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Sand Ban - In Perspective
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tuntan8888
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28-Jan-2007 19:50
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Fear is unwarranted - trust our PAP Government (see relevant extracts of CNA reports below.) In fact, sands consitute a small percentage of total construction contracts, so even if prices of sands doubled its effect is insignificant. Total construction contracts awarded in 2006 = $16 Billion vs. Average Yearly import of sands from Indonesia = $140 millions.
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teeth53
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28-Jan-2007 18:29
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JUST FYI ONI: Rite now. Happening to such countries as in Saudi.. to ..., in China to Ta...., in Ma..to S.. and in Indo to S.., may can get some sand from Cam.., maybe Phi..., due to exsiting contract, some may still be in, but at higher px, jus sharing my tot. more headache coming... | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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m2d4pc
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28-Jan-2007 18:18
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The sand shortage is more serious than I thought, no joke man! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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teeth53
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28-Jan-2007 18:14
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Sand ban, sand px up >40%, then construction and tender not even started yet. Interested parties may up it tender as accordingly to sand px plus plus, one thing for sure is up in it estimated construction cost oredi to it S$200m per years estimation for Gen Int'l and SC. Just wondering they did their sum to include such cost or not and further down the road for the next few years. Oredi Mr Lim, Gen Int'l boss said it take them about seven years to recover, this time it may take more then seven years liao. Mean while happy trading. Yahh. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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iPunter
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28-Jan-2007 18:09
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I have to agree with you ... the sentiment is presently so bullish that nothing can change that sentiment. |
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lausk22
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28-Jan-2007 18:07
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I'm no chartist. To me, chart readings are for technicians and fortune tellers:) I'm no fundamentalist, either. To me, fundamentals are for religious fanatics, who are obsessed with their beliefs, like those terrorists. I'm more driven by sentiments. So u may call me a sentimentalist, but not the obsessive lover type :) |
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geojam
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28-Jan-2007 18:00
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I like the views put forward by members of the forum,esp,ipunter and lausk22. The implication for the red dot (as lausk22 said) is that there are many green eyes surrounding the red dot.It is not the first time and will not be the last. Can the garmen import sand from say Australia or NZ? |
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iPunter
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28-Jan-2007 17:56
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So technically speaking, does it portend well for the STI? Did you take a clsoe look at the STI bar chart? Especially the action during the last 2 trading days? Is it bullish or bearish? It may well be a case of the boiling frogs, except that it starts from hot side and gets cooler while all those involved are still hotstuff. |
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lausk22
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28-Jan-2007 17:49
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The implication for a little red dot I wld say: Yes, it is serious. The other MM (Mohd Mahathir) across the causeway stopped selling to us sometime back and took us to court for using their little grains to reclaim more land from the surrounding seas. Now SBY who is presiding over a thousand islands is doing the same, although he does not need them. This is the reality of living in such a neighbourhood. Can we change reality? I doubt so. Come to think of it, we should thank Suharto for 38 years of support and peaceful life. Now, u will probably know why our MM is still such a close friend to him. |
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iPunter
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28-Jan-2007 17:35
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So does it mean that the sand issue is actually more serious than we thought initaially thought? |
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lausk22
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28-Jan-2007 17:28
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Wah, Sguy....U certainly stir up a sand storm of information on these little inedible grains, which most people have taken for granted all along. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Sporeguy
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28-Jan-2007 15:48
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Another sand headache. The Eelam People?s Democratic Party, aided by the Sri Lanka Army and the Police, is removing sand at night from the Vadamaradchi east coast, where civil organizations recently imposed a ban on sand removal formed a committee to regulate it, and selling the sand in the Jaffna town area, sources in Jaffna said. As there is a shortage of sand for construction in Jaffna, the EPDP is said to be profiteering with the collusion of the SLA. The public and civil society groups in Vadamaradchi east have placed a ban on sand excavation from the coast, saying such removal impacts the survival of their villages at a time when nothing is being done to provide basic facilities to the villages. "They [the sand removers] are ransacking our environment. The village gets nothing in return. We do not even have electricity. We will be exposed to nature's fury if the dunes are gone," Mr. Alagurasah, a community leader in Manalkadu, one of the villages in Vadamaradchi east, told TamilNet earlier in October. The civil organizations later formed a seven-member committee that regulates the excavation of sand, identifying the sites where sand removal is permitted and regulating the transport of sand. However, the EPDP is surreptitiously removing sand at night, ignoring and violating the ban with the aid of the SLA and Police. The EPDP?s profiteering from the illegal sand business has angered the public. In the past, the EPDP was involved in the lobster business in Neduntheevu, but that business is no longer operating, and the EPDP has found the sand business profitable, sources said. |
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Sporeguy
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28-Jan-2007 15:32
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Indonesia wants ban on sand quarrying in outlying islands. News on Spore National Day(my emphasis in italic). Surabaya (Indonesia), Aug 9: The Indonesian Navy has asked the government to ban people from quarrying sand in the country's outlying islands to prevent it from disappearing, a top naval officer said .
"We have called for a ban on sand quarrying either on land or at sea," Naval Chief of Staff Admiral Slamet Soebijanto said here in East Java. He added that he made the call after the Navy found it hard to control sand quarrying in these places. Indonesia is the world's largest archipelagic nation that is made up of more than 18,000 islands. Many people have reportedly quarried sand off the country's outlying islands in the Riau Islands for exports to neighbouring Singapore, raising fears that many of them would disappear. He said joint efforts involving many parties were needed to control the outlying islands. "We have deployed marine task forces on the outlying islands. But for the time being it is not necessary to deploy special forcers there," he said. Asked about the government's response to the call, he said it was still to be discussed. (N.N.N.-ANTARA) Surabaya (Indonesia), Aug 9: The Indonesian Navy has asked the government to ban people from quarrying sand in the country's outlying islands to prevent it from disappearing, a top naval officer said .
"We have called for a ban on sand quarrying either on land or at sea," Naval Chief of Staff Admiral Slamet Soebijanto said here in East Java. He added that he made the call after the Navy found it hard to control sand quarrying in these places. Indonesia is the world's largest archipelagic nation that is made up of more than 18,000 islands. Many people have reportedly quarried sand off the country's outlying islands in the Riau Islands for exports to neighbouring Singapore, raising fears that many of them would disappear. He said joint efforts involving many parties were needed to control the outlying islands. "We have deployed marine task forces on the outlying islands. But for the time being it is not necessary to deploy special forcers there," he said. Asked about the government's response to the call, he said it was still to be discussed. (N.N.N.-ANTARA) |
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Sporeguy
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28-Jan-2007 15:27
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Another article oo ban of sand export.BOFT to ease impact of China's ban on sand, gravel exports to TaiwanThis article was published by the Taiwan Headlines on April 18, 2006. It reports that China's ban on sand and gravel exports, which will take effect from May 1, 2006, will affect most Asian nations, especially Taiwan. At present, more than 20 percent of the sand and gravel consumed in Taiwan come from China. Taiwan has totally liberalized sand and gravel imports since 1995. Currently, imports from China account for 97 percent of Taiwan's total sand and gravel imports. Because of Taiwan's heavy reliance on Chinese sand and gravel, the Bureau of Foreign Trade under the Ministry of Economic Affairs will ask the Chinese authorities to offer a grace period for the ban, in order to minimize the impact on Taiwan. According to the World Trade Organization's rules, member countries can put a ban on exports as long as such measures are implemented for industrial development, environmental protection and land conservation purposes, with no discriminatory behavior. |
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mwzl95
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28-Jan-2007 15:00
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I think just short term shock lah! Singapore sure find sloution. |
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Sporeguy
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28-Jan-2007 14:36
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Don't act like Ah Bian! Lost-Lost Situation. Must always work towards Win-Win situation. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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EastonBay
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28-Jan-2007 00:13
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Too bad our govt is too much of a nice guy. Never play tit-for-tat with other countries, conducting everything in a very biz like manner (deep down I like this biz like manner). Yah, 'kill' the new initiative at Batam Industrial park... or something like this. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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chipchip66
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27-Jan-2007 20:54
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If they ban sand, we ban investments??? Just a thot! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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m2d4pc
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27-Jan-2007 17:28
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In today TheNewpaper news report in page 5, there is a whole page article on the baning of Sand import. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Sporeguy
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27-Jan-2007 14:59
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Desert sand can be used for construction, but look at the article below where Saudi Arabia ban sand export to Bahrain.
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