even car loan cannot get,  I think US economy is going into the deep recession......
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knightbridge Veteran	16-Oct-2008 15:15        knightbridge About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	So hard to guage where this is going lead to. I keep telling myself to have patience. I kept some cash waiting to go in the market. So far no sign to say it is alright to go in. waiting for the bank of unit trust fund and institution to bank in first. Got a few counter in mind, maybe have to wait until next year before start buying i think. The property shares counters in singapore are hit real hard, but property price drop in singapore didnt seem to reflect yet. What do you guys think
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knightbridge Veteran	16-Oct-2008 15:03        knightbridge About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hope we will not be in the generation to experience this. US Government better start working 24hr round the clock. Save US Save the World. lol
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jasonfaxingliu Senior	16-Oct-2008 10:42        jasonfaxingliu About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I am sure many understand and anticipated that the bubble will burse sooner or later when US economy is heavily depending on spending where the rest of the wrold are exporting. Unless China and India (where they are sizeable economy) spin up domestic spending otherwise, world economy doesn't look.
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AK_Francis Supreme	16-Oct-2008 09:27        AK_Francis About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood: Yells: "Happy go lucky, cheers."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	ha ha 1930 great depression. how folks on the street feel ah! how bad the living standard was, round the world. Like the state of Zambawee now? must get those now 78+21=99 yrs old folk to tell the story. just can't imagine how bad was that time?
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