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ten4one
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28-Aug-2006 05:48
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If you trade, liquidity of a stock is vital. You may discover a very good company with all the good financial ratios and yet the share px of its stock is stuck in the mud for weeks or more. This is simply 'cos Mr 'Muscle Men' are not interested and disagreed with you. Here, you've to be patience and endurance to hold on to your believe that you're right. |
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marksman
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28-Aug-2006 00:29
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Nostradamus
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27-Aug-2006 23:20
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Heavy accumulation precedes breakouts. The frequency of daily and weekly volume spikes can serve as a valuable indicator of institutional demand for a stock. Look for stocks that have a higher number of weeks when the stock closes up in price on above-average volume than weeks when the stock closes down in price on above-average volume. Sound base patterns show price increases corresponding with volume increases, followed by price decreases coupled with waning volume. A dry-up in volume at the low point of the base signals that sellers are backing off. Conversely, when a stock's price rises in declining volume, that's a sign of a possible breakdown ahead. Buy stocks in which there's more accumulation, ie being bought more than they're being sold. Those with more distribution should be avoided, because there's more selling going on. Keep in mind that a stock with more buying than selling during a stock's base do not ensure big future gains. Look for as many indicators of strength in a stock's fundamentals as well as its chart before mulling a buy. |
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teeth53
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16-Jun-2006 08:37
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well, is all about making a decision and not picking on past history. We all make mistake after mistake and we still learning how to buy/sell or hold at very moment, stay down to earth, get oneself ready for the next battle by keeping afew ammo ($$$) with U, so it time for bottom fishing now, jus have to be careful not to fall into bull trap by closely monitering your vested stocks. Got some profit, tkae some and leave some for other. yahh... ONLY trade within your mean to hold. |
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Galaxy65
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14-Jun-2006 00:49
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So in you believe (& have faith in the trend & the market) it would benefit you a lot to know more about TA ..... (my personal opinion only lah) ... knowing the TA, charts & indicators & how to use them would benefit you ... I know there are also many others who may say this is not the "method" or strategy they would use ... well, to them I say - you're entitled to your opinion & you can use whatever you want .... so long as you make $$$$ good for you ... Bottom line is - are you making $$$$ or are you losing $$$$ ??? .... If you tell me you're are having paper loses of 40% .... 50% or what have you & you're still holding on ... wishing (& hoping) that it might go up to its "old price" in future .... My Q is, how long do you want to wait .... ? Would it not be a better idea to cut (cap) your loss at 8-10% as mentioned previously by a few of us .... think about it ... if you still want to carry on with holding on to your losing counters ... well be my guest !!!! I know it sounds "cruel" .... but if you are NOT willing to consider our opinion (I won't call it "advice") .... you future loss may be even greater unless you find a BETTER way to trade or invest your $$$ .... sorry, if I sound a bit unkind ... my sincere apologies There's a Chniese saying ... "the good medicine is always bitter ...." think about what we say when we say manage your risk(s) & CUT YOUR LOSSES .... in other words ..... get out fast when it's going down .... or is it better to hold on & wait for a recovery (since it's only paper loss) ..... YOUR CHOICE ............ For me - get out fast ... even if it's a mistake, I will incur a small loss or a small profit (if I make a mistake by getting out too fast).... important thing is - my capital (principal $$$$) is PROTECTED .... I CAN FIGHT ANOTHER BATTLE ANOTHER DAY ........... !!! NO MONEY .... HOW TO FIGHT THE NEXT BATTLE .... So even if another opportunity comes along I may not be able to BUY .......... |
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Nostradamus
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10-Jun-2006 14:00
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lewsh88, Let's discuss this in the appropriate thread: http://www.sharejunction.com/sharejunction/listMessage.htm?topicId=168 |
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ten4one
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10-Jun-2006 12:34
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Of course S'poregal, you need a lot of muscles to set a trend. Once you spotted one, move in (and also out) before the herds (lay investors). In the Stock Market, believe me you it is this trend supported by the herds that created a flaw pricing in the Market (that's why I said the Market is always wrong)! The herds' self-prophecy propels the Market to a new hight and Mr Muscle-man check-out and the herds panic and reverse the trend at a much faster speed (going down is always faster than going up) - it is everyone for himself now! |
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singaporegal
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10-Jun-2006 10:43
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thanks ten4one! I also believe that trend is mostly created by the big guns in the market and not really by us lay investors. |
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ten4one
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10-Jun-2006 08:12
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Hi S'poregal, Can't agree with you more that trading in the Stock Market is about the psychological behaviours of Participants and their perceiptions of the Market and thus created a trend which would affect the Investor Expectations. This trend could change once the Participants realise their perceiptions and the actual course of events differ. Therefore, when you're riding a trend pattern, be on your toes and be ready to exist at the slightest change of direction. Of course, if the 'trendy' wave is up, keep riding and switch on your 'overdrive'! Now I'm already on 'sleep mode' and going for the German Waves! |
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singaporegal
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09-Jun-2006 18:52
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hee hee.... thanks lewsh88 for quoting me.... :) I'm sorry to hear about your 50K losses... that must be very very painful for you. One other psychology I apply when trading - I switch to a very pessimistic frame of mind. meaning that I expect the worst is going to happen and I bail out, regardless of I make or lose money, at the slightest hint (possibility of trend reversal) of problems in the counters I hold. |
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lewsh88
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09-Jun-2006 17:50
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Nostradamus: Share Portal got to pay leh! Since joining share junction, I've read a lot of "when to buy" and "when to sell" technics from all the sifus out there that I'm actually quite confused now. Instead of a profit of 30K before this latest market downturn, I'm now stuck with paper losses of about 50k to date (no fault of anyone but my own greed). I feel that I need to wait till prices rebound and hopefully recover some losses. After that, I will try to follow one of the very good points by singaporegal, that is, watch the TREND- DON'T BE GREEDY. |
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singaporegal
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09-Jun-2006 15:08
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Good posts Galaxy65 and ten4one! Like what galaxy65 says - there are no RIGHT or WRONG ways of investing. Everyone has to find what works for him/her. As far as I'm concerned, as long as you make money consistently, who cares whether you're TA, FA, or FA+TA right??! |
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Nostradamus
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09-Jun-2006 13:50
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Hi guys, If you enjoyed the buy rules, there are many more useful articles at Share Portal. Share Portal Hope to see you there! |
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mamasan
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09-Jun-2006 12:36
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hikitty, you are my idol.. my hello kitty.. |
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Galaxy65
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09-Jun-2006 10:36
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Tone4one, Yes, most of the TA indicators are "lagging" .... however, there are a few that are "leading indicators" if you know how to use them to your advantage .... Please do not misunderstand me, I'm not saying or assuming that you don't or are unaware of these indicators .... Readers of this forum should decide for themselves which are the sound (or good strategies) they should adopt or use in making & managing their stock investment/trading ie whether to use FA, TA, anlaysts' (or brokers') recommendations or market news. There is NO RIGHT or WRONG ANSWERS. For me - so long as it helps me to make money FA or TA is fine with .... You must make an informed decision. FA helps me to make 200% for my Raffles Edn stock - so, why not ? TA helps me to make 15 - 30% within a few days to a few weeks/mths. Again, if you multiply this by x no. of times .... in 6 mths to yr I may be able to make 50-100% (can lose also lah) .... So it is VERY IMPORTANT to manage the risk/reward ratio & cut the loses !!! Most of us know when to BUY, but we (hold on & hope &) DON'T GET OUT WHEN WE INCUR LOSES .... (I know it's easier said than done). But the truth is that this is what we must do if we want to SURVIVE in the stock market .... !!! Bottom line is, I think we all have our own strategies for our own trades/investments (short, medium or long term - your choice). No one is right/wrong ALL THE TIME & it's up to each one of us to find his/her strategies that is/are best suited to his/her investment/trading style. The above is my personal opinion - it may not be agreeable to all. To those who disagree strongly, please accept my humble apologies. After all, this forum is for us to express our views (freedom of speech). |
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hikitty
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09-Jun-2006 09:44
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Any time is a good time to buy so long as you are not a margin or contra player who hopes to take profit in three days when payment on a sale is due. That is often why the historical low often becomes lower by the day(unless the counter is another ACCS or Informatics fiasco). The present market cannot remain low or keep on heading further south forever, unless it's Armageddon. |
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mamasan
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09-Jun-2006 09:02
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buy now till July 4... everyday. |
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ten4one
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09-Jun-2006 06:47
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Hi S'poregal, 1st let me point out that TA deals with past 'thinkings' of the Market - it only forms a pattern of the past. Your price-expectation of the Market surely can't be always right. Most investors believe that they could 'discount' what the Market would do in the future (ie taking future developments into account in advance of their occurrings). Such belief is biased and partial because they always ignored the influences that could and would come from future developments. As such, Market prices were always going to be 'wrong' because they offered not a rational view of the future but a biased one! |
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Livermore
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08-Jun-2006 20:12
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Have you heard of Ray Barros? He is a private trader and investment adviser in Singapore. Here is a quote from him in today's business times," So my view is rates will top out. The stock market will initially rally and this rally will be followed by a 2 year decline." In my opinion, the US economy is in bad shape with huge deficits. With the US economy slowing down, raising interest rate will slow it even more in the fight against inflation. I remember when George Soros was in Singapore a few months ago, he predicted a world recession in 2007 due to a "bubble burst" in the US housing market. If that happens, the US economy will slow down as 2/3 of its economy depends on the US consumer. If interest rate continue to rise, the US consumer will find it more difficult to pay his housing loan. That "bubble burst" could become a reality if too many people borrowed beyond their means to buy homes. |
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mamasan
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08-Jun-2006 19:49
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July 4, 2006, recovery.. after Independence Day .. |
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