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KiLrOy
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03-Aug-2007 15:33
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The trend is your friend. If we have just witnessed a trend reversal for SPC why goes again it? No doubt SPC is a good company but it would also be prudent to enter a trade at a correct timing. Would not your chances of winning be better if you go in AFTER a confirmed UPTREND? Is the kopi $ really worth it if the trend happens to continues south? Is that 0.20cts dividend able to cover your capital lost? duhz |
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chinkiasu
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03-Aug-2007 15:25
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i am very certain that for $$kopi, 6.15 is a very good price to go in... |
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KiLrOy
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03-Aug-2007 15:17
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Not at 3.50 lah. What price do you think it will be at XD if prior XD day its 3.50SGD. No one goes chasing after div this way. Its pure stupidity. Mine was bought last year late Oct after a CONFIRMED trend reversal. |
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idesa168
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03-Aug-2007 15:12
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Time to make kopi $$ now! Waiting...waiting!!! |
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nickyng
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03-Aug-2007 14:55
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well if u wan yields..might as well get SINGTEL ... |
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shplayer
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03-Aug-2007 14:52
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Yes, even better yield if it can be bought at $5.00......timing of entry is important..... |
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KiLrOy
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03-Aug-2007 14:47
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Div yield will even better if the share is bought at 5.50. :) So dun jump the gun and start buying now. If today closes at 6.10, a support may be formed but whether or not it sustainable we shall see. |
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shplayer
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03-Aug-2007 14:41
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007, You post makes sense.....perhaps the bear may be gaining a hold of the market. In this scenerio, it may be better to review ones portfolio. For the time being, the days of 'multibagging' pennies within a few months may be a thing of the past. To liquidate and hold all cash may not be the most prudent answer for investment going forward as bank interest is still measily 2-3%. My focus is now back to basics and look at how to get the best yield on my capital. SPC is certainly one of the stocks that has attractive yield......my estimated divvy for FY07 is 20ct interim (confirmed) and 35 ct final....tax free....making it 55cts. This gives a yield of 8.9% (based on $6.20 share price)....which is very attractive and sure beats anything you can get locking up your funds in FD. |
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nickyng
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03-Aug-2007 14:32
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nah din short SPC...@@ at SporeLand and Cityspring....looks SHORTABLE :) hee... |
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chinkiasu
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03-Aug-2007 13:12
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thanks for sharing your views\t 007... it does help us understand the other end of SPC's price spread at this point.. I personally think the assumptions/scenario possible but are too extreme.. besides SPC services the Asian and Australian market... and Ouyong is coming on stream.... I remain vested.. because SPC 1H07 eps is already 56 cts, and 2H07 unlikely to be 0, so price cannot drop below 6.0 |
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idesa168
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03-Aug-2007 11:52
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For those who are optimistic about this counter (i do), hold and don't sell. For those who are pessimistic, please short this counter. The security/broker house have account that you can open and short for as long as you like. Infact if you short high and buy low later, they will pay you interest for the amount you short (double whammy). Short $6 now and buy back at $4 is fat man! The stock mkt require these 2 groups of investors to move the mkt. Those who short, please post here. Nicky do, he is fun! Let's have some fun here, don't wait at the side line, there are $$ to make when mkt moves either way! If not, no party to cheer lei...!!! |
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idesa168
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03-Aug-2007 11:13
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I am seeing SPC trading $9.00 at the end of the year. But I am not too optimistic in the short term, probably range bound trading. If SPC is still trading at $6.00-$6.50 at the end of the year, which means 6X-7X PE, I will sell my pants and buy all I can. Meantime, make some kopi $$ to prevent myself for selling pants at the end of the year. Today no good for kopi $$, very tight range, sure pay broker kopi $$...hehehe! |
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KiLrOy
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03-Aug-2007 10:32
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Today I bought a very BIG MAGNET for 5.50SGD. I hope that magnet will do what it suppose to do. *wink* |
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jkbk007
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03-Aug-2007 10:28
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I expect investor optimism to gradually change to pessimism 1) US economy will continue to weaken. Though not commonly mention it is not just a subprime problem but has spread to prime or Alt-A market. No one know how serious the problem is but it is bad enough to cause a lot of concern. This factor alone should not send US to a recession but 3Q GDP for US should be near weak. My guess is near 0%. 2) Oil is also a second factor that is driving pessimism. The longer oil maintains at it current level or even propels higher, it will drive inflation higher worldwide and impacts the already weakened US economy. One more Katrina like hurricane can easily cause another big market crash. LKY did warned about oil crisis not too long ago. Sadly it is almost certain that we have an oil crisis. It is a matter of when the world decides to acknowledge the problem. You have also posted a news of Russia claiming the North Pole. To me this is a sign of the beginning of an oil conflict and I view this as a problem that is more serious the US subprime problem. 3) Finally refineries runs are up in US. This should drive down RM. RM is down globally. I do not agree to the $6 RM projected by you. I also see possibility of writedown if RM goes negative. With the above factor, market almost always over-react and hence my estimate of low 5 and even 4+. |
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Pinnacle
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03-Aug-2007 10:12
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Maybe he knows that Nicky is targetting SPC. |
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chinkiasu
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03-Aug-2007 09:41
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hi jbk007.. why all the pessimism ..? |
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jkbk007
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03-Aug-2007 08:30
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Yes oil is likely to go up but SPC should be spiraling down to a deep pit of low 5 or even 4+.... |
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chinkiasu
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03-Aug-2007 07:40
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News just out..... for whatever it is worth and for whatever relevance & effect it will render to our super laggard SPC stock price Oil prices rise From correspondents in New York August 03, 2007 05:49am New York's main futures contract, light sweet crude for delivery in September, closed up 33 cents at $US76.86 per barrel. The contract had soared to $US78.77 in yesterday's trading after the US Department of Energy (DoE) reported that US crude stockpiles sank 6.5 million barrels in the week ended July 27. That was almost six times more than market forecasts predicting a fall of 1.13 million barrels, and sparked concern over tight global energy supplies, traders said. In London, the price of Brent North Sea crude for September delivery settled up 41 cents at $US75.76 per barrel. The DoE had also revealed yesterday that US refinery utilization rates rose to 93.6 per cent in the week to July 27 - their highest level in 11 months. Some analysts said the increase in refinery rates had been initially overlooked by speculators, who focused on the larger-than-expected drop in oil stocks. However, they soon switched focus to the rise in refining rates that resulted in an increase in both US gasoline (petrol) and distillates stockpiles. Prices remained underpinned by low US crude stocks, geopolitical tensions, risks to supply from the North Atlantic hurricane season and OPEC's seeming reluctance to increase output, analysts said. "Increasing (US) crude oil demand and decreasing imports outstripped the market consensus," Societe Generale analysts said of the DoE report. Higher prices this week have also sparked fresh calls from the International Energy Agency for oil producers' group OPEC to increase its production. OPEC members, who supply about 40 per cent of the world's crude, insist that recent gains in prices are not due to tight supply. OPEC has resisted previous IEA calls to pump more crude to keep oil prices down. The next OPEC meeting is scheduled on September 11 in Vienna. This week's all-time high in New York topped the previous record of $US78.40 set on July 13, 2006 amid violence between Israel and Lebanon. |
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KiLrOy
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02-Aug-2007 19:10
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This type of tactics also can. ROFL.. Two Russian mini-submarines have reached the seabed below the North Pole as part of the Kremlin''s efforts to strengthen the nation''s energy security and expand its global clout to symbolically claim rich Arctic resources.Scientists aboard the Mir-I and Mir-II plan to carry out tests and drop a metal capsule containing the Russian flag, 4,200m or 14,000ft on the seabed.The two mini-submarines were brought to the North Pole by the atomic icebreaker Rossiya and a Russian scientific research vessel, the Akademik Federov.A Russian official said the "risky and heroic" mission was comparable to "putting a flag on the Moon".The move is intended to bolster Moscow''s claims to almost 1.2 million square kilometers of the Arctic shelf, which is estimated to contain 10 billion tons of oil and gas deposits.The expedition comes at a time when rivalry between Russia, the United States, Canada, Denmark and other nations whose shores face the northern polar ocean for vast potential riches hidden in the Arctic is intensifying. |
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KiLrOy
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02-Aug-2007 15:55
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cks sir, the only shelter (profit protecting measures) for my portfolio is the equity curve of moving averages of x days. Once it hit that curve, profit stop kicks in. I think some will be kicking in real soon with the constant bombardment. :( |
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