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zedteo Member	28-Sep-2013 23:30        zedteo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Sis luna, mind to share which platform u use which allows you to see md on mobile? I am on ke and can't find the option to view md from mobile. Luna69      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 23:10) Posted: Bro SC, pardon I ask something stupid. So when monitoring the buy sell queue... Do u all open a few MD n watch at one time on PC or just one at a time ? Coz I'm using phone so usu can only watch one at one time n some time also has lag... The slower moving one is easier to catch but when moving very fast... Hard to monitor the buy sell q... Ems when it was thrown down was so fast to 87... Only when it stabilize ard 90-91 then it become clearer... I watch ccm too when u ask us to monitor the md... That was also clearer when it was steady supporting at that range... But when it start to drop or move fast, hard to catch it... Stockcham      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 22:47) Posted: Bro, are you really referring to the queue at MD before market starts? If it is, then the reason is that BBs wants to give retailers an impression that buy queue support no good. So retail buyers may not buy and sellers will likely want to sell. So BBs collec
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Luna69 Senior	28-Sep-2013 23:24        Luna69 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Big buy q small sell q, likely big buy q is a fake buy q... Retailer like us thought they may not be able to get by queuing in the big buy q, so will be trick to buy straight at the sell q... When retailer start to buy up, bb will withdraw the fake buy q n start to sell down n pr will start to drop coz no more big buy q to support ... Same goes like what bro sc explain earlier, when u see big sell q n little buy q, will thought that no one want to buy n everyone want to sell, so if holding on to the stock will also want to sell straight at the buy q or if not holding will not dare to buy coz ... U may want to check back on bro sc theory which is clearer ... dawx14      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 23:07) Posted: Yes bro. But even during the game itself? It also applies right? Then you mentioned the opposite which is big buy queue, small sell queue.. It will go down is it because people won't really want to buy because of the big buy queue? Then because they thought no one selling suddenly all start to sell down and it will be pushed down? Stockcham      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 22:47) Posted: Bro, are you really referring to the queue at MD before market starts? If it is, then the reason is that BBs wants to give retailers an impression that buy queue support no good. So retail buyers may not buy and sellers will likely want to sell. So BBs collec
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zedteo Member	28-Sep-2013 23:24        zedteo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro, what i meant is i applied for sj acct yesterday. JarolLo      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 16:00) Posted: I don't want to influence your emotion since you're so new, but suggest study their financial report and importantly understand what they're doing. zedteo      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 14:48) Posted: Hi All, Am very new here. Just applied an account yesterday and got to see such beneficial   posts from all brothers here. Finally got to understand why prices go down when there seems to be so many more buyers than sellers.   Just to check, will there be chance for Teledata^ to run? and if it runs, will it run up? Sorry for the noob question. Thanks
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zedteo Member	28-Sep-2013 23:22        zedteo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hi sis, thks for the insight! sugeee      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 20:20) Posted: IT seems that teledata will be taken off  the watch list .this MAY result in a px increase But market sentiments play a very big part. Just my 1cts worth Luna69      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 14:05) Posted: Must really learn to b discipline ! Esp now with all the warning of coming correction ... Arghh... Must also tie up all fingers so can't anyhow Cheong n key buy
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Luna69 Senior	28-Sep-2013 23:10        Luna69 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro SC, pardon I ask something stupid. So when monitoring the buy sell queue... Do u all open a few MD n watch at one time on PC or just one at a time ? Coz I'm using phone so usu can only watch one at one time n some time also has lag... The slower moving one is easier to catch but when moving very fast... Hard to monitor the buy sell q... Ems when it was thrown down was so fast to 87... Only when it stabilize ard 90-91 then it become clearer... I watch ccm too when u ask us to monitor the md... That was also clearer when it was steady supporting at that range... But when it start to drop or move fast, hard to catch it... Stockcham      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 22:47) Posted: Bro, are you really referring to the queue at MD before market starts? If it is, then the reason is that BBs wants to give retailers an impression that buy queue support no good. So retail buyers may not buy and sellers will likely want to sell. So BBs collect dawx14      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 22:26) Posted: Bro SC, when u say big sell queue but small buy queue, it will go up because chances are when bb starts to eat their own and sell queue starts to Go down, retailer will follow to eat the sell queue?
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dawx14 Senior	28-Sep-2013 23:07        dawx14 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes bro. But even during the game itself? It also applies right? Then you mentioned the opposite which is big buy queue, small sell queue.. It will go down is it because people won't really want to buy because of the big buy queue? Then because they thought no one selling suddenly all start to sell down and it will be pushed down? Stockcham      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 22:47) Posted: Bro, are you really referring to the queue at MD before market starts? If it is, then the reason is that BBs wants to give retailers an impression that buy queue support no good. So retail buyers may not buy and sellers will likely want to sell. So BBs collect dawx14      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 22:26) Posted: Bro SC, when u say big sell queue but small buy queue, it will go up because chances are when bb starts to eat their own and sell queue starts to Go down, retailer will follow to eat the sell queue?
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Simpsons Veteran	28-Sep-2013 22:59        Simpsons About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	U mean should take profit but became greedy and should cut loss and became fearful of losing..lol
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Sharemythots Member	28-Sep-2013 22:53        Sharemythots About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hi I like the rationale to why this thread is started. Very much everyone appreciated what SC has unselfishly shared with us his teachings accumulated from his years of investing, I feel that that one should also know what kind of player one is, as many a time one's playing style and character can be conflict , and you might ended up losing. I am a very aggressive player and I have not learned from my lesson , am trying to be more discipline , still trying very hard. One example is when my stock run, I will buy more of it and when the game is over, I am still holding on to it.. Wonder if many of you also facing this as well? I hope you will also understand your style before over committing oneself.
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Stockcham Elite	28-Sep-2013 22:47        Stockcham About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro, are you really referring to the queue at MD before market starts? If it is, then the reason is that BBs wants to give retailers an impression that buy queue support no good. So retail buyers may not buy and sellers will likely want to sell. So BBs collect dawx14      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 22:26) Posted: Bro SC, when u say big sell queue but small buy queue, it will go up because chances are when bb starts to eat their own and sell queue starts to Go down, retailer will follow to eat the sell queue? Stockcham      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 21:01) Posted: Before market starts, you will have to see the queue at MD first. If the buy queue at MD is low but the sell queue is high, the chance of moving up is higher. But if you see big buy queue and low sell queue, the chance of moving down is higher. This is for counters which are speculative or recently popular. When the market open, the queue at MD will change. For Albedo, I did not see the queue at MD before market open. Since you said that the buy queue at MD was withdrawn, I guess the buy queue before market open should be big. A few days ago when Otto Marine close at 67. The next moring the buy queue at MD was only a few hundred lots per pip where the sell queue up is in thousands lots. The prie went up. You can try to monitor whether what I said is correct. Of course whatever analysis it may be, it is not 100%.  Can try to see the queue at MD for Oakwell, EMS, Amplefield etc on Monday, and see what's the movement after that. You are right that when the price is going to drop, the buy queue at MD will likely be withdrawn.
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Simpsons Veteran	28-Sep-2013 22:44        Simpsons About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bb is cunning and has a lot of ears so they will definitely have many tricks up their sleeves so cannot sterotyped it.. BB likes to play badminton.. Btw, bro your new thread is for wat purpose?? Peter_Pan      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 22:33) Posted: Maybe they may change strategy lor lol Falcon      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 13:04) Posted: So Bbs also know that everyone cutting their holding? Heh heh
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Sharemythots Member	28-Sep-2013 22:35        Sharemythots About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hi all, am looking at Singhaiyi.. I think all of you might want to take a look as well.. Feel that it was lagged behind that many pennies which have cheonged.. Might be what many of you are saying at Accumulation period. If can buy some to keep for a while, should be able to take some "interest", do not play contra for this.. That's my take , have a good weekend. Currently I have YHM and EMS , just for sharing with everyone .
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Peter_Pan Supreme	28-Sep-2013 22:33        Peter_Pan About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "did you order dunkin' donuts"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Maybe they may change strategy lor lol Falcon      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 13:04) Posted: So Bbs also know that everyone cutting their holding? Heh heh. Peter_Pan      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 11:08) Posted: BBs learnt a lot from this thread also lol
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Luna69 Senior	28-Sep-2013 22:31        Luna69 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Haha... Agree ! These past days.. He usu appear after midnight too haha... Stockcham      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 22:01) Posted: He was usually the last one to end this thread. Like this thread's security guard...lol. Luna69      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 21:52) Posted: bro novice give a feel like he run own business haha... That's y working hr so long n different timing from normal office hr .
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Stockcham Elite	28-Sep-2013 22:28        Stockcham About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro, what you see is correct. The buy queue have not build up to match the sell queue and buyers starts to eat big lots at sell queue. See this scenario better sell straight at buy queue. Using your Ipco as an example....if the buy queue built up to about 40k n buyers start to eat sell queue but it takes a long time to est but still cannot finish, see this better sell also. If the buy queue build up too high compared to the sell queue e.g. 70k vs 40k...see this also better sell. If the counter chiong and come to a stop at a price e.g. 90 n then drop back a few pip, later go up to test 90 again but can't break. ..see this also better sell. When it come to a price and drop back, the 2nd time it tested must break. If it don't break likely won't break liao. Seldom have test 3 times then break one. See this scenario also better sell. Amplefield tested 3-4 times 90 still can't break. If one sell straight away the failure of 2nd attempt, he would have sold at a good price. Huat ah! OngLaiHuat      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 00:23) Posted: Wow bro SC, this is really the true world of penny trading. Really appreciate your insight. Every detail you wrote is really what I see. I can't contribute much but I saw something that happen to ipco which really dictates the way you wrote. When I saw the bbs eating up a massive sell queue for eg, 0.043 -0.044 , buy queue is originally 20000 sell queue 40000. They were eating the sell queue by 5k , 2k, 1k, 4k, etc. then I saw the storm build up. The buy queue from 20000 become 35000. Then I know si Liao, bb A munching and getting ready to dump one short to BB B at buy queue. True enough split second 25k buy queue vanish and they dump 10k at 1 pip down. Cos as retailers you keep watching the sell Lana eaten then you panick want buy scared no more left. But the real thing to watch is the buy queue storm that is building up. Dono my theory true or not lol but seen quite a few scenario on micro pennies. Huat ah!
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dawx14 Senior	28-Sep-2013 22:26        dawx14 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro SC, when u say big sell queue but small buy queue, it will go up because chances are when bb starts to eat their own and sell queue starts to Go down, retailer will follow to eat the sell queue? Stockcham      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 21:01) Posted: Before market starts, you will have to see the queue at MD first. If the buy queue at MD is low but the sell queue is high, the chance of moving up is higher. But if you see big buy queue and low sell queue, the chance of moving down is higher. This is for counters which are speculative or recently popular. When the market open, the queue at MD will change. For Albedo, I did not see the queue at MD before market open. Since you said that the buy queue at MD was withdrawn, I guess the buy queue before market open should be big. A few days ago when Otto Marine close at 67. The next moring the buy queue at MD was only a few hundred lots per pip where the sell queue up is in thousands lots. The prie went up. You can try to monitor whether what I said is correct. Of course whatever analysis it may be, it is not 100%.  Can try to see the queue at MD for Oakwell, EMS, Amplefield etc on Monday, and see what's the movement after that. You are right that when the price is going to drop, the buy queue at MD will likely be withdrawn. novice_trader      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 10:48) Posted: Btw bro Stockcham, sometimes if there is only one big buy queue and huge row of sell queues, think shows it's going to fall right? I saw that in Albedo on Friday. Before the sell down, the price goes up to show there is buying going on, then suddenly at 0.069 (I'm queuing to sell 0.071), I realize the buy queue suddenly disappearing at 0.067, 0.068, left onl 0.069.... Can see a path down... I withdrawn sell order but too late, in a flash drop to 0.061. Waw I almost pee in my pants.... Key sell order also no use, too fast... Only sell at 0.064... Worst double sell....hahaha. The market depth is useful and also now I find the Time Sales important as well.... Hope next week will be better week for all of us... Huat ah!!!
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RacingTurtle Member	28-Sep-2013 22:22        RacingTurtle About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	even trading houses have analysts dedicated at looking at different counters. if you can find like-minded traders within the forum, i encourage you to trade with them and spread out the work on TA/FA.  Stockcham      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 22:05) Posted: You are right bro! Anyone can just make a call if they see any movement. We really cannot monitor all. Once that's movement, look out ythe chart and see whether it is on the uptrend. If it is, keep inside the watch list and wait for another round. Thanks for sharing bro! Huat ah! RacingTurtle      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 21:52) Posted: I don't post much, but always appreciate the insights which Bro SC shares. After the last gathering(which I did not attend) this thread has gotten a lot quieter. I don't think that its a bad thing, and as SC mentioned, its our own money we are investing. We have to do our own due diligence and not just wait for calls for entry and exit and which counters to look out for. Its always good to have someone trigger a counter that has activity picking up as its hard to monitor the entire market, but please don't enter any trade blindly just base on forum calls or whatsapp chat group calls. Be responsible for our own trading, it will definitely come result in more gains than losses.
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dawx14 Senior	28-Sep-2013 22:15        dawx14 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro SC, thanks for the teaching. I think next week we can try apply this theory on the counters we are looking or have on hand. In that way, more discussion about our findings!
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Simpsons Veteran	28-Sep-2013 22:11        Simpsons About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	During friday sold down for pennies, can lookout and observe using bro sc theory on the top 30 volumes that still trend up against the sold down.. This is one way to understand this technique as there are strength in these stocks and see for yourself the theory and understand the pattern..there may be some variation but monitor and watch is definitely a win win in trading..
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ballball Master	28-Sep-2013 22:09        ballball About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro Ace333 has many fans, mostly are zha bo. When one is at sifu lvl will sure have many fans. Just like your goodself. Huat ah! Stockcham      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 21:54) Posted: Sis, I know you. You likes be bro ace333 posting. He is a very good player. You can learn a lot from him. That day you said I sounds funny because I said I'm happy to see big sell queue. Now you understand liao right why I'm happy. ..lol. Come here more often. You are most welcome. Huat ah. ballball      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 21:28) Posted: M very touched aft reading bro sc long post. i m new in this thread, i will try to be an independent player. I only more familar w Bro Ace333 style n habit. Every sifu has their unique style. Pardon if i m asking dumb q in my posts.
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Stockcham Elite	28-Sep-2013 22:05        Stockcham About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You are right bro! Anyone can just make a call if they see any movement. We really cannot monitor all. Once that's movement, look out ythe chart and see whether it is on the uptrend. If it is, keep inside the watch list and wait for another round. Thanks for sharing bro! Huat ah! RacingTurtle      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 21:52) Posted: I don't post much, but always appreciate the insights which Bro SC shares. After the last gathering(which I did not attend) this thread has gotten a lot quieter. I don't think that its a bad thing, and as SC mentioned, its our own money we are investing. We have to do our own due diligence and not just wait for calls for entry and exit and which counters to look out for. Its always good to have someone trigger a counter that has activity picking up as its hard to monitor the entire market, but please don't enter any trade blindly just base on forum calls or whatsapp chat group calls. Be responsible for our own trading, it will definitely come result in more gains than losses.
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