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joseeng Master	05-Oct-2013 15:43        joseeng About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro, weekend should spend more time with your family la, not in front of your computer....lol Stockcham      ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 15:17) Posted: lol...I think that is because peoples in this thread are nice people and we don't hai lang....lol. Serious, I didn't expect that actually there are so many peoples coming to SJ everyday. I think SJ is the hottest stocks forum out of so many Singapore stocks forum. Anyway, this thread is going to be very quiet  soon. It's good in way because bros & sis will have more time to spend with their family. Huat ah! Peter_Pan      ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 14:43) Posted: how come sgx never query this thread?? the surge is very fast over a short period of time!
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Peter_Pan Supreme	05-Oct-2013 15:39        Peter_Pan About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "did you order dunkin' donuts"
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	this thread will continue to be very hot during the trading hours lah...!! huat ah!!! many bros & sis will continue to come here to get objective advice from you, cheers!!!  Stockcham      ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 15:17) Posted: lol...I think that is because peoples in this thread are nice people and we don't hai lang....lol. Serious, I didn't expect that actually there are so many peoples coming to SJ everyday. I think SJ is the hottest stocks forum out of so many Singapore stocks forum. Anyway, this thread is going to be very quiet  soon. It's good in way because bros & sis will have more time to spend with their family. Huat ah! Peter_Pan      ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 14:43) Posted: how come sgx never query this thread?? the surge is very fast over a short period of time!
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Stockcham Elite	05-Oct-2013 15:17        Stockcham About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	lol...I think that is because peoples in this thread are nice people and we don't hai lang....lol. Serious, I didn't expect that actually there are so many peoples coming to SJ everyday. I think SJ is the hottest stocks forum out of so many Singapore stocks forum. Anyway, this thread is going to be very quiet  soon. It's good in way because bros & sis will have more time to spend with their family. Huat ah! Peter_Pan      ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 14:43) Posted: how come sgx never query this thread?? the surge is very fast over a short period of time!! Stockcham      ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 14:29) Posted: Lol.....in other thread of sj ok....mai this thread again leh.....boh mia ah...huat ah
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Simpsons Veteran	05-Oct-2013 14:50        Simpsons About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Lol..in current market correction..even if give redmonk, europedaughters or tigersilver share placement for membership, i think nobody will signup lol... Stockcham      ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 14:29) Posted: Lol.....in other thread of sj ok....mai this thread again leh.....boh mia ah...huat ah! Simpsons      ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 14:16) Posted: When the trees start growing..sj will start new membership drive again..lol
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Peter_Pan Supreme	05-Oct-2013 14:43        Peter_Pan About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "did you order dunkin' donuts"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	how come sgx never query this thread?? the surge is very fast over a short period of time!! Stockcham      ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 14:29) Posted: Lol.....in other thread of sj ok....mai this thread again leh.....boh mia ah...huat ah! Simpsons      ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 14:16) Posted: When the trees start growing..sj will start new membership drive again..lol
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Stockcham Elite	05-Oct-2013 14:34        Stockcham About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Agree with you bro! Time to spend more time with family. Yesterday played with my children n they were so happy. Don't forget to share more jokes. Your jokes is number 1. Enjoy your weekend bro! novice_trader      ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 11:23) Posted: Good morning fellow bros and sis, hope everybody is ok and taking a nice break this weekend... Last night bring the kids out for late dinner and ice cream, take a nice break and looked at them, suddenly find that I need to stop trading for a while or for good, keep losing $$$ isn't good. The $$$ lost could have upgraded my car or bring the family to a nice vacation... Hahaha. Win $$$ happy, lost $$$ complaint... Typical sore loser... Also then Was talking to a friend last night, as I have lost about many $kk lately, he asked why don't buy blue chip or mid cap stocks that give nice dividend... He told me why play penny stocks... Hahahaha. Bloody hell, things happen then why this why that... Zzzzz.... This correction I'm pretty ok, lost a little on Rex and Dukang, only amplefield lost the most. Maybe bcoz of bro Stockcham who advice us not to anyhow buy stocks lately and also fellow bros and sis who advice not to hold too many positions... The market is a cycle, market up we make $$$ but lost some, market down we lost $$$ but still have chance to make a bit... Hope next week a better week for all. Read this lost a lot this week, hope all will be better and god bless... (I sound liks sis sugee, hehehe...) Lastly, Huat ah!!!
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Stockcham Elite	05-Oct-2013 14:29        Stockcham About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Lol.....in other thread of sj ok....mai this thread again leh.....boh mia ah...huat ah! Simpsons      ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 14:16) Posted: When the trees start growing..sj will start new membership drive again..lol
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Simpsons Veteran	05-Oct-2013 14:16        Simpsons About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	When the trees start growing..sj will start new membership drive again..lol
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Peter_Pan Supreme	05-Oct-2013 14:13        Peter_Pan About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "did you order dunkin' donuts"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	preserve the forest and your trees will grow again
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Stockcham Elite	05-Oct-2013 13:52        Stockcham About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Good sharing Bro Pineapple! Huat huat to you lah! Huat ah! OngLaiHuat      ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 12:00) Posted: Hi bros/sis here, it's been rough week, hope all is alright. Just like to share something after my chat with one of my friend who is former broker , now in BOA. we both agreed that right now for next two weeks there be still pressure in micro pennies with no fundamentals, as bbs, securities house has also been given warning on not to pump a counter for nothing. Sgx is on pressure to keep on eye on such things also. Micro pennies euphoria is temp over for now. He told me try focus on picking up good counters on mid caps and those above 0.200 and has track record of earnings, and also blue chips if you can afford. He repeatedly warn on micro pennies, and there will be a lot fake rebounds for bbs to clear holdings . May and oct is always bad month for stocks..now just wait for bargain hunt on good stocks and be patient for nov rally. I think I rem I did said what is cheap will be even cheaper lelong sometime last week. Fri rebound on Dow is prob shorts covering so green does not mean next week hosay. Hope all are well here and just be patient, don't jump gun ...it may be a false rebound. Huat ah! novice_trader      ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 11:23) Posted: Good morning fellow bros and sis, hope everybody is ok and taking a nice break this weekend... Last night bring the kids out for late dinner and ice cream, take a nice break and looked at them, suddenly find that I need to stop trading for a while or for good, keep losing $$$ isn't good. The $$$ lost could have upgraded my car or bring the family to a nice vacation... Hahaha. Win $$$ happy, lost $$$ complaint... Typical sore loser... Also then Was talking to a friend last night, as I have lost about many $kk lately, he asked why don't buy blue chip or mid cap stocks that give nice dividend... He told me why play penny stocks... Hahahaha. Bloody hell, things happen then why this why that... Zzzzz.... This correction I'm pretty ok, lost a little on Rex and Dukang, only amplefield lost the most. Maybe bcoz of bro Stockcham who advice us not to anyhow buy stocks lately and also fellow bros and sis who advice not to hold too many positions... The market is a cycle, market up we make $$$ but lost some, market down we lost $$$ but still have chance to make a bit... Hope next week a better week for all. Read this lost a lot this week, hope all will be better and god bless... (I sound liks sis sugee, hehehe...) Lastly, Huat ah!!!
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OngLaiHuat Member	05-Oct-2013 13:27        OngLaiHuat About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Good luck to you too bro....may all have a relax weekend, go do some family bonding, look at your family, look at your home, look at your kids, smell some fresh air, get some sun, mind will be clearer. And probably you may rethink how fortunate you are now and sometimes is really no point trying to fight the market, instead let the market fight for you, for your hard earn money, ride the wave, not against it. Huat ah! Simpsons      ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 13:15) Posted: Thks for your sharings..like what most pple have shared, next 2 weeks will be a rough period..any rebound like what u said is for BB to unload as they are also affected and may need to cash out to cover their other positions.. Bite the bullets and need to cut, cut during rebound and hold good dividends and fundamental stocks..
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Simpsons Veteran	05-Oct-2013 13:15        Simpsons About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thks for your sharings..like what most pple have shared, next 2 weeks will be a rough period..any rebound like what u said is for BB to unload as they are also affected and may need to cash out to cover their other positions.. Bite the bullets and need to cut, cut during rebound and hold good dividends and fundamental stocks..
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OngLaiHuat Member	05-Oct-2013 12:00        OngLaiHuat About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hi bros/sis here, it's been rough week, hope all is alright. Just like to share something after my chat with one of my friend who is former broker , now in BOA. we both agreed that right now for next two weeks there be still pressure in micro pennies with no fundamentals, as bbs, securities house has also been given warning on not to pump a counter for nothing. Sgx is on pressure to keep on eye on such things also. Micro pennies euphoria is temp over for now. He told me try focus on picking up good counters on mid caps and those above 0.200 and has track record of earnings, and also blue chips if you can afford. He repeatedly warn on micro pennies, and there will be a lot fake rebounds for bbs to clear holdings . May and oct is always bad month for stocks..now just wait for bargain hunt on good stocks and be patient for nov rally. I think I rem I did said what is cheap will be even cheaper lelong sometime last week. Fri rebound on Dow is prob shorts covering so green does not mean next week hosay. Hope all are well here and just be patient, don't jump gun ...it may be a false rebound. Huat ah! novice_trader      ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 11:23) Posted: Good morning fellow bros and sis, hope everybody is ok and taking a nice break this weekend... Last night bring the kids out for late dinner and ice cream, take a nice break and looked at them, suddenly find that I need to stop trading for a while or for good, keep losing $$$ isn't good. The $$$ lost could have upgraded my car or bring the family to a nice vacation... Hahaha. Win $$$ happy, lost $$$ complaint... Typical sore loser... Also then Was talking to a friend last night, as I have lost about many $kk lately, he asked why don't buy blue chip or mid cap stocks that give nice dividend... He told me why play penny stocks... Hahahaha. Bloody hell, things happen then why this why that... Zzzzz.... This correction I'm pretty ok, lost a little on Rex and Dukang, only amplefield lost the most. Maybe bcoz of bro Stockcham who advice us not to anyhow buy stocks lately and also fellow bros and sis who advice not to hold too many positions... The market is a cycle, market up we make $$$ but lost some, market down we lost $$$ but still have chance to make a bit... Hope next week a better week for all. Read this lost a lot this week, hope all will be better and god bless... (I sound liks sis sugee, hehehe...) Lastly, Huat ah!!!
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novice_trader Elite	05-Oct-2013 11:23        novice_trader About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	Good morning fellow bros and sis, hope everybody is ok and taking a nice break this weekend... Last night bring the kids out for late dinner and ice cream, take a nice break and looked at them, suddenly find that I need to stop trading for a while or for good, keep losing $$$ isn't good. The $$$ lost could have upgraded my car or bring the family to a nice vacation... Hahaha. Win $$$ happy, lost $$$ complaint... Typical sore loser... Also then Was talking to a friend last night, as I have lost about many $kk lately, he asked why don't buy blue chip or mid cap stocks that give nice dividend... He told me why play penny stocks... Hahahaha. Bloody hell, things happen then why this why that... Zzzzz.... This correction I'm pretty ok, lost a little on Rex and Dukang, only amplefield lost the most. Maybe bcoz of bro Stockcham who advice us not to anyhow buy stocks lately and also fellow bros and sis who advice not to hold too many positions... The market is a cycle, market up we make $$$ but lost some, market down we lost $$$ but still have chance to make a bit... Hope next week a better week for all. Read this lost a lot this week, hope all will be better and god bless... (I sound liks sis sugee, hehehe...) Lastly, Huat ah!!!
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star-trader Senior	05-Oct-2013 10:02        star-trader About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Technical
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	SC  Cheers. Anyway, I am not belongs to the investor group. I am more to a short-term trader,occasionally mid-term traded using technical chart analysis on valued/fundamental stocks so that I can ride on the wave when it is uptrend or downtrend..! :) All the best..
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Stockcham Elite	05-Oct-2013 09:56        Stockcham About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yeah bro, thanks for sharing your view. Can see that you belong to the investor group. Share more here if you have the time since some bros & sis may want to invest in stocks instead of play stocks. Happy trading too. Wish you huat big big! Huat ah! star-trader      ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 09:13) Posted: SC Everyone has different style of playing. Why I am a technical analysis, but still emphasis on fundamental is because a stock will rebound if the business of a company makes sense. Yes you can cut loss here and there, but at the end of the day.whether it is just a temporary downside or real downside? Eg below trades you made, Amplefield, Ocean Sky and Oakwell that you have made losses and also Soup Restn and AP that you have gained. Yes, you mentioned that fundamental will change over time, that's why each stock you trade you will need to observe the quarterly report and where it is heading to, together with the technical chart analysis, you will see the pattern. :) It goes the same to OKH and ChinaEnv, looks at the fundamental, put in on the chart and see if it is a just temporary downside/rebound or just something else.   * To your point on keeping the stocks, I can tell you that I also don't keep stocks for ages except CapitaMall. All the stocks traded are merely short/mid term. Many times on the trading field..Steps by steps guide. 1) Look at the value/fundamental of the stock before trading or playing short/mid/long term trading. 2) Begin doing the technical analysis of the chart on a " bird view" basis first be it 1,2 or 3 years. then short term basis..using technical indicators 3) When price has uptrend, sell by looking at the Support/Resistance level of the stock so that you will get caught by the emotion ( *** selling too early, or keeping till the price dropped back to the purchase price) 4) Be patient, stocks will take time to nurture. (It can be 2 to 4 weeks)  5) Sit down and relax..lock in profit. :)   Anyway, this is just my opinion.. :) Everyone will have own trading styles.. use the one that is most comfortable with and as long as you lock in profit.then that will be the most important thing.. :D Happy Trading..!     Stockcham      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 19:40) Posted: With regards to OKH and ChinaEnv, I only have one question. What is the fundamental value or potential of these 2 companies?. Frankly, I don't know because I'm not good in that. If the company is good, then maybe can justify the increase in price. If not,  I guess very  soon will be their turn.
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Stockcham Elite	05-Oct-2013 09:43        Stockcham About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Morning Sis! Am glad that you did not kena jialat. Nevermind, when market recovers then we can  make back the losses.  At the moment, no one will know whether  how long this bear will last. It may be a mini bear or longer correction. I think at the end of the day, it depends on Dow. Some said some times ago that we have to be careful when Dow reach 16000.  I think we have to be alert  anytime now because DOW is struggling  to hold above 15500. The first time it  moved above  15500 it didn't managed to close above it. The 2nd time it managed to go above it but not long after, it dropped below 15000. This is the  3rd time  it moved above  15500 and dropped. It is  now testing 15000 again. If you look at the  chart, it formed a triple top pattern which is a bearish pattern.  You can look up the Dow chart and check out the candlestick explanation on triple top for more knowledge. Therefore, there is a possibility(not confirm)  that we may be in for a long correction. As long as DOW don't break the low on June 24, then there is still a chance to move up. Just sharing only. Enjoy your weekend! Falcon      ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 08:30) Posted: Good Morning! After yesterday showdown, I finally understand why must cut loss. Those who heed your warning recently on correction are safe fr bigger loss. I was slow...but still not too bad. Thank You for tirelessly sharing your experience & knowledge, hve mch to gain. I hve save these golden nuggets of advice for future reference. Huat Ah! Stockcham      ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 08:01) Posted: Bro, I've mentioned  in my previous post before that it depends on whether one wants to invest in stocks or play stocks. Fundamental is important if one want to invest in stocks. Anybody who are in the market can see that in a bull market, counters without fundamental can move a lot while many  good fundamental counters do not move as much. You can see that fundamental becomes secondary in a bull market. So if one wants to play stocks, we should follow the flow so that we can makes money. But of course when market starts to correct, the reverse will happen. Those without fundamental will likely die first and can die jialat jialat. I'm not an investor. I'm a short term player and so I follow the flow and analyze what BBs going to do next with the help of TA. I don't focus too much on how good a company is. You can see that even I'm a short term player, how come I don't touch Liongold, Blumont and Asiasons, and never mentioned in my thread to share with bros & sis when it chiong and chiong. From the way it moves up, can see that these are  very risky counters to touch. How can they worth that price. One need to have some knowledge and skill  no matter whether we play stocks, mahjong, sports or anything else. If don't have, hard to win. That's why I tried to share what I know. Even though I'm still not good enough, at least peoples pick up some skill to minimize their loss when they started to play stocks. Many will advice not to play contra. This is definitely good advice. But in realistic, many peoples will still play contra even if they are investing. At the end of the day, one have to do anything within his/her own limit. Just like in doing business. One can own a very good business making very good profit. If he is too greedy and want to expand his business too fast outside his limit, then his good profit business may also toh if it doesn't go his way. In stocks trading, we buy during a bull market but we also need to know how to sell when market turn against us. If you have been reading this thread regularly, you may realize that recently I started to post about signs of correction. Bros and sis who PM recently, I didn't ask them to buy anything. Most of my advice is to ask them to sell. Come back to fundamental. If I want to invest  a counter, then fundamental and Fund's interest in the counter will be my priority.  I don't believe in picking up shares when it has run so much during bull market unless the shares worth much more than the current price. That's the reason why many peoples kena stucked at high for many years. Investing in stocks is not about buying a counter and keep long long.  It doesn't mean the longer you keep you make money. When the company performance startst to drop, it is time to sell. In my opinion, the best time to pick up shares is during the bear market when very good fundamental drop too low. Just my thoughts! Huat ah
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star-trader Senior	05-Oct-2013 09:13        star-trader About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Technical
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	SC Everyone has different style of playing. Why I am a technical analysis, but still emphasis on fundamental is because a stock will rebound if the business of a company makes sense. Yes you can cut loss here and there, but at the end of the day.whether it is just a temporary downside or real downside? Eg below trades you made, Amplefield, Ocean Sky and Oakwell that you have made losses and also Soup Restn and AP that you have gained. Yes, you mentioned that fundamental will change over time, that's why each stock you trade you will need to observe the quarterly report and where it is heading to, together with the technical chart analysis, you will see the pattern. :) It goes the same to OKH and ChinaEnv, looks at the fundamental, put in on the chart and see if it is a just temporary downside/rebound or just something else.   * To your point on keeping the stocks, I can tell you that I also don't keep stocks for ages except CapitaMall. All the stocks traded are merely short/mid term. Many times on the trading field..Steps by steps guide. 1) Look at the value/fundamental of the stock before trading or playing short/mid/long term trading. 2) Begin doing the technical analysis of the chart on a " bird view" basis first be it 1,2 or 3 years. then short term basis..using technical indicators 3) When price has uptrend, sell by looking at the Support/Resistance level of the stock so that you will get caught by the emotion ( *** selling too early, or keeping till the price dropped back to the purchase price) 4) Be patient, stocks will take time to nurture. (It can be 2 to 4 weeks)  5) Sit down and relax..lock in profit. :)   Anyway, this is just my opinion.. :) Everyone will have own trading styles.. use the one that is most comfortable with and as long as you lock in profit.then that will be the most important thing.. :D Happy Trading..!     Stockcham      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 19:40) Posted: With regards to OKH and ChinaEnv, I only have one question. What is the fundamental value or potential of these 2 companies?. Frankly, I don't know because I'm not good in that. If the company is good, then maybe can justify the increase in price. If not,  I guess very  soon will be their turn. JarolLo      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 18:19) Posted: I think only OKH can consider. Still look strong despite the bad sentiment in the market, but don't know whether can tahan or not if market continue so bad. Not vested but keep observing in my watch list.
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Falcon Veteran	05-Oct-2013 08:30        Falcon About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Good Morning! After yesterday showdown, I finally understand why must cut loss. Those who heed your warning recently on correction are safe fr bigger loss. I was slow...but still not too bad. Thank You for tirelessly sharing your experience & knowledge, hve mch to gain. I hve save these golden nuggets of advice for future reference. Huat Ah! Stockcham      ( Date: 05-Oct-2013 08:01) Posted: Bro, I've mentioned  in my previous post before that it depends on whether one wants to invest in stocks or play stocks. Fundamental is important if one want to invest in stocks. Anybody who are in the market can see that in a bull market, counters without fundamental can move a lot while many  good fundamental counters do not move as much. You can see that fundamental becomes secondary in a bull market. So if one wants to play stocks, we should follow the flow so that we can makes money. But of course when market starts to correct, the reverse will happen. Those without fundamental will likely die first and can die jialat jialat. I'm not an investor. I'm a short term player and so I follow the flow and analyze what BBs going to do next with the help of TA. I don't focus too much on how good a company is. You can see that even I'm a short term player, how come I don't touch Liongold, Blumont and Asiasons, and never mentioned in my thread to share with bros & sis when it chiong and chiong. From the way it moves up, can see that these are  very risky counters to touch. How can they worth that price. One need to have some knowledge and skill  no matter whether we play stocks, mahjong, sports or anything else. If don't have, hard to win. That's why I tried to share what I know. Even though I'm still not good enough, at least peoples pick up some skill to minimize their loss when they started to play stocks. Many will advice not to play contra. This is definitely good advice. But in realistic, many peoples will still play contra even if they are investing. At the end of the day, one have to do anything within his/her own limit. Just like in doing business. One can own a very good business making very good profit. If he is too greedy and want to expand his business too fast outside his limit, then his good profit business may also toh if it doesn't go his way. In stocks trading, we buy during a bull market but we also need to know how to sell when market turn against us. If you have been reading this thread regularly, you may realize that recently I started to post about signs of correction. Bros and sis who PM recently, I didn't ask them to buy anything. Most of my advice is to ask them to sell. Come back to fundamental. If I want to invest  a counter, then fundamental and Fund's interest in the counter will be my priority.  I don't believe in picking up shares when it has run so much during bull market unless the shares worth much more than the current price. That's the reason why many peoples kena stucked at high for many years. Investing in stocks is not about buying a counter and keep long long.  It doesn't mean the longer you keep you make money. When the company performance startst to drop, it is time to sell. In my opinion, the best time to pick up shares is during the bear market when very good fundamental drop too low. Just my thoughts! Huat ah! star-trader      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 22:37) Posted:     I used to post here very actively last time.. but gave up along the way..when people can lead people into believing that fundamental of a stock is not important besides technical analysis.. I still remember months back I posted here to remind everyone the important of fundamental though I am more of   a technical analysis myself.. but got hit off immediately..  Anyway, I really hope those got hit by this managed to get thru this hard time and everything will be fine regardless of what you are facing..Stay strong and don't being lead by anyone to believe something that they believe..
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Stockcham Elite	05-Oct-2013 08:01        Stockcham About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro, I've mentioned  in my previous post before that it depends on whether one wants to invest in stocks or play stocks. Fundamental is important if one want to invest in stocks. Anybody who are in the market can see that in a bull market, counters without fundamental can move a lot while many  good fundamental counters do not move as much. You can see that fundamental becomes secondary in a bull market. So if one wants to play stocks, we should follow the flow so that we can makes money. But of course when market starts to correct, the reverse will happen. Those without fundamental will likely die first and can die jialat jialat. I'm not an investor. I'm a short term player and so I follow the flow and analyze what BBs going to do next with the help of TA. I don't focus too much on how good a company is. You can see that even I'm a short term player, how come I don't touch Liongold, Blumont and Asiasons, and never mentioned in my thread to share with bros & sis when it chiong and chiong. From the way it moves up, can see that these are  very risky counters to touch. How can they worth that price. One need to have some knowledge and skill  no matter whether we play stocks, mahjong, sports or anything else. If don't have, hard to win. That's why I tried to share what I know. Even though I'm still not good enough, at least peoples pick up some skill to minimize their loss when they started to play stocks. Many will advice not to play contra. This is definitely good advice. But in realistic, many peoples will still play contra even if they are investing. At the end of the day, one have to do anything within his/her own limit. Just like in doing business. One can own a very good business making very good profit. If he is too greedy and want to expand his business too fast outside his limit, then his good profit business may also toh if it doesn't go his way. In stocks trading, we buy during a bull market but we also need to know how to sell when market turn against us. If you have been reading this thread regularly, you may realize that recently I started to post about signs of correction. Bros and sis who PM recently, I didn't ask them to buy anything. Most of my advice is to ask them to sell. Come back to fundamental. If I want to invest  a counter, then fundamental and Fund's interest in the counter will be my priority.  I don't believe in picking up shares when it has run so much during bull market unless the shares worth much more than the current price. That's the reason why many peoples kena stucked at high for many years. Investing in stocks is not about buying a counter and keep long long.  It doesn't mean the longer you keep you make money. When the company performance startst to drop, it is time to sell. In my opinion, the best time to pick up shares is during the bear market when very good fundamental drop too low. Just my thoughts! Huat ah! star-trader      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 22:37) Posted:     I used to post here very actively last time.. but gave up along the way..when people can lead people into believing that fundamental of a stock is not important besides technical analysis.. I still remember months back I posted here to remind everyone the important of fundamental though I am more of   a technical analysis myself.. but got hit off immediately..  Anyway, I really hope those got hit by this managed to get thru this hard time and everything will be fine regardless of what you are facing..Stay strong and don't being lead by anyone to believe something that they believe..   Stockcham      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 19:40) Posted: With regards to OKH and ChinaEnv, I only have one question. What is the fundamental value or potential of these 2 companies?. Frankly, I don't know because I'm not good in that. If the company is good, then maybe can justify the increase in price. If not,  I guess very  soon will be their turn.
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