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AK_Francis
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14-Dec-2008 23:21     
 
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Congrate, u made some.

Now u wanted to get it again below2, yah, u may see it weeks later, if u patience.



Eddyson      ( Date: 14-Dec-2008 21:37) Posted:

I,ve bought SPC back in 2003 at $2.54 & watch it went down to 90 cts.Manage to hold until 2006 & sold at $3.18.Now time to buy back below $2, how about that for a long term investor who knows nothing about SPC.
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14-Dec-2008 21:37     
 
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 Alert Admin 		I,ve bought SPC back in 2003 at $2.54 & watch it went down to 90 cts.Manage to hold until 2006 & sold at $3.18.Now time to buy back below $2, how about that for a long term investor who knows nothing about SPC.
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Livermore
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14-Dec-2008 20:58     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Ask yourself was SPC making more money when crude oil price was at a high or when crude oil price was at a low like in 2001? Last year when SPC made a record profit, crude oil price was high. Trace back to see what was SPC price when crude oil price was at a low in 2001.
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Livermore
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14-Dec-2008 20:46     
 
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 Alert Admin 		If crude oil price falls further and oil product prices follow suit, you won't have much "price spread" to make a profit
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14-Dec-2008 20:33     
 
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 Alert Admin 		yup, thinking same as urs.
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14-Dec-2008 16:00     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Ok that means its rebounding! 
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14-Dec-2008 15:52     
 
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Goldman predicts oil to hit $30 a barrel

By Javier Blas in London

Published: December 13 2008 02:00 | Last updated: December 13 2008 02:00

 

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d394fbe8-c8b5-11dd-b86f-000077b07658.html

 

 

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scotty
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14-Dec-2008 11:06     
 
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Singapore Petroleum Company Limited - Says low oil prices to drag down results
Tan Jin San, 12 Dec 2008

SPC says the steep falls in crude and product prices will severely affect its earnings for this year. 
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12-Dec-2008 23:08     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Akang Datang liao ... performance guidance....coming your way soon

"wishes to inform investors that the Company’s 2008 earnings have been severely weakened as a result of the steep falls in crude and product prices."



lookcc      ( Date: 12-Dec-2008 21:55) Posted:

waiting patiently 2 enter spc at 1.70

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12-Dec-2008 21:55     
 
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 Alert Admin 		waiting patiently 2 enter spc at 1.70
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Livermore
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12-Dec-2008 19:10     
 
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There are more new refineries coming online and just be aware of that
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12-Dec-2008 19:09     
 
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 Alert Admin 		I mentioned a few times not to buy this stock and not because of some great dividend of the past 
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12-Dec-2008 17:59     
 
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This dosen't look good.

In 3Q08, they had a inventory writedown of $125m (approx 24.3 c per share) but offset by a derivative gain of $113.9 (approx 22.2 c ps).

If they have a inventory writedown of the same scale without the benefit of derivative gain, it will practically wipe off half the YTD (9 mth) eps of 54c.

Looks like Xmas came early for nickyng.

 



nickyng      ( Date: 12-Dec-2008 17:40) Posted:



 

 

 

Singapore Petroleum issues profit warning



 

SINGAPORE, Dec 12 (Reuters) - Singapore Petroleum Co (SPCS.SI: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) said on Friday its 2008 earnings have been "severely weakened" due to the steep fall in oil prices.

"The drastic slowdown in refined products demand in the second half of 2008 has caused a sharp drop in refining margins, which has impacted the group's performance," it said in a statement. Singapore Petroleum, which is about 45 percent owned by the world's top offshore oil rig builder Keppel Corp (KPLM.SI: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz), will report its fourth quarter and full year earnings on Jan 20.
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12-Dec-2008 17:59     
 
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 Alert Admin 		The stock will definite be affected by this news on Monday.... Don't sound too good at all.... Let's see. 

nickyng      ( Date: 12-Dec-2008 17:40) Posted:



 

 

 

Singapore Petroleum issues profit warning



 

SINGAPORE, Dec 12 (Reuters) - Singapore Petroleum Co (SPCS.SI: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) said on Friday its 2008 earnings have been "severely weakened" due to the steep fall in oil prices.

"The drastic slowdown in refined products demand in the second half of 2008 has caused a sharp drop in refining margins, which has impacted the group's performance," it said in a statement. Singapore Petroleum, which is about 45 percent owned by the world's top offshore oil rig builder Keppel Corp (KPLM.SI: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz), will report its fourth quarter and full year earnings on Jan 20.
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Singapore Petroleum issues profit warning



 

SINGAPORE, Dec 12 (Reuters) - Singapore Petroleum Co (SPCS.SI: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) said on Friday its 2008 earnings have been "severely weakened" due to the steep fall in oil prices.

"The drastic slowdown in refined products demand in the second half of 2008 has caused a sharp drop in refining margins, which has impacted the group's performance," it said in a statement. Singapore Petroleum, which is about 45 percent owned by the world's top offshore oil rig builder Keppel Corp (KPLM.SI: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz), will report its fourth quarter and full year earnings on Jan 20.
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AK_Francis
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12-Dec-2008 11:43     
 
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U may visit SGX.COM.SG for Stock Trading learning.

HSI now is -784, STI follows suit, now at -54.

SPC no spare as well. Last done at 2.21. May see -ve in pm.



leechongpeng      ( Date: 12-Dec-2008 11:33) Posted:

Thank for your advice. I don't know how to short but lucky I didn't buy at 2.29.

AK_Francis      ( Date: 12-Dec-2008 11:02) Posted:

Previous day,market alrdy knew Russia intervention in CO output may affect CO price.

SPC earning mainly base on earning per barrel. Under volatile CO market, that will affect its profit.  Its own oil field's output may see higher profit when CO px up, but thats not substantial as compared to its refining biz.

If it secured CO reserve with lower price and with higher CO price later, thats will bring much better profitx.

Yesterday, its intraday high was 2.29, and went down to 2.18 after profit taking. BBs were playing this counter.

Ds morning its high was 2.32, now heavy blocking at 2.26. Players are around. Today, is TGIF,

unloading n profit taking remain the main key player's strategy.  

Above is for info, no call for anything. CA applies.

P.S. AK wanted to tech naked shorting this burger, but as PM not around, didn't do anything.
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leechongpeng
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12-Dec-2008 11:33     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Thank for your advice. I don't know how to short but lucky I didn't buy at 2.29.

AK_Francis      ( Date: 12-Dec-2008 11:02) Posted:

Previous day,market alrdy knew Russia intervention in CO output may affect CO price.

SPC earning mainly base on earning per barrel. Under volatile CO market, that will affect its profit.  Its own oil field's output may see higher profit when CO px up, but thats not substantial as compared to its refining biz.

If it secured CO reserve with lower price and with higher CO price later, thats will bring much better profitx.

Yesterday, its intraday high was 2.29, and went down to 2.18 after profit taking. BBs were playing this counter.

Ds morning its high was 2.32, now heavy blocking at 2.26. Players are around. Today, is TGIF,

unloading n profit taking remain the main key player's strategy.  

Above is for info, no call for anything. CA applies.

P.S. AK wanted to tech naked shorting this burger, but as PM not around, didn't do anything.



leechongpeng      ( Date: 12-Dec-2008 10:10) Posted:



Look like the trend for SPC is going u? Would it be time to buy SPC now at 2.28 before it go higher? Any advice?
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AK_Francis
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12-Dec-2008 11:02     
 
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Previous day,market alrdy knew Russia intervention in CO output may affect CO price.

SPC earning mainly base on earning per barrel. Under volatile CO market, that will affect its profit.  Its own oil field's output may see higher profit when CO px up, but thats not substantial as compared to its refining biz.

If it secured CO reserve with lower price and with higher CO price later, thats will bring much better profitx.

Yesterday, its intraday high was 2.29, and went down to 2.18 after profit taking. BBs were playing this counter.

Ds morning its high was 2.32, now heavy blocking at 2.26. Players are around. Today, is TGIF,

unloading n profit taking remain the main key player's strategy.  

Above is for info, no call for anything. CA applies.

P.S. AK wanted to tech naked shorting this burger, but as PM not around, didn't do anything.



leechongpeng      ( Date: 12-Dec-2008 10:10) Posted:



Look like the trend for SPC is going u? Would it be time to buy SPC now at 2.28 before it go higher? Any advice?
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leechongpeng
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12-Dec-2008 10:10     
 
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Look like the trend for SPC is going u? Would it be time to buy SPC now at 2.28 before it go higher? Any advice?
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AK_Francis
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08-Dec-2008 17:09     
 
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Latest update on BT:

President OPEC prompted that they will surprise investors as members will propose severe

CO o/p cut, during coming mtg on 17 Dec.

Obma, hinded US economy to get worse first before improves.

And many other news on US economy as well, including jobs cut, country wide.

BTW, not sure the massive unemployed would get d so-called jobless's allowance mthly, as previously given? Ds group of people also kena the foreclosure of housing loan!!!

 



shplayer      ( Date: 08-Dec-2008 16:16) Posted:



Yes, 4Q08 is still challenging. The unknown factor is the inventory writedown on falling CO prices. However, I think this should have a smaller impact in 4Q than in 3Q cos CO price range in 3Q was approx USD60 and that of 4Q is approx USD40 (to date).

Refining margins for Oct08 (1st mth of 4Q) seems more promising than Jul and Aug 08 (first 2 mths of 3Q)....so, perhaps 4Q RM, main factor of SPC's income stream, will be better than 3Q.

In 3Q, SGD was strong but relatively stable against USD (1.35 to 1.40) but weaker in 4Q (1.45 to 1.52). The weaker SGD should bode well to the bottomline for Downstream (RM) and Upstream (oil/gas sales) revenue but will not be so good for inventory writedown....so this factor is difficult to predict.

So, my est of 4Q08 eps of about 6c is just a gut feel guess.

My est of FY09 eps of 30-40c is because I think RM will remain moderate......USD 3-7 per bbl and CO will not be too strong (USD 40 - 60 per bbl)
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