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handon
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09-Oct-2008 01:26
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9.5 breakout.... me happy..... | ||||
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handon
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09-Oct-2008 00:02
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usually ppl dun play BIG dow.... no liquidity.... ppl tend to portion their buying or selling using mini dow....
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idesa168
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08-Oct-2008 23:49
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That's a lot of $$ involved. Assuming today's trade if someone is successful in getting in at the trough and came out at the peak, we are talking about gain of 415 pts x US$25 = US$10,300.... in half an hour! That could also be the other way round of loosing that amount in half hour. That's why I didn't bother to find out more about that. Also the risk is that it's an open punting with no limits if you let the trade runs it's course.
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handon
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08-Oct-2008 23:42
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yeah.... 1 tick $10 us..... BIG dow 1 tick 25 us... mini dow 1 tick 5 us....comm goes by per contract.... not suit for u lah..... tailor to ppl with itchy finger... haha....
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idesa168
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08-Oct-2008 23:34
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Is it $10 a point in futures, excludes brokerage? And depends how many blocks you wish to punt?
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handon
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08-Oct-2008 23:16
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me trade with 300 pts or 500 pts support and resistance.... time it correctly can be profitable.... dun have to do intensive trading.... oso.... low rates... ppl will switch over to stocks |
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idesa168
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08-Oct-2008 23:03
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My view: you are right they will protect their assets. That is shown in the unexpected fall of 200 over pts at the opening. The angmoh BB buys up instead of let it fall further. When it was at +120 pts, they run liao leaving the rest to hold their babies. With the ban lifting on shorting tomorrow, I believe these BBs will take short position at +120 ppts and let it roll over!
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Blastoff
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08-Oct-2008 22:56
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Stocks jumpy after rate cutWall Street seesaws in very volatile trading as investors welcome surprise rate cut but remain wary.By Alexandra Twin, CNNMoney.com senior writer
Credit markets remained tight following the news, with banks continuing to hoard cash. Treasury bond prices spiked as investors rushed to the comparative safe haven of U.S. government debt. The dollar tumbled versus the euro and yen. Oil prices slipped and gold prices rose. The Dow Jones industrial average (INDU) lost a few points, with Alcoa and Bank of America dragging after the two companies reported weak results in the past two days. The Standard & Poor's 500 (SPX) index rose 0.4% and the Nasdaq composite (COMP) gained 0.5%. All three major gauges had tumbled at the open, then rallied shortly after as investors considered the emergency rate cut. Also in the mix: a surprise rise in the August pending home sales index. The Federal Reserve, in coordination with banks around the world, said it was cutting the fed funds rate by half a percentage point to 1.5%. The fed funds rate is a key short-term lending rate that impacts loans on credit cards, home equity lines and business loans. The Fed also cut the discount rate, a bank lending rate, by half a percentage point. (Full story) This is the latest step taken by various agencies over the past week in an attempt to get banks to start lending to each other again. The Dow has lost 1,400 points and the three major stock gauges have fallen to five-year lows as panicked investors have fled stocks. Credit markets: The emergency rate cut follows several days of dramatic moves on the part of the Fed to loosen up the credit markets, which businesses depend on to function day-to-day. The absence of ready capital has hurt the broad financial system and consumers who can't get loans. On Tuesday, the Fed said it will buy short-term debt that companies use to finance daily operations, directly from businesses. On Monday, it said it will make $300 billion available to banks in return for damaged assets, on top of $300 billion already available. And Congress approved the $700 billion bank bailout plan last Friday, allowing the Treasury buy bad debt directly from banks. But despite all these developments, the stock market and credit markets have remained under pressure. The yield on the 3-month Treasury bill, seen as the safest place to put money in the short term, slipped to 0.57% from 0.69% late Tuesday, indicating investors are willing to take a very small return on their money. Last month, the 3-month bill skidded to a 68-year low around 0% as panicked investors fled stocks. The TED spread, which is the difference between what banks pay to borrow from each other for 3 months and what the Treasury pays, rallied to an all-time high of 4.02% from 3.56% Monday. The wider the spread, the more reluctant banks are to lend to each other, rather than from the federal government. When markets are fairly calm, banks charge each other premiums that are not much higher than the U.S. government. Treasury bond prices rallied, lowering the yields. The benchmark 10-year note gained 12/32, lowering the corresponding yield to 3.46% from 3.50% late Tuesday. Treasury prices and yields move in opposite directions. Earnings: Late Tuesday, Alcoa (AA, Fortune 500) reported weaker quarterly sales and earnings that missed estimates, due to sluggish aluminum prices and demand. The Dow component also suspended its dividend. Shares fell 15% Wednesday. Late Monday, fellow Dow component Bank of America (BAC, Fortune 500) reported weaker profit that missed estimates and cut its dividend. The company said it will raise $10 billion through a stock sale and will need to set aside money for bad loans through the next year. Shares fell 26% Tuesday and another 9% Wednesday. Global markets: Markets overseas tumbled again Wednesday, with Japan seeing one of its worst days ever as the Nikkei slumped 9%. European markets slid as well, despite the coordinated central bank actions. (Full story) Oil and gold: U.S. light crude oil for November delivery fell 40 cents to $89.66 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange. COMEX gold for December delivery rallied $23.20 to $905.20 an ounce. Other markets: In currency trading, the dollar slipped against the euro and the yen. |
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handon
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08-Oct-2008 22:55
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me think ang moh will protect their assets... me go against the herd.... dun have to run road.... thanks for suggesting....
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idesa168
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08-Oct-2008 22:50
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Hey, tonight no good to long DOW futures! Going deep very quickly, a sign of fear which will do no good to the mkt. Should be underwater the whole session. May I suggest you change to short instead!...just my view. | ||||
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idesa168
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08-Oct-2008 22:47
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yah I monitors DOW as STI co-relate to it. It's too risky for me to play futures ( I am conservative and boring investor), besides I dun know how to punt Futures. | ||||
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handon
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08-Oct-2008 22:38
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hi 168... u monitor dow n dun trade???
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idesa168
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08-Oct-2008 22:33
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yah, I kinda agree with you that bottom is about 6 mths from now. I am targeting 8,000 pts range
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bola_no1
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08-Oct-2008 22:26
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Ya... just 5mins it turns from +120 to -50 points.. | ||||
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handon
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08-Oct-2008 22:25
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when the markets has more bad news.... me tend to buy more....
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idesa168
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08-Oct-2008 22:22
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Did DOW actually went down -233 points just now? It says HIGH 9,628 (+181pts), LOW 9,213 (-233pts) ... Quite unbelievable that cut rate also went down 200 over points! | ||||
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Sporeguy
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08-Oct-2008 22:20
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Dow is at 5-yr low. According wave theory, it is more accurate to time the troughs than the crests. Bottoms usually happen every 5 yrs to 5 1/2 years. So at the latest, the bottom will be in 6 months' time. | ||||
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handon
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08-Oct-2008 22:20
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long again 9.48.... see how later... | ||||
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idesa168
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08-Oct-2008 22:14
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Looks to me that the gain of +114 now is struggling. Hope it can pull through the entire session in green. | ||||
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handon
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08-Oct-2008 22:05
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9.5 to 9.8..... waiting for 9.8 to come.... dun need to run road.... | ||||
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