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wait4opp
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27-Aug-2013 14:24
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For the BUYERS for now They need to pay 100% of what they buy and wait for the price to determine how much they lost. If it is going to delist. Then there will be a price to them, may be at Par Value. For the SELLERS for now, They are required to pay interest in the CFD Account till the Trade resume if they short thru CFD. For Naked short, $1000 fined will need to pay to CDP. The gain only wait till the trade resume, maybe years. |
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Simpsons
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27-Aug-2013 13:08
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Expect the unexpected as cmz has quite a few big players..
Let's wait for announcement before prouncing the zero value.. |
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SLC888
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27-Aug-2013 13:07
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In my opinion, if the trading not lifted, those CFD trader who have shorted will get maximum profit as the share will be treated as zero value. And for those CFD trader who goes on long, will loose everything and may even need to pay with interest.
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Tomique
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27-Aug-2013 12:52
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The brokerage would not let the shortists go just like that,   as this opens door of money making opportunity for them.   Am sure they will force something on the shortists such as asking them for the shares to give the buyers or " selling them" (buy-in) to cover the position.   Think so, never experienced it, but understand the psyche of Singapore brokerages.   There are no angels.   Maybe those with some experience could let us know.
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stknoob
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27-Aug-2013 12:39
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If suspended forever, the shortist do not need to buy to cover their short position? How about the small time investor that short this share, they do not need to buy back?   |
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Henry$$$
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27-Aug-2013 12:32
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If it suspended forever, shortist are in good profit, depended your CFD market provider. If you long, then no hope. Capital go to ZERO. I think CMZ no much hope since it afraid to resume trading after more than 24 hours. God luck to investor. |
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stknoob
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27-Aug-2013 12:06
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I have some CMZ shares and getting worried. Can some experienced persons answer my following questions : If trading does not resume.   What will happen to the short sellers?   Do they need to buy CMZ and how?  Is there any ways I can sell them my shares to cover their short positions?  Tks  |
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ozone2002
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27-Aug-2013 11:48
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interfact
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27-Aug-2013 11:28
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Halt might not be lifted after all.There is grave concern on fraud.  
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Jackpot2010
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27-Aug-2013 11:15
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Can expect big troubles ahead - Recent syndicated loan of USD150 - 200m may be in jeopardy if Standard Chartered Bank & Citi Group had not disbursed them (not sure) & This will cause other suppliers & lenders to send demand notes etc...leading to its bankruptcy.   1. Term Loan Facility The Board of Directors (the " Board" ) of China Minzhong Food Corporation Limited (the " Company" ) is pleased to announce that it has entered into a syndicated facility agreement dated 6 August 2013 (the " Facility Agreement" ) in respect of a secured term loan facility (the " Facility" ) of up to an aggregate principal amount of US$150 million, the amount of which may be increased to an amount not exceeding US$200 million if the syndication is oversubscribed. The mandated lead arrangers for the Facility are Standard Chartered Bank and Citigroup Global Markets Singapore Pte Ltd. The proceeds of the Facility will be used for general corporate purposes. 2. Rule 704(31) of the SGX-ST Listing Manual Pursuant to Rule 704(31) of the SGX-ST Listing Manual, the Board wishes to announce that under the Facility Agreement, the Company is required to inter alia, prepay the outstanding amounts under the Facility Agreement in the event that PT Indofood Sukses Makmur Tbk ceases to own beneficially, directly or indirectly, at least (i) (subject to paragraph (ii)) 28.99% of the share capital of the Company or (ii) (where PT Indofood Sukses Makmur Tbk ceases to own beneficially, directly or indirectly, at least 28.99% of the share capital of the Company solely and directly due to the exercise of any stock option granted by the Company to any employee or director of the Company or any of its subsidiaries under a properly established and approved employee stock option scheme of the Company existing at the date of the Facility Agreement) 26.397% of the share capital of the Company (the " Loan Covenant" ). As at the date of this announcement, no prepayment pursuant to the Loan Covenant has occurred. As at the date of this announcement other than the Facility that has not been drawn, there are no facilities that may be affected by the Loan Covenant. By Order of the Board Lin Guo Rong Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer 6 August 2013 |
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guoyanyunyan
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27-Aug-2013 11:05
Yells: "uncertainty always exist" |
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Minzhong is the latest target of short sellers betting against Chinese companies trading in markets such as Hong Kong, Singapore and New York, even as five of the six analysts covering the stock recommend buying it. Minzhong is among the 143 China-based firms listed on Singapore?s $967.4 billion stock market at the end of July, according to the exchange. | ||||
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Jackpot2010
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27-Aug-2013 10:56
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Can investors sue Moody's for negligence?   Rating Action:  Moody's assigns first-time Ba3 rating to China Minzhong      Global Credit Research - 08 Mar 2013 Hong Kong, March 08, 2013 -- Moody's Investors Service has assigned Ba3 corporate family and senior unsecured debt ratings to China Minzhong Food Corporation Limited.   At the same time, Moody's has assigned a Ba3 rating to China Minzhong's proposed USD bonds.   This is the first time that Moody's has assigned ratings to China Minzhong.   The outlook for the ratings is stable.   RATINGS RATIONALE   " China Minzhong's Ba3 rating reflects its established business model. It provides a wide range of processed vegetables to overseas markets, shows a track record of food safety and quality assurance, demonstrates improved techniques for cultivation and processing, and offers high-value new products," says Lina Choi, a Moody's Vice President and Senior Analyst.   " China Minzhong is well positioned to grow, supported by the increase in demand for safe and quality vegetables in China," says Choi, who is also the lead analyst for Minzhong.   Steadily growing domestic vegetable consumption is the biggest factor supporting China Minzhong, especially as it has the scale to further expand both in size and in product variety.   In response to multiple negative food safety events in the past two years, the Chinese government has stepped up industry regulation, and encouraged industrialization and consolidation of the industry. These developments provide a favorable environment for China Minzhong to grow its business and reinforce its market position.   " China Minzhong's unique integrated business model -- which encompasses fresh food cultivation and food processing -- also provides flexibility in a sector where product prices may be volatile," says Choi.   " However, the rating is also constrained by the challenges of consistently rising costs in labor, farmland acquisitions and raw materials, which could become material as the company plans to expand its industrialized farming facilities and raise the yield of various mushroom products for the domestic market" , says Choi.   Despite its track record and experience in fresh crop cultivation, China Minzhong's home market in China remains highly fragmented and competitive. Cost inflation is unlikely to abate in the near term, and a strong RMB diminishes its competitiveness in the export business.   China Minzhong is also pursuing the cultivation and processing of high-priced vegetables, such as the king oyster mushrooms, for domestic consumption to achieve new sales and high profit margins to counter the weakness in the European market and the rising cost of production.   This new domestic business demands skill in increasing its customer base and collecting receivables. China Minzhong has to demonstrate that it can execute such new business initiatives and preserve its strong credit metrics -- Adjusted debt/EBITDA should stay at around 1x, while EBITDA/interest should stay well over 6x in the next three years.   China Minzhong has sufficient liquidity. Its operating cash flow of more than RMB1 billion and cash on hand of around RMB300 million will be enough to cover committed capital expenditures and short-term debt.   The stable outlook reflects Moody's expectation that Minzhong will maintain stable revenue streams and profitability from its processed vegetable business with a satisfactory record of product quality and safety. The company is also expected to maintain its current strong credit metrics, while expanding its cultivation capacity and new product investments.   Upward rating pressure is limited in the near term as the company is expanding its domestic business. However, positive rating momentum may arise if the company (1) successfully expands the sales of its high value products, such as organic fresh vegetables and king oyster mushrooms in the local market, thereby providing another stable revenue stream and reducing the impact of lower cost competitiveness in export markets (2) avoids any deterioration in its cash conversion cycle and (3) maintains steady profitability and low debt leverage.   On the other hand, downward rating pressure may arise if the company (1) encounters any product quality and food safety failures which significantly affect its corporate image and businesses (2) fails to maintain stable revenue contributions from its export of processed vegetables, which could result from competition from producers in China, or other low cost countries (3) engages in aggressive capital spending or farmland acquisitions, which pressure its liquidity position and balance sheet strength or (4) its profitability weakens and leverage increases, such that Debt/EBITDA exceeds 4x.   The principal methodology used in this rating was Global Food - Protein and Agriculture Industry Methodology published in September 2009. Please see the Credit Policy page on www.moodys.com for a copy of this methodology.   Listed on the Singapore Stock Exchange in April 2010 and started as a collective enterprise specializing in dehydrated vegetables, China Minzhong Food Corporation Ltd has been operating its vegetable processing business for 40 years. It produces more than 100 types of processed vegetables for customers in 26 countries.   PT Indofood (29.3%) and Franklin Templeton Investments (11.1%) are the two major shareholders with a collective 40.4% ownership. |
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pasttime
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27-Aug-2013 10:45
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hawkeye thanks.  hope this one can settle amicably for all. else nex time no one dare to buy in sgx already. |
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wait4opp
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27-Aug-2013 10:43
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end of the day.......ssssssssssssssssss |
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Tempest
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27-Aug-2013 10:41
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What time the halt be lifted? | ||||
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Hawkeye
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27-Aug-2013 10:22
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If IPO doc is not accurate and misleading then Directors face jail term and counter face delisting. Those who are holding shares will hold till Judgement Day Those who shorted have to buy back from those who are holding the shares. then sell it to them a cut throat price. Just My cents of view. :))
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sharefbb05
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27-Aug-2013 10:16
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Most intersting incident in Singapore boring market | ||||
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pasttime
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27-Aug-2013 10:11
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if ipo doc is not accurate then who is responsible? what about now? if really the sales is inflated then the real number is what ? zero seems like coffee shop talk. the shortist who short then tell story even if not true they also make a pile already. there must be a way to deal with these rouge who are here to profit from the collapse not save it. should be dealt with else no peace in investment/specualtin /gambling as any stock can have a stray bullet like these. |
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pnuklis
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27-Aug-2013 09:54
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wait4opp
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27-Aug-2013 09:52
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CIMA China Minzhong Food - Ceasing coverage (26/8) We share Glaucus Research?s concerns about MINZ?s reliance on capital markets for cash generation and ballooning receivable days. We cease coverage of MINZ, with our last rating being Outperform with a target price of S$1.27 (5x CY14 P/E, its peer average).                |
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