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skimskim Member	28-Oct-2013 10:04        skimskim About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This is good info. Vantage is in prime land - so the units would be $1m and above anyway. Its a good time to accumulate... leftovers      ( Date: 28-Oct-2013 09:56) Posted: RM1 MILLLION RESTRICTION ON FOREIGNERS Paragon suites, the nearby condo development has units in the following sizes: 1BR - 641 to 671sqf 2BR - 909 to 988 sqf 3+1BR - 1381 - 1695 sqf 3+2BR - 1482 sqf We can assume Vantage Bay to offer similar size units. Expected PSF for Vantage bay is RM1,150. Given that Paragon Suites is currently trading at RM1,050 - RM 1,200 psf. Source: OCBC Investment Research paper, pp 14    *** Therefore, units affected by the new restriction on foreigners would be the 1BR units - the more common 2BR units start from RM1.045m and above.  This restriction is more relevant for weaker property offerings. It's impact on Rowsley's Vantage Bay would not be damaging, a speed bump at best. Alternatively, it could provide a price support point for similar grade properties in Iskandar.
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aysaibey Member	28-Oct-2013 10:01        aysaibey About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Yells: "Listen to the Wind. - Kungfu Master."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	OMG. The fishes will be frightened off by such a big jerk.
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leftovers Member	28-Oct-2013 09:56        leftovers About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	RM1 MILLLION RESTRICTION ON FOREIGNERS Paragon suites, the nearby condo development has units in the following sizes: 1BR - 641 to 671sqf 2BR - 909 to 988 sqf 3+1BR - 1381 - 1695 sqf 3+2BR - 1482 sqf We can assume Vantage Bay to offer similar size units. Expected PSF for Vantage bay is RM1,150. Given that Paragon Suites is currently trading at RM1,050 - RM 1,200 psf. Source: OCBC Investment Research paper, pp 14    *** Therefore, units affected by the new restriction on foreigners would be the 1BR units - the more common 2BR units start from RM1.045m and above.  This restriction is more relevant for weaker property offerings. It's impact on Rowsley's Vantage Bay would not be damaging, a speed bump at best. Alternatively, it could provide a price support point for similar grade properties in Iskandar.
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oldflyingfox Master	28-Oct-2013 09:34        oldflyingfox About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Now is at the key support at 29.5. If broken then will be bad, else this may be a low entry point.
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Bintang Elite	28-Oct-2013 09:20        Bintang About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Technical   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	There was a gap created at 26.5 cents on 24 Dec2012 not filled yet .
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takemenow Member	28-Oct-2013 08:29        takemenow About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Before the next GE in BUMi land, more taxes for foreigners including properties. Watch out. It has happened. It will happen again.
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JexxeLivermore Member	28-Oct-2013 07:50        JexxeLivermore About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Again some folks trying to cause panic saying gap down etc. Buy on gap down if it happened . When Sentosa Cove launched at over 1k psf , I thought was mad. Now I confirmed I was in missing the run to over 3k. Iskandar with all the new restrictions n rules I believe it will still be demanded . No issue if Arabs are not coming . The Chinese will. I am vested and also worried about being wrong. So those with evil intention to cause panic please stop.
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rabbitfoot Veteran	28-Oct-2013 07:21        rabbitfoot About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Wow! Good writer. You can start your own investment blog interfact      ( Date: 27-Oct-2013 23:39) Posted: When will S?poreans realise that property is cheap in Johor for a gd reason? The rules are suka suka changed after S?poreans bot into the latest BS. But first some predictions: ? The infrastructure promised for Iskandar will remain that: a promise. Ask the S?porean investors who bot into the BS over the promised east coast developments near Pasir Gudang. They are still waiting, after 20 myrs. Meanwhile the BS caravan moved on to Iskandar.At first, S?poreans were sceptical, but finally succumbed to the BS, after the Arabs refused to buy into Iskandar?s tales of wealth. Now the caravan will move further north, along the corridor for the high-speed train. S?poreans get fleeced, and suffer in silence, the caravan moves on. ? If God didn?t want them sheared, he would not have made them sheep,? the bandit chief in the Magnificent Seven. Malaysia?s Budget 2014 means more expensive homes for foreigners with higher taxes and a doubling of the minimum price of properties to RM1 million (S$391,000). The most severe measure is a 30% real property gains tax (RPGT) that will be levied on gains on property disposed within three years, Disposals within four and five years are to be taxed at 20 and 15%, respectively. And at 5% in the sixth and subsequent years for non-citizens. These taxes are, it seems, higher than anticipated. Currently, the RPGT rate for property disposals within two years is 15%, while the level for disposals between two to five years is 10%. Note that Medini in the Iskandar special economic zone is now more attractive to investors as it is exempt from taxes.So if got property there, can relax until further notice: this is M?sia. In M?sia foreigners get shafted. In S?pore. locals get screwed. Add to this the tax that the state of Johor plans to levy*, and S?poreans who bot properties in Iskandar hoping to make $ will not be too happy. Future buyers will be deterred too. Would like to draw attention that most of Iskandar is in a DAP-controlled constituency. DAP?s heloo is one LKY. Now these measures mean UMNO-dominated govts at the Federal and Johor will make sure voters and S?poreans repent. Hehehe. TRE once wrote: Some issues are beginning to surface as highlighted in a recent Business Times article which said that investors are not getting assurances in black and white on issues like land zoning, mortgage loan quantums and Bumiputra employment quotas, among others. Foreigners investing in Iskandar might do better if they can understand that most policies in Malaysia are instituted by politicians of the day. When the politician leaves, a new policy replacing the old one is to be expected. When doing business in Johor, one has to factor in such risks. Remember that Putrajaya, the state administrative capital of Malaysia, is still struggling after more than 20 years in the making. When Iskandar was mooted in 2006, authorities were confident about getting funds from Middle Eastern investors. Obviously, that plan didn?t work out and the focus is now back to Singaporean investors. Interesting to see the u/m projects reported by BT yesterday go ahead: [U]nits of three local firms ? Tat Hong Holdings, Boustead Singapore and CSC Holdings ? have set up a joint venture with AME Group to develop land in Iskandar Malaysia. Boustead will own 35 per cent of the joint-venture firm, named Tat Hong Industrial Properties Sdn Bhd (THIP), through its unit BP Lands, for a paid-up capital of RM3.5 million (S$1.4 million). The Johor-based AME Group, which has a division that specialises in real estate development, will also own 35 per cent. It will do so through its unit AME Land Sdn Bhd for the same amount in paid-up capital.
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GorgeousOng Elite	28-Oct-2013 05:31        GorgeousOng About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Hehehaha...enjoy life n live to the fullest..."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	My experience with buying properties in Malaysia: 1)Must buy properties that have completed...but not just a plan that....AKAN DATANG.... 2) Who is the developer? 3) Too cheap or too good to be true Cheers!!!!
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interfact Member	27-Oct-2013 23:39        interfact About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	When will S?poreans realise that property is cheap in Johor for a gd reason? The rules are suka suka changed after S?poreans bot into the latest BS. But first some predictions: ? The infrastructure promised for Iskandar will remain that: a promise. Ask the S?porean investors who bot into the BS over the promised east coast developments near Pasir Gudang. They are still waiting, after 20 myrs. Meanwhile the BS caravan moved on to Iskandar.At first, S?poreans were sceptical, but finally succumbed to the BS, after the Arabs refused to buy into Iskandar?s tales of wealth. Now the caravan will move further north, along the corridor for the high-speed train. S?poreans get fleeced, and suffer in silence, the caravan moves on. ? If God didn?t want them sheared, he would not have made them sheep,? the bandit chief in the Magnificent Seven. Malaysia?s Budget 2014 means more expensive homes for foreigners with higher taxes and a doubling of the minimum price of properties to RM1 million (S$391,000). The most severe measure is a 30% real property gains tax (RPGT) that will be levied on gains on property disposed within three years, Disposals within four and five years are to be taxed at 20 and 15%, respectively. And at 5% in the sixth and subsequent years for non-citizens. These taxes are, it seems, higher than anticipated. Currently, the RPGT rate for property disposals within two years is 15%, while the level for disposals between two to five years is 10%. Note that Medini in the Iskandar special economic zone is now more attractive to investors as it is exempt from taxes.So if got property there, can relax until further notice: this is M?sia. In M?sia foreigners get shafted. In S?pore. locals get screwed. Add to this the tax that the state of Johor plans to levy*, and S?poreans who bot properties in Iskandar hoping to make $ will not be too happy. Future buyers will be deterred too. Would like to draw attention that most of Iskandar is in a DAP-controlled constituency. DAP?s heloo is one LKY. Now these measures mean UMNO-dominated govts at the Federal and Johor will make sure voters and S?poreans repent. Hehehe. TRE once wrote: Some issues are beginning to surface as highlighted in a recent Business Times article which said that investors are not getting assurances in black and white on issues like land zoning, mortgage loan quantums and Bumiputra employment quotas, among others. Foreigners investing in Iskandar might do better if they can understand that most policies in Malaysia are instituted by politicians of the day. When the politician leaves, a new policy replacing the old one is to be expected. When doing business in Johor, one has to factor in such risks. Remember that Putrajaya, the state administrative capital of Malaysia, is still struggling after more than 20 years in the making. When Iskandar was mooted in 2006, authorities were confident about getting funds from Middle Eastern investors. Obviously, that plan didn?t work out and the focus is now back to Singaporean investors. Interesting to see the u/m projects reported by BT yesterday go ahead: [U]nits of three local firms ? Tat Hong Holdings, Boustead Singapore and CSC Holdings ? have set up a joint venture with AME Group to develop land in Iskandar Malaysia. Boustead will own 35 per cent of the joint-venture firm, named Tat Hong Industrial Properties Sdn Bhd (THIP), through its unit BP Lands, for a paid-up capital of RM3.5 million (S$1.4 million). The Johor-based AME Group, which has a division that specialises in real estate development, will also own 35 per cent. It will do so through its unit AME Land Sdn Bhd for the same amount in paid-up capital.
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rabbitfoot Veteran	27-Oct-2013 21:54        rabbitfoot About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Tomorrow morning gap down
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Gonggongtry Member	27-Oct-2013 19:51        Gonggongtry About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	me happy happy buy hope to sell at 0.60 hope this counter don't make me go gong gong
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wendel Master	27-Oct-2013 19:07        wendel About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Guys...nothing to worry abt. Johorian ald know that gov tested properties taxation raise on few occasions...so developers shld hv factored in such challenges. Also to note that GST doesn't apply to properties. lglg666      ( Date: 27-Oct-2013 18:45) Posted: He just talk here talk there when market is not doing well to cause fear and panic. When market is doing fine....he go AWOL with his other clones. GorgeousOng      ( Date: 27-Oct-2013 18:14) Posted: You keep talk talk... Tonight I must thick thick skin call Datin Ong oredi to find out more... I am vested...how arh? Cheers!!!!
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lglg666 Veteran	27-Oct-2013 18:45        lglg666 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	He just talk here talk there when market is not doing well to cause fear and panic. When market is doing fine....he go AWOL with his other clones. GorgeousOng      ( Date: 27-Oct-2013 18:14) Posted: You keep talk talk... Tonight I must thick thick skin call Datin Ong oredi to find out more... I am vested...how arh? Cheers!!!! CWC2929      ( Date: 27-Oct-2013 17:37) Posted:   Most miscalculated " BUMi" ........misunderstood BuMi pattern...............including PL  So before investing in BUMI land   pls do more homework on so called " Malay--Sia"
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Solidrock Member	27-Oct-2013 18:44        Solidrock About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	666 Rowsley counter should know.too. Senior  27-Oct-2013 16:12     About lglg666     Contact       Quote!             x 0    x 0  Alert AdminThanks bro Vardprop for this, to the rest I believed after reading thru all these u may understand what the central and local gov really want for Iskandar. Of course....if things got too heated eg property price, they may have to come out to say something to calm their own citizens that can be expected of for any good gov ( ours included ). It's a political thingy, for u and me then just take it as noises. It will go away soon. The most important when u invest, pls understand why it makes u want to buy....if for gambling then it's hit and run thing, must stay very nimble. If for investment thingy...then u got to think longer term and to buy on dips. No chasing.....very patient, once in then it can be weeks or months before selling. If that is the case....it's best u must able to tell the different of a potentially good investment from a bad one. So pls don't let the RM$1 mil property thingy put u off the stock market or cause u sleepless nights. The elites and backers esp of Iskandar got more to lose than us if the whole project end up as a white elephant. If we lose....after a few beers and a bad hang over, we pick ourselves up and move on. But for the elites and backers....they lost everything eg mistresses, money, family, respect, fame, name, reputation and almost everything they had accumulated....even their life.    ( Date: 27-Oct-2013 14:35) Posted:  I think if we look at the long term.. These small restrictions are inconsequential  Iskandar Malaysia to benefit directly from Budget  JOHOR BAHRU, Oct 25 (Bernama) -- Iskandar Malaysia will benefit directly from the economic and community focused 2014 Budget as announced by Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak, said Iskandar Regional Development Authority (IRDA).  Its chief executive Prof Datuk Ismail Ibrahim congratulated the Prime Minister, saying the budget included various initiatives and incentives aimed at elevating the quality of life of the rakyat.  " We would also like to convey our heartfelt thanks and gratitude to the Prime Minister for allocating RM 1.6 billion for all the five economic corridors, including Iskandar Malaysia, for 2014.  " We appreciate the support and this would definitely assist in bringing Iskandar Malaysia's development to greater heights," he said in statement here today.  According to Ismail, he looked forward to the launch of the Service Sector Blueprint next year which would include sub-sectors such as logistics, aviation and tourism, which are also promoted services sectors in Iskandar Malaysia.  He also lauded the government's commitment to continue to encourage investments in the economic corridors by providing basic infrastructure and implementing high-impact projects.  " IRDA is committed to improve the infrastructure in Iskandar Malaysia, not only in terms of hard infrastructure such as roads and highways but also to enhance telecommunications and power supply," he said.  That is why IRDA, he said, welcomed the high-speed broadband project which has been given attention in the 2014 Budget as Iskandar Malaysia would be benefiting tremendously from the initiative.  On the significant emphasis given to tourism, he said this would also impact the region directly as tourism was one of the nine promoted sectors in Iskandar Malaysia.  " We are positive that Iskandar Malaysia would contribute highly to the 28 million visitor target set by the Prime Minister for Visit Malaysia Year 2014, especially with the existing catalytic projects such Legoland Malaysia and its recently opened Waterpark, Johor Premium Outlets and the Puteri Harbour Family Theme Park, just to mention a few," said Ismail.    ( Date: 27-Oct-2013 14:04) Posted:  Thanks bro...my take for Abel. The impact will not be too bad due to the fact that its land bank is huge and they build mainly for the locals, their cost of land is dirt cheap. Their profits are still high just to sell to local meaning their aim is mid and low cost housing and commercial. For that....local demand should still be there and well supported. So what is the big worry about the RM$1mil thingy?? Just remember that in any form of gambling or investing....there will be ppl out there to create doubts and panics so that they can profit from the " chickens and Ikan ibris" . My 2 cts advice....never be food for the BB or sharks out there. Always trade within your means, dont chase after stocks and no contra then stay your ground once vested, the good times is just ahead....Xmas and CNY CWC2929      ( Date: 27-Oct-2013 17:37) Posted:   Most miscalculated " BUMi" ........misunderstood BuMi pattern...............including PL  So before investing in BUMI land   pls do more homework on so called " Malay--Sia"
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GorgeousOng Elite	27-Oct-2013 18:14        GorgeousOng About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Hehehaha...enjoy life n live to the fullest..."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You keep talk talk... Tonight I must thick thick skin call Datin Ong oredi to find out more... I am vested...how arh? Cheers!!!! CWC2929      ( Date: 27-Oct-2013 17:37) Posted:   Most miscalculated " BUMi" ........misunderstood BuMi pattern...............including PL  So before investing in BUMI land   pls do more homework on so called " Malay--Sia"
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takemenow Member	27-Oct-2013 17:27        takemenow About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The political scene in M'sia may change for the worst for foreigners esp Singa people. More taxes, more GST, more levies for properties bought by foreigners, more... and more....
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CWC2929 Senior	27-Oct-2013 17:15        CWC2929 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	TAHKS in Advance ya Sifu..........
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CWC2929 Senior	27-Oct-2013 17:10        CWC2929 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If can........i beg for those deep pocket Sifu here to support on Monday ya.........so that the lau uncle lau auntie can soon soon unload fist ya.......... sometime pity them lah.......cos they blur blur follow you Ya.......so must let them unload fist ya..........
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CWC2929 Senior	27-Oct-2013 16:48        CWC2929 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	happy happy to inform you that me never shorted SGX stocks .....if short more on US stocks.....cos SGX...... NO CHALLENGING.... Just FYI......." Common Sense" the Tools.....The Simple tools that sometime enough to predict the movement of the stocks markets.........     Sardin      ( Date: 27-Oct-2013 10:33) Posted: Are u the shortie? why so excited in this news? LoL  Iskandar is a Long term project lah.. Ai Zai! :)   CWC2929      ( Date: 27-Oct-2013 01:03) Posted:                   Cut and run..........mai tu liao............             At current price shortis already Mr. TAN KU KU liao..........................................................................................
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