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infancybird Senior	29-Apr-2011 20:40        infancybird About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The higher unemployment rate is good for stock as Fed will not raise rate too soon but to keep it low so that mortgage rate can be kept low to avoid default  of home loan by the many unemployed.        eplepl      ( Date: 29-Apr-2011 19:26) Posted: hello all the sifu,   this news any impact ? WASHINGTON : New claims for US unemployment insurance benefits surged more than expected last week to the highest level since January, official data showed on Thursday. The Labor Department reported initial jobless claims rose to a seasonally-adjusted 429,000 in the week ending April 23. That was sharply higher than the average analyst estimate of 390,000. The Labor Department revised slightly upward the prior week's claims number to 404,000. The department gave no explanation for the unexpected rise in the weekly indicator on the jobs market. The four-week moving average, which helps to smooth volatility, was 408,500 claims, an increase of 9,250 from the prior week. The average had been below the 400,000 threshold for eight consecutive weeks. The US unemployment rate fell to 8.8 per cent in March, its lowest level in two years, as the economy struggles to recover from recession.
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eplepl Master	29-Apr-2011 19:26        eplepl About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	hello all the sifu,   this news any impact ? WASHINGTON : New claims for US unemployment insurance benefits surged more than expected last week to the highest level since January, official data showed on Thursday. The Labor Department reported initial jobless claims rose to a seasonally-adjusted 429,000 in the week ending April 23. That was sharply higher than the average analyst estimate of 390,000. The Labor Department revised slightly upward the prior week's claims number to 404,000. The department gave no explanation for the unexpected rise in the weekly indicator on the jobs market. The four-week moving average, which helps to smooth volatility, was 408,500 claims, an increase of 9,250 from the prior week. The average had been below the 400,000 threshold for eight consecutive weeks. The US unemployment rate fell to 8.8 per cent in March, its lowest level in two years, as the economy struggles to recover from recession.
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alexchia01 Elite	29-Apr-2011 18:30        alexchia01 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "Catch The Stars And Ride With Them"
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	Hi Capland, you are very eager to prove other people wrong. The fact is I can see it. You have the station and yet you can't see it, shows you still don't know how to use the application. Just because you have the tool, does not mean you know how to read it. You still have much to learn. capland      ( Date: 29-Apr-2011 17:42) Posted: For yr information , i am using SI station... and they dont have such " application" ... HAHAHA ... my code is nel7410...u may check with SI investor ( SPH sub) staff. I think u have more to " learn" . I have been using this thing before it was sold to SPH... hahaha..i thought what " paid application" , actrually the service i was using everyday.... alexchia01      ( Date: 29-Apr-2011 17:38) Posted: 1. Knowing BBs fund movement does not mean you'll make money. It just give you an advantage over others who don't know this information. 2. I don't really know what BBs think, but I don't think really care. Even if we know, so what... We still can't fight with them with our limited fund. In fact, I think they want us to follow because we can help them to push up or down the price. It's the people who follow last that got slaughtered. 3. In the past, you can only trade by calling your broker. Now you can trade via smart phone. Just because you don't have this information in the past, it does not mean you don't have it now. Check out shareinvestor.com. 4. I'm not interested in BB queues lah. I'm only interested in what they Buy or Short and the volume. Fake queue is just technique used to mislead intraday traders, this should not bother mid to long-term traders.
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eplepl Master	29-Apr-2011 18:24        eplepl About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	good luck my friend ! capland      ( Date: 29-Apr-2011 18:10) Posted: To my dearest isolator, i am going to sand now, maybe placing " player" today- cos last few games, i played " banker" .... Hope can win another 3 k .. to spend for my weekends...good luck
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alexchia01 Elite	29-Apr-2011 18:15        alexchia01 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "Catch The Stars And Ride With Them"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Why can't a person a be trader and investor at the same time? I'm both. I didn't say I long and short the same stock at he same time. I've certain stocks which I keep long-term for Dividends and I've certain amount which I trade for cash flow. FYI, Warren Buffett is also both trader and investor. His recent trade was China Petroleum. We all trade differently. Just because you can't trade and invest at the same time, does not mean others can't. It's like I can't trade intra-day, it does not mean others can't do intra-day as well. I don't really want to argue over technicality. I'm just sharing my views, if you don't agree with me then fine. capland      ( Date: 29-Apr-2011 17:01) Posted: no need guess. In this world- no one can say he is a trader and investor at the same time. How to short and then buy again , and hold long- cos he is going to short again later... A trader is a trader, and investor is an investor... I never heard Warren short markets- nor i heard Jim rogers hold stocks for long..U may confuse yrself, better define wther u are inv. or trader- cos each one got different minset. If u don believe- go any funds manager- they will tell u - speculatives and long are two different departments. They cannot MIX.
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capland Veteran	29-Apr-2011 18:10        capland About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	To my dearest isolator, i am going to sand now, maybe placing " player" today- cos last few games, i played " banker" .... Hope can win another 3 k .. to spend for my weekends...good luck
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capland Veteran	29-Apr-2011 18:08        capland About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	BBS advantage is - they knew human weakness- FEAR and GReed. They afraid of (1) Long term investor. cos they knew no matter what prices moves, investor are calm. So they bo bia " smoke" us. They are like " cheaters" trying to go around " cheating" those not calm- fear and greedy ones.  Thats is why i also remind that - must know yr horizon- how long one can hold, to prevent the BBs taking advantage. Isolator      ( Date: 29-Apr-2011 18:00) Posted: Mouse trap after so many years still able catch mouse... because of greed... lol....
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capland Veteran	29-Apr-2011 18:03        capland About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	INFORMATION FOR U 1) BBs movement will be a secret to all. Only their team knows (not even mention colleages n friends) cos when their movements dedected- they will abord the " project" . 2) they haver to create a " smoke" for those panick sellers and buyers. for example- they shorted 1st - to make those buyers too panick- and the buyers begins to sell- and the BBs accumulate.. when they are " full" ... they begin to push up the price- leaving the previous seller in despair. The way around, BBs buys huge volume- to let u and me thinks there is Demand, and we buy,. When they filled, they shorted. 3) this is how market moves everyday. Those news we have heard, in fact already " old" news to the BBs. 4) They have to " covered" their " position" every end of the day, cos they don wan to expose " naked" . thank u.
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Isolator Supreme	29-Apr-2011 18:00        Isolator About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood: Yells: "STI is hard landing to below 2000..."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Mouse trap after so many years still able catch mouse... because of greed... lol....
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capland Veteran	29-Apr-2011 17:50        capland About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	further to let u know- yr remiser could provide u a better informations-cos they have a system to track big volume (sell) n (buy). But they don know who and where is from. SO there is 100% no way to know the movement of the BBs. and u are wrong- BBs need u to do the opposite way , They wan to to sell, when they accumulate. And u to buy , when they short. Alama- imagine when every1 sellings, WHERE ARE THE BUYERS TO BUY????? MY FRIEND- U ARE CONFUSED LAO.....CHECK WITH YR SOURCE AND ASK MORE WITH THOSE EXPERTS....... capland      ( Date: 29-Apr-2011 17:42) Posted: For yr information , i am using SI station... and they dont have such " application" ... HAHAHA ... my code is nel7410...u may check with SI investor ( SPH sub) staff. I think u have more to " learn" . I have been using this thing before it was sold to SPH... hahaha..i thought what " paid application" , actrually the service i was using everyday.... alexchia01      ( Date: 29-Apr-2011 17:38) Posted: 1. Knowing BBs fund movement does not mean you'll make money. It just give you an advantage over others who don't know this information. 2. I don't really know what BBs think, but I don't think really care. Even if we know, so what... We still can't fight with them with our limited fund. In fact, I think they want us to follow because we can help them to push up or down the price. It's the people who follow last that got slaughtered. 3. In the past, you can only trade by calling your broker. Now you can trade via smart phone. Just because you don't have this information in the past, it does not mean you don't have it now. Check out shareinvestor.com. 4. I'm not interested in BB queues lah. I'm only interested in what they Buy or Short and the volume. Fake queue is just technique used to mislead intraday traders, this should not bother mid to long-term traders.
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capland Veteran	29-Apr-2011 17:45        capland About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	ya slowly by u lo. U control all BBs , i heard.. So maybe ask yr BBs short to $3/- . But give mwe time, i need time to offload my Kepland , CWT , And F@N, and all funds hatam into it...Ok let me know when. But 10 days advance. No last min. pls.. Isolator      ( Date: 29-Apr-2011 17:43) Posted: Slowly slowly... things will be going back to where they escape from.... it has already started to happen early this year....
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Isolator Supreme	29-Apr-2011 17:43        Isolator About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood: Yells: "STI is hard landing to below 2000..."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Slowly slowly... things will be going back to where they escape from.... it has already started to happen early this year....
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capland Veteran	29-Apr-2011 17:42        capland About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	For yr information , i am using SI station... and they dont have such " application" ... HAHAHA ... my code is nel7410...u may check with SI investor ( SPH sub) staff. I think u have more to " learn" . I have been using this thing before it was sold to SPH... hahaha..i thought what " paid application" , actrually the service i was using everyday.... alexchia01      ( Date: 29-Apr-2011 17:38) Posted: 1. Knowing BBs fund movement does not mean you'll make money. It just give you an advantage over others who don't know this information. 2. I don't really know what BBs think, but I don't think really care. Even if we know, so what... We still can't fight with them with our limited fund. In fact, I think they want us to follow because we can help them to push up or down the price. It's the people who follow last that got slaughtered. 3. In the past, you can only trade by calling your broker. Now you can trade via smart phone. Just because you don't have this information in the past, it does not mean you don't have it now. Check out shareinvestor.com. 4. I'm not interested in BB queues lah. I'm only interested in what they Buy or Short and the volume. Fake queue is just technique used to mislead intraday traders, this should not bother mid to long-term traders. capland      ( Date: 29-Apr-2011 16:50) Posted: if this is what u say, why need chart in the 1st place??? please enlighten, since by " so call" paid application get get this information, not u , butg many others can do also... Right... By then, do u think market will move- As BBs movement detacted...do u think they dare to short if everyone knows their moves?? Bbs will move out from singapore market for" good" , as they could not make any monies- everyone knows lao. The ups and downs- caused by BBs movement- and i can tell u even " fund" managers also don know others are moving.. I am very sured about this- cos i am previous working with funds mangers.... Not a single applications can show- what u are saying is onlt the charts showings the volume buys and sells. To whom , u don know. Do u know that a BB can q at 200 lots, in the same time q at 300 lots at sell ??? Just to correct u
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capland Veteran	29-Apr-2011 17:38        capland About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I appreciate. But as i mentioned, no need to worry about this type of trend. 2 rules of investing 1) Know the fundamentals. Invest 20 % , 20%, 30% and last 30% if major falls. 2) Remember rules no 1 May is quiet- but traders need to eat also ma. Who knows this yr maybe a different one... 6 months quiet- is not normal. Either a majoy falls or bulls, no one knows... I just follows my rules... i can tolerate the falls..,.thats all. If cannot-sell lah..make a lose, nothing to feel hurt...Market is a place to test tolerance and endurance . One can hold long one , will see the glory days, those cannot will panick " sell" , profit by the shorters.
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alexchia01 Elite	29-Apr-2011 17:38        alexchia01 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "Catch The Stars And Ride With Them"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	1. Knowing BBs fund movement does not mean you'll make money. It just give you an advantage over others who don't know this information. 2. I don't really know what BBs think, but I don't think really care. Even if we know, so what... We still can't fight with them with our limited fund. In fact, I think they want us to follow because we can help them to push up or down the price. It's the people who follow last that got slaughtered. 3. In the past, you can only trade by calling your broker. Now you can trade via smart phone. Just because you don't have this information in the past, it does not mean you don't have it now. Check out shareinvestor.com. 4. I'm not interested in BB queues lah. I'm only interested in what they Buy or Short and the volume. Fake queue is just technique used to mislead intraday traders, this should not bother mid to long-term traders. capland      ( Date: 29-Apr-2011 16:50) Posted: if this is what u say, why need chart in the 1st place??? please enlighten, since by " so call" paid application get get this information, not u , butg many others can do also... Right... By then, do u think market will move- As BBs movement detacted...do u think they dare to short if everyone knows their moves?? Bbs will move out from singapore market for" good" , as they could not make any monies- everyone knows lao. The ups and downs- caused by BBs movement- and i can tell u even " fund" managers also don know others are moving.. I am very sured about this- cos i am previous working with funds mangers.... Not a single applications can show- what u are saying is onlt the charts showings the volume buys and sells. To whom , u don know. Do u know that a BB can q at 200 lots, in the same time q at 300 lots at sell ??? Just to correct u
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niuyear Supreme	29-Apr-2011 17:36        niuyear About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Capland, Dont waste ur time in rebutting Isolator's posts, cos , his STI 2900 didint realise 2 weeks ago and hence, he has to bet it till its last breadth!!  LOL! Think!!      DOW has picked up 20%, but  we are still hovering at 3100 and 3200.  Are we not still lagging behind??              capland      ( Date: 29-Apr-2011 17:11) Posted: in fact, it is already in placed. Thats why these 2 days sg and hk markets not moving. eplepl      ( Date: 29-Apr-2011 17:08) Posted: ha ha.... i heard china might announce some interest rate hike..... to control property ..... I am keen to support u too !   Btw, the GAR i made some money ! shorting it
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eplepl Master	29-Apr-2011 17:32        eplepl About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	first congratulation on the paper profit and sincerely I hope everyone here make some money.  it is easier to lose than make money in stock market.  maybe we should help one another to make money, I hope u agree. I do agree with you on Jan best month is quite diff this year, and hence the rest of the year might be the same..... may -aug europe got lots of summer holidays break  and might affect import or export.....  china output might drop little due to major holidays.... hence my humble opinion on may ----- could be quite flat.....  maybe june might get better.....   capland      ( Date: 29-Apr-2011 17:24) Posted: i think more likely they will raise the RRR instead of interest rate. If increase the interest rate- currency may increase. Whther up or downs, i am not so concern, all i wish is if goes down, buy more, like today i bough kepland @ 4.11 and ended up 4.17 closing. 0.06 profit ( 30 lots ) . Thats what i means- down and feel good, buy .then,. who will knows which way the market direction. May is the month where everyones avoid- does not mean this yr also, remeber Jan is a good month to vest, but not this yr , right?? Fundamental , after all, is the best bet- rather than listening to all out of the text rumour..." paid applications" ...." special chart" ....." prediction" ....By the way, which " paid application" , i wish to buy also,and maybe change myself to trader...
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capland Veteran	29-Apr-2011 17:30        capland About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	come on my friends. Most forum posters like to say they had shorted - whenever the markets soften. When market up- they never said they had shorted. like myself, ealier when k17 down to 4.11, i posted i vested , right, Be honest- lose means lose. Nothing to worry to lose " face" one lah. Just to learn lesson and experiences nia nia. Maybe next week, down lah, or up leh. Who knows right... oh, maybe the one who piad for the " application: knew. Find out from him ..." wonderful" stuff , can dedect BBs movement- dream to have 1 also..sure huat ha....
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eplepl Master	29-Apr-2011 17:24        eplepl About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	hey ur dream has not come true !  no more earthquake happening  yet ! quite scary right ? china keep coming up with rate hikes..... maybe market is factoring in but short term it will affect the market..... BTW, u have not tell me what price u short it leh ! Joe2020      ( Date: 29-Apr-2011 17:19) Posted: No so much of interest rate. Interest rate up and down happens all the time, market already factored in much earlier but these few days market seems to rebel and showw protest and fund manager pulling out their money and BBs too. The reason being they found out the Isolator is going for Holidays in May....my respect to Isolator...that is why I always short whenever someone challenge him....a sure dip eplepl      ( Date: 29-Apr-2011 17:08) Posted: ha ha.... i heard china might announce some interest rate hike..... to control property ..... I am keen to support u too !   Btw, the GAR i made some money ! shorting it
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capland Veteran	29-Apr-2011 17:24        capland About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	i think more likely they will raise the RRR instead of interest rate. If increase the interest rate- currency may increase. Whther up or downs, i am not so concern, all i wish is if goes down, buy more, like today i bough kepland @ 4.11 and ended up 4.17 closing. 0.06 profit ( 30 lots ) . Thats what i means- down and feel good, buy .then,. who will knows which way the market direction. May is the month where everyones avoid- does not mean this yr also, remeber Jan is a good month to vest, but not this yr , right?? Fundamental , after all, is the best bet- rather than listening to all out of the text rumour..." paid applications" ...." special chart" ....." prediction" ....By the way, which " paid application" , i wish to buy also,and maybe change myself to trader...
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