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hello123
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13-May-2012 21:21
Yells: " google ' sgx swinger ' - for how stock operators work " |
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this blogger dumped his Yoma and Kepcorp right at the recent   peak with trading statements to boot   - see his    interesting analysis   on sti   at  http://sgxswinger.blogspot.com/ | ||||
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rutheone1905
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13-May-2012 16:45
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lol never expect can slaughter Jel n TT twice. also we miss GentingSP, kena clouded by MBS good posting, sigh otherwise this is a damn good one.  more good days ahead.  |
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warrenbegger
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12-May-2012 21:00
Yells: "Anyhow Buy Anyhow Die ^_^" |
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1 wolf is weak 5 wolf is gay 10 wolf is normal 20 wolf is strong 35 wolf is terrible strong 50 wolf is @#$%, kelong empire *3 big powerful  wolf is enough to kill a whale (Even JPM(Blur wolf)  is gang rape by thousands of mini hungry wolf)   |
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warrenbegger
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12-May-2012 20:48
Yells: "Anyhow Buy Anyhow Die ^_^" |
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U r kind and right :) There's another kind of short call technical short. And another kind of short i can't said it here :)
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rutheone1905
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12-May-2012 19:47
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From my earlier posting: Shorting the mkt u can do in 2 ways:  1) alittle illegal n dangerous: just sell a counter n buy back the SAME day.   If not buy back u kena $1K fine ok (becos u sell a share without actually owning that share) 2) open an CFD account n when u sell down a counter, the institute u open acct will borrow from someone the script for u (so u r not selling without shares which make it legal).   U will need to pay certain $ for the borrowed period. Sometime when a counter is too hot u cant even short it becos no more share to be borrowed.   And also some institute dont have certain coy shares so u wont be able to short that share.    To add on: method 1 is for bloodshed days, black swan event, i.e. 911, just keep killing, no worries of no share to borrow.   BUT must stare at monitor n buy back same day.  method 2 shares borrowed when u short need to pay " rental" n if u choose CD share n it went XD u have to pay the declared dividend. also the amount of $$ u used to open account is called margin.   when u short n the mkt in favour of u, the margin increased, n if the mkt goes against u (price shoot up) u will see the margin drops. once the margin near to certain amount the institute will call u n politely ask u to close the position (at a loss) or to top up.   in shorting there is a common word call STOP LOSS, i hate this word becos hvnt start alrdy LOSS lol. so for me when i enter into position, i will stare at this particular counter till it give me say 10K profit then i will enter a TRAILING STOP (not all platform got this). meaning is as long as the profit goes above 10K i will be in position but once the profit drop let say from 15K back to 10K, the system closes the position n i got 10K. so in tat essence i can open many position with various STOPS n go to Giant for groceries then when sms comes i know how many position close liao.   but if no sms tat means the mkt damn bad lor. i will straight away take my notebook n open up the trailing stop to 20K for example, then carry on shopping. for first timer, the exciting part is u see the margin drops, it happens. u so scare n u better be. but tat the experience u will learn.   try to start small n when margin drop it drop slowly then u got time to play with the software (even closing position, at a loss, takes time. becos u will think wait a little wait a little lol, DONT WAIT!!!).   if u play 100lots 300lots kind of counters it almost no time to react if counter goes against u.......so short only those em.....with p.....a.....c.....k coming should got many chance for shorties.   good luck.       
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soulreaction02
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12-May-2012 15:10
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Btw rutheone1905,   what are the ways to short the market????   |
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rutheone1905
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12-May-2012 00:52
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our action is not classified as mkt manipulation, which one of the criteria is proof of coordinated action that impact the counter significantly without which that counter is dormant, we did nothing of that, we just kick start the ball rolling n the rest is history. but ur suggest is valid, i will take ur advice, thanks.     |
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EricCartman
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12-May-2012 00:07
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hey, i humbly suggest that you should stop mentioning about working in pack for your shorting activities and that is if you are really do it. As what you and your pack are doing does is essentially market manipulation in the broadest sense, I believe you dont wish to see an invitation from sgx regulators for coffee session. )
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rutheone1905
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11-May-2012 23:42
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1 stock should be delist soon. not becos of lousy performance instead quite good fundamental.   understand tat it is gonna list in another exchange. if u hunt it right the return is damn good hint: looks for volume stock  |
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daffodil1003
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11-May-2012 11:16
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rutheone1905
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11-May-2012 10:46
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agreed. blame Bernanke....lol he din give sign on QE3.  well buy on dip which many like to advice..... btw it shows that it is always easy to short, which i always advocate, then buy up. with so little $, less then 20K, u can profit huge amount, but on one criteria i.e. must work in pack of at least 10.   my current pack grow to 22 alrdy. all winning should be removed from speculative mkt n reinvest in proper tools, for me i put in reits, properties, insurance (haha) n planning to open a farm. many advocate shorting with STOP LOSS!!!   yes if u r shorting alone, which i think very dangerous itself if u r not full time.   shorting in pack dont need to use STOP LOSS instead use TRAILING STOP.   when u work in pack the mkt will move in ur favor, but diff pack will out at diff price so trailing stop take care of tat. using STOP LOSS, u will sometime played by the platform provider, where they make a sudden move to activate ur stop loss n kick u out. then the mkt move in favour of u (but u r alrdy out).  |
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cathylmg
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11-May-2012 10:18
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At the moment not accurate leh...
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rutheone1905
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11-May-2012 02:16
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i use candle not the usual way like looking for doji star, hanging man, tri star etc to me this way of reading candle is equally useless.   i use candle for convenience in comparing opening, closing, spread, hi low versus events n news. it is ok to continue to use charts if u r making money, just need to find something most suitable for ur style.   for me i just share my experience only.   most important is winning n not which tools to use...cheers. PS events dont impact all stocks, nobody can play all stocks unless using sw.   i just use events for handful of selected stocks only.      |
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versaek
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11-May-2012 01:11
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Thought you retired from the forum??  I don't know what you are talking about, maybe you are high while making the post. Candles are the main component of a chart - who uses bar charts these days?!  Condemning charts but embracing candles make a lot of sense. True it is not about prediction (from chart reading) but about reaction.  But reaction to what?  Reaction to events and forex?!  Do you see an event impacting every stock the same way across the board?  Why not?? True that candlestick studies are arguably most important but many a times it only tells half the story.  Take VSA for example, not every time you can sport obvious big ugly high-volume black candles to know BBs have exited the scene. It only tells half the story in such instances and you need other 'things' to figure out.  Or similar candles can be saying different things, again, depending on other 'things'. I shall stop here....
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monk999
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11-May-2012 00:27
Yells: "TA is an art!" |
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how can you ditch the chart and read candlestick alone? isnt the candlestick (price) part of the chart? good traders dont use charts to predict the future. they react to what is happening now.you cannot predict exactly what will happen since nobody knows what will happen. charts include the price, volume and other indicators..they are still useful though but it depends on how you use them. for example, you will know when the price is trending or ranging, when you should cut loss or take profit etc.  beware of the news as they are mostly hyped. even writers themselves dont know what is exactly happening. 
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rutheone1905
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10-May-2012 23:19
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Europe mostly in green US Jobless claims fell Bernanke's speech no mention of QE3 DOW's big green in opening loose some steams STI should be ok tomorrow opening   |
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rutheone1905
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10-May-2012 09:35
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notice still got a lot of ppl using charts to explain/predict a future movement.   Plssssssssss this is stone age technique. why? very simple.   in the past when ppl buy stocks, they buy to KEEP long time for dividend, such time stocks movement can be predictable with charts. now? with so many black swan events, in & out with slightest news how can u still predict with charts!!!   using 100MA 200MA lol.   just sincerely ask urself how many can win with charts prediction.   or if possible u can try this out....set up any chart with down mkt scenerio n then use a one up market data to key in the next value, u see the chart straight away turning towards " positive" , worst still there r many who think they can buy " cheap" when mkt down, so a little up event they chiong into the mkt......sigh. take closer look in Experts analysis forum/news column see how many still use charts to explain, compare with how many using EVENTS to explain u will know tat charts are not reliable. so for those newbie good thing u dont have to rely on chart anymore.....put LOTS of time into reading news/events tat happens world wide i bet u can profit more. esp if u can relate events to stock mkt. Well give u one hint: FOREX & Stock mkt   r bros.......in ur mind always relate things that u read regarding forex to stock mkt, keep relating then u will see.... PS if u stare at ur monitor dont know wat to buy, dont know wat to short then shut off ur pc n stay away...no losses = wins u MUST know exactly wat to buy when to buy how high it will possibly go then u can win.   u think this is impossible?   do wat i have told u above n be diligent u will get wat i mean.  DUMP THE CHARTS n dont let it influence u.....for past 10 yrs i never see a chat except candle stick.    |
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