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28-Oct-2008 22:59
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gentlemen, it is time to look at Morgan Stanley again...... in bar with AIG, ING, Merrilly Lynch, Citibank, Goldman Sachs... don't miss the dead cat rebound !
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handon
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28-Oct-2008 21:47
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no chance to buy cheap again.... can go koon liao.... | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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handon
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28-Oct-2008 21:36
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8.2...8.3 can long.... 200pts pocketed while kooning..... now got 9.0 and 9.3.... | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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williamyeo
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28-Oct-2008 21:33
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handon
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28-Oct-2008 21:32
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waiting to long again.... | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Sporeguy
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28-Oct-2008 08:39
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handon
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27-Oct-2008 21:50
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8.2 being the support.... looking at 8.5.... can go koon liao.... got 8.3, 9.0, 9.3.... |
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handon
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27-Oct-2008 21:42
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long some at 8.3.... | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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handon
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27-Oct-2008 21:35
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ppl are selling at 8.25.... let them sell first.... | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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handon
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27-Oct-2008 21:22
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monitor closely.... $$$ can be made..... hangon..... now got 9.0 and 9.3.... gng to buy more later.... | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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idesa168
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27-Oct-2008 21:19
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The DJ Futures were down -203pts an hour before the start. Now it's just 15 mins to start and DJ Futures recovers to a mere -57pts. Probably will open in slight -ve or in slight +ve for a start. Any bad news along the long night will probably sent DJ into spiral and be prepare for STI tomorrow to drop as much as HSI today (-12%). | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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williamyeo
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27-Oct-2008 21:09
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25-Oct-2008 12:17
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Stocks can't shake the bluesWall Street gives up comeback attempt as global slowdown woes dominate, capping a dismal week.By Alexandra Twin, CNNMoney.com senior writer
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Stocks slumped Friday, but managed to end off session lows, as Wall Street joined a worldwide market slump on bets that a recession is imminent - if not already under way. The Dow Jones industrial average (INDU) fell 312 points or 3.6%. The Dow slumped as much as 504 points in the morning, recovered to within 112 points of breakeven and then fell back again by the close. The Standard & Poor's 500 (SPX) index fell 3.5% and the Nasdaq composite (COMP) slid 3.2%. Both stock gauges had posted steeper declines in the morning. Friday's session capped off a tough week on Wall Street near the end of a brutal month. The ongoing credit crisis, sluggish profit forecasts and falling commodity prices have all amplified recession fears, and the weakness hasn't been limited to the United States. For the week, the Dow lost 5.3%, the S&P 500 lost 6.8% and the Nasdaq fell 9.3%. With one week left in October, the major gauges are down between 25% and 30% for the month. The major gauges are down more than 40% since the Dow and S&P 500 hit all-time highs a year ago and the Nasdaq hit a bull-market high. All three major gauges are at more than five-year lows. Investor panic is at record levels, as measured by the CBOE Volatility index, or the VIX. Some analysts think that the market is nearing a so-called bottom, but no one is willing to call it and jump back in yet, said Jim Dunigan, chief investment officer at PNC Wealth Management. "In the short-term, everything argues against any significant spike up in stocks," he said. Dunigan said that longer-term the outlook is better, as inflationary pressures continue to dwindle, some stocks become good values relative to earnings and the economy eventually recovers. The main questions for investors right now are about "the duration and severity of the current recession and how long this vicious forced selling will continue," said Michael Sheldon, chief market strategist at RDM Financial Group. That so-called "forced selling" due to margin calls has played a big role in the recent volatility. With a margin call an investor has to either pay back a loan or put more money into an account because a security purchased with borrowed money has fallen to a certain level. One fast way to raise the cash is to sell something else, such as stock. Global market effect: Asian markets tumbled overnight, with the Japanese Nikkei losing almost 10%. The Moscow market slumped 14% before the exchange said it was suspending trading until Tuesday. European markets retreated, with the London FTSE falling 5% after a big drop in the United Kingdom's third-quarter GDP added to recession bets there. (Full story) "The main culprits that are likely responsible for the selling today (Friday) include weak economic growth in the U.K. and possible forced liquidation by hedge funds and other investors," Sheldon said. Bets that the Bank of England and European Central Bank will have to cut rates aggressively in the months ahead sent the euro and pound lower versus the dollar. The dollar slumped versus the yen. (Full story) The U.S. central bank is expected to cut rates when it meets next week. But experts are wondering if the Federal Reserve will lower rates to below 1% for the first time. (Full story) Oil prices continued to slide, with crude plunging to a 17-month low below $65 a barrel despite news that oil cartel OPEC is cutting production by 1.5 million barrels a day starting in November. The decline is basically the oil market "forecasting a recession," said Terry Morris, senior equity manager at National Penn Investors Trust. Jittery markets: Investors were braced for an even bigger selloff in the early going after Dow Jones industrial average futures fell 548 points - which triggered trading limits. The nervous environment prompted the New York Stock Exchange to post a statement on its blog confirming that trading would began as normal at 9:30 a.m. ET. Reflecting the jitters, the CBOE Volatility (VIX) index, or the VIX, briefly hit an all-time high of 89.53. But the VIX had improved to 79.47 in the late afternoon. Clearly, there is a lot of nervousness out there, said Joseph Saluzzi, co-head of equity trading at Themis Trading. However, it wasn't clear what created so much more nervousness early Friday versus any other day this week. Partly it was the U.K. GDP report, he said, which was adding to the reality of how global the problems are. "Usually, Europe is reacting to us, but today we're reacting to them." On a positive note, a report showed sales of existing homes jumped more than expected in September, with investors taking advantage of lower prices. The report also showed that prices continue to fall. Oil, gas and gold: U.S. light crude oil for December delivery settled down $3.69 at $64.15 a barrel, a 16-month low. Prices have been sliding since crude peaked at a record $147.27 a barrel on July 11. The decline since then has resulted from speculators pulling out of the market on bets that demand is slowing along with the global economy. Gasoline prices fell another 4.1 cents overnight, to a national average of $2.781 a gallon, according to a survey of credit-card activity by motorist group AAA. It was the 37th consecutive day that prices have decreased. During that time, prices have fallen by over $1 a gallon. COMEX gold for December delivery rallied $15.60 to settle at $730.30 an ounce. Company news: This week has brought the biggest wave yet of third-quarter corporate results. About 140 of the S&P 500 companies have reported. With 41% of the reports out already, profits are on track to have fallen almost 11% from a year earlier, according to the latest estimates from Thomson Reuters. After the close Thursday, Microsoft (MSFT, Fortune 500) reported quarterly sales and earnings that topped forecasts. But the software leader also warned that sales and earnings for the fiscal second quarter and the full year won't meet forecasts due to the slowing economy. Shares ended with small declines. (Full story) In other news, PNC (PNC, Fortune 500) is buying fellow regional bank National City (NCC, Fortune 500) in a $5.6 billion deal. National City's shares have been hammered over the last few months amid questions about its solvency following a series of bank failures and mergers. Privately owned Chrysler said it will cut 25% of its salaried workforce starting next month, and that it could announce other restructuring news in the future amid the auto industry slump. Market breadth was negative. On the New York Stock Exchange, losers topped winners 4 to 1 on volume of 1.58 billion shares. On the Nasdaq, decliners beat advancers 3 to 1 on volume of 2.7 billion shares. Credit market: Lending rates seized up a bit amid the broad recession fears. (Full story) Libor, the overnight bank-to-bank lending rate, rose to 1.28% from 1.21% late Thursday, according to Bloomberg.com. However, that still kept the rate below the Fed's benchmark lending rate of 1.5%, which is a good sign for the credit market. Libor hit a record 6.88% earlier this month at the height of the market panic. The 3-month Libor rate, what banks charge each other to borrow for three months, fell to 3.52% from 3.54% Thursday. The TED spread, which is the difference between what banks pay to borrow from each other for three months and what the Treasury pays, widened to 2.70% from 2.55% late Wednesday. The spread hit a record 4.65% earlier this month. The narrower the spread, the more willing banks are to lend to each other. Lending rates had been improving for more than a week, but have stalled over the last couple of days. Credit froze in the wake of the housing market collapse, subprime fallout and contraction in the bank sector. The lack of available credit has punished the already weak economy, making it hard for businesses to function on a daily basis and for consumers to get loans. Treasury prices turned lower, erasing morning gains. The decline boosted the yield on the 10-year note to 3.68% from 3.64% Thursday. Treasury prices and yields move in opposite directions. At one point, the yield on the 30-year bond sank to the lowest point in its 31-year trading history, to as low as 3.87%. The yield on the 3-month Treasury bill, seen as the safest place to put money in the short term, slipped to 0.86% from 0.95% late Thursday, showing investors would rather see little return on their money than risk the stock market. Last week, the 3-month fell to below 0.2%. Last month, it reached a 68-year low around 0%, as investor panic hit its peak. |
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AK_Francis
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25-Oct-2008 01:13
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yoh, we can air our views in the forum, with good spirits, no right or wrong or hard feelings ones.\ just to keep us together, young or old, strong or not that strong characters. be benevolence in all believes. wishing all a happy good Deepavali festival, next Mon, esp for the Indian forumers. |
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Andrew
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25-Oct-2008 00:40
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Well, not as miss-guided as your over-optimistic post : Hulumas : It will recover on 28th of November 2008 most probably, another massive interest rate cut globally. (hopefully) before Opec cut its crude oil output instead!!!
U really think interest rate will save the day ? Why give pple a false hope ? It is better to scare pple away from the market now than to invite them back to the now super cheap stocks ? Will cheap get cheaper ? Do you have the answer ? What is in your mind when you press the POST button ?
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cheongwee
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24-Oct-2008 22:39
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I have just read just now that US,Japan and Europe make up 40T dollar GDP...the whole world is 54T..so if the 3 big one in trouble , how the rest will be safe??? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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cheongwee
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24-Oct-2008 22:36
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I think this is panic selling..just sell and cover..that is..fund redemption.. What is more worrying is if Korea or Russia give way..i means their $..then this will hit market hard... Iceland is one thing..currently,,,these two look shaky... |
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cyjjerry85
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24-Oct-2008 22:33
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no support no resistance in such a market whereby TA is not paid attention to when sentiments rule the market instead read the newspapers from TODAY that says no TA and FA in such period
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cheongwee
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24-Oct-2008 22:31
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I think S&P support is 850..if break then very back,,,but DOW will be 7200.. IO read this from Weiss research..not mine opinion.. and worse case depression it will idle at 5424 for the nexrt 3 yrs!!!..hope not...pray not. |
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24-Oct-2008 22:28
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We are close to capitulation and the rally would be sharp and high once the Dow hit this point. One event to look at would be the coming US election, only 2 weeks away. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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