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OCEANUS is 'a potential takeover target'?
hotokee
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21-Feb-2011 14:23     
 
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 Alert Admin 		I sold on Friday when I looked at the chart.   Shorted 10 lots and waiting to buy back borrowed stocks.
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Hulumas
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21-Feb-2011 13:58     
 
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 Alert Admin 		That is why I sell my holding in the first place! Oceanus FA changes into negative prospect, at least for the next two years, due to all food sector prices inflation!

krisluke      ( Date: 21-Feb-2011 12:31) Posted:

Oceanus: Has posted profit warning expecting loss for the quarter and substantial decline in net profit for the year 2010, due to a fall in fair value gains of abalones, restaurant losses and higher financing costs
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21-Feb-2011 12:31     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Oceanus: Has posted profit warning expecting loss for the quarter and substantial decline in net profit for the year 2010, due to a fall in fair value gains of abalones, restaurant losses and higher financing costs
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GuavaXF30
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21-Feb-2011 12:12     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Sorry, that's what I mean. Midas better to switch to than keeping Oceanus. Even is have to wait a bit.

Hulumas      ( Date: 21-Feb-2011 12:02) Posted:

Do not get me wrong! I mean only for Oceanus I SELL all my stocks today, and switch buying to other counters!

GuavaXF30      ( Date: 21-Feb-2011 11:53) Posted:

Wise I feel. Better to put your money in your other counter. Even Midas for long term better....
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Hulumas
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21-Feb-2011 12:02     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Do not get me wrong! I mean only for Oceanus I SELL all my stocks today, and switch buying to other counters!

GuavaXF30      ( Date: 21-Feb-2011 11:53) Posted:

Wise I feel. Better to put your money in your other counter. Even Midas for long term better.....

Hulumas      ( Date: 21-Feb-2011 11:50) Posted:

I start selling all my holding, today
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21-Feb-2011 12:01     
 
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I think so too it is better to divest this counter when the signs are all over the wall of a failing company with business strategies that have gone wrong.

Plans to open more resturants but Ah Yat group pulling out and seeing lots of staff turnover when business at the restaurants appears not to be good as well.

Then new business strategies but all experimental and not tested.

Do you really want to stay as a investor with company operating at a loss and no core successful business strategy.

Abalone farming also worries me as is subject to weather conditions and ecological factors.

Hulumas      ( Date: 21-Feb-2011 11:50) Posted:

I start selling all my holding, today!

hotokee      ( Date: 21-Feb-2011 10:01) Posted:

What is the " real" NTA of this shares?   I said " real" because Singapore listed firms directors are too " sly" in giving out information about their companies financials.   Not particularly Oceanus' but many companies are always inaccurate on hindsight evaluations, kind of a way to bluff the public or the officers of the exchange?. Why can't we have an honest society
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21-Feb-2011 11:53     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Wise I feel. Better to put your money in your other counter. Even Midas for long term better.....

Hulumas      ( Date: 21-Feb-2011 11:50) Posted:

I start selling all my holding, today!

hotokee      ( Date: 21-Feb-2011 10:01) Posted:

What is the " real" NTA of this shares?   I said " real" because Singapore listed firms directors are too " sly" in giving out information about their companies financials.   Not particularly Oceanus' but many companies are always inaccurate on hindsight evaluations, kind of a way to bluff the public or the officers of the exchange?. Why can't we have an honest society
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 Alert Admin 		I start selling all my holding, today!

hotokee      ( Date: 21-Feb-2011 10:01) Posted:

What is the " real" NTA of this shares?   I said " real" because Singapore listed firms directors are too " sly" in giving out information about their companies financials.   Not particularly Oceanus' but many companies are always inaccurate on hindsight evaluations, kind of a way to bluff the public or the officers of the exchange?. Why can't we have an honest society?

GuavaXF30      ( Date: 21-Feb-2011 09:47) Posted:



Maybe not  gone case but definitely won t make money this next couple of years. Better to shift funds elsewhere than to leave in cold state.

Anyway, the management  has been trying all kinds of tricks to raise value of shares without success. TDR, investment in  Ah Yat Restaurants, Aust lobster farms, etc. But not interesting enough to raise prices. May not be a good sign as running out of stories to tell now. 
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21-Feb-2011 10:01     
 
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 Alert Admin 		What is the " real" NTA of this shares?   I said " real" because Singapore listed firms directors are too " sly" in giving out information about their companies financials.   Not particularly Oceanus' but many companies are always inaccurate on hindsight evaluations, kind of a way to bluff the public or the officers of the exchange?. Why can't we have an honest society?

GuavaXF30      ( Date: 21-Feb-2011 09:47) Posted:



Maybe not  gone case but definitely won t make money this next couple of years. Better to shift funds elsewhere than to leave in cold state.

Anyway, the management  has been trying all kinds of tricks to raise value of shares without success. TDR, investment in  Ah Yat Restaurants, Aust lobster farms, etc. But not interesting enough to raise prices. May not be a good sign as running out of stories to tell now. 

hotokee      ( Date: 21-Feb-2011 09:41) Posted:

Is this share going to be gone case?   I don't know the background so I dare not buy or short.
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Maybe not  gone case but definitely won t make money this next couple of years. Better to shift funds elsewhere than to leave in cold state.

Anyway, the management  has been trying all kinds of tricks to raise value of shares without success. TDR, investment in  Ah Yat Restaurants, Aust lobster farms, etc. But not interesting enough to raise prices. May not be a good sign as running out of stories to tell now. 

hotokee      ( Date: 21-Feb-2011 09:41) Posted:

Is this share going to be gone case?   I don't know the background so I dare not buy or short.
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 Alert Admin 		Is this share going to be gone case?   I don't know the background so I dare not buy or short.
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Laulan
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21-Feb-2011 09:18     
 
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 Alert Admin 		No wonder they have sold down from 35 cents.   Almost 25% down from last year, and down 42% from its high of abt 45 cents in 2009.

GuavaXF30      ( Date: 21-Feb-2011 07:42) Posted:



Reason for the sinking is out. Oceanus management issues profit warning today in SGX website.

" The board of directors of Oceanus Group Limited (the “

following a preliminary assessment of the financial results for the fourth quarter and full

year ended 31 December 2010, it is expected that the Company and its subsidiaries (the

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2010 compared to that of last year and a loss in the consolidated net results for the fourth

quarter ended 31 December 2010."

Looks like busnesss is not as smooth sailing as investments into the restaurant business is not doing well. Also much of previous profits were dependant on " fair-values" of abalones stocks. That's quite vulnerable.

Board”) would like to announce thatGroup”) will report a decline in the consolidated net profit for the year ended 31 December

Laulan      ( Date: 18-Feb-2011 10:38) Posted:

Heh, Oceanus seems to sink slowly into the Ocean. Sell or buy, any insider?   Hahaha.


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Reason for the sinking is out. Oceanus management issues profit warning today in SGX website.

" The board of directors of Oceanus Group Limited (the “

following a preliminary assessment of the financial results for the fourth quarter and full

year ended 31 December 2010, it is expected that the Company and its subsidiaries (the

“

2010 compared to that of last year and a loss in the consolidated net results for the fourth

quarter ended 31 December 2010."

Looks like busnesss is not as smooth sailing as investments into the restaurant business is not doing well. Also much of previous profits were dependant on " fair-values" of abalones stocks. That's quite vulnerable.

Board”) would like to announce thatGroup”) will report a decline in the consolidated net profit for the year ended 31 December

Laulan      ( Date: 18-Feb-2011 10:38) Posted:

Heh, Oceanus seems to sink slowly into the Ocean. Sell or buy, any insider?   Hahaha.

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Laulan
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 Alert Admin 		Heh, Oceanus seems to sink slowly into the Ocean. Sell or buy, any insider?   Hahaha.
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18-Feb-2011 10:37     
 
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 Alert Admin 		I did not calculate the actual sum, but roughly the profit is abt $450 for 13 lots.

pharoah88      ( Date: 06-Sep-2010 15:02) Posted:

How much did you make from the TDR conversion ?

 



Laulan      ( Date: 06-Sep-2010 11:17) Posted:

Hi, all subscribers to the TDRs should have already got their cheques.  I got mine and am going to buy back the shares.  I think many investors will do the smae.  Total money float of SGD $70 Million are ready to buy Oceanus.  So added to other non subscriber investors, this should help chase the shares. 
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How much did you make from the TDR conversion ?

 



Laulan      ( Date: 06-Sep-2010 11:17) Posted:

Hi, all subscribers to the TDRs should have already got their cheques.  I got mine and am going to buy back the shares.  I think many investors will do the smae.  Total money float of SGD $70 Million are ready to buy Oceanus.  So added to other non subscriber investors, this should help chase the shares. 

cysnotts      ( Date: 01-Sep-2010 00:12) Posted:



Hi anyone allocated the 2nd TDR ? How and when will we be getting our $$$.

Pls advise. 
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Laulan
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06-Sep-2010 11:22     
 
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 Alert Admin 		BUY UP THE SELLERS NOW!!!
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Laulan
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06-Sep-2010 11:17     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Hi, all subscribers to the TDRs should have already got their cheques.  I got mine and am going to buy back the shares.  I think many investors will do the smae.  Total money float of SGD $70 Million are ready to buy Oceanus.  So added to other non subscriber investors, this should help chase the shares. 

cysnotts      ( Date: 01-Sep-2010 00:12) Posted:



Hi anyone allocated the 2nd TDR ? How and when will we be getting our $$$.

Pls advise. 
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06-Sep-2010 11:11     
 
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 Alert Admin 		In the top volume list again. Who is buying?
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Hi anyone allocated the 2nd TDR ? How and when will we be getting our $$$.

Pls advise. 
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