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niuyear
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13-Jun-2011 10:01
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The way you post and declare making profits here everyday, is an envy of everyone here (even the 2 famous persons i suppose if they happen to read your posts here). Looks like way past the wealth of many. The 2 famous persons we all know: 1) Warrent Buffet - an investor 2) George Soro - a true blue trader (shorted the Pounds, created havoc in Thai baht)
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capland
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13-Jun-2011 09:57
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don come bluff bluff la. when i asked u whether u bested when the price at 3.00. u refused to commit- show s that u did not open any position, cos u scare being boom. Now price drop, u come ot and say u vested ...show us proof...le...u every time ust the same tactic one. roti-prata man....this is what we chinses say " 2 head snake" .....when stable- no reply, when up u say u " ealier close" n when down , u said u ealier :shot" wow lao, like that how i going to follow u, u never commit, and if i were to believe u, wait i lose money not u le....prooof...proof...proof
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rotijai
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13-Jun-2011 09:54
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btw.. master isolator, i am just curious yes cpl is in downward trend.. does tat mean tat it might go down to below 2? or even below 1? when there's no financial crisis or smth major happening? there must be a point where reversal happens?
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capland
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13-Jun-2011 09:52
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good morning , my ah wah... how is yr day? feel abit " sian" , should have short when at 3.00? ... i just bought at 2.90....feel a bit good...maybe for trading buy if rebound as u had recommended. good day | ||||
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Isolator
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13-Jun-2011 09:49
Yells: "STI is hard landing to below 2000..." |
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Mr Fool, no matter what you write and copy from.... CPL will still be going down..... You seems to be just a follower of some analysts... I think by now, have you got 1000lots already since you mentioned you will keep buying... 100lots each time.... As for me, I have bought back 80% of my shorts.... Very pathetic only can earned around 16ct.... Unlike you always earning millions... |
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jester
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13-Jun-2011 09:45
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Should Drop Further. | ||||
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13-Jun-2011 09:41
Yells: "Let's Wait" |
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dropping like shit....So? Still waiting for better price. | ||||
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iPunter
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12-Jun-2011 12:29
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When to buy and sell stocks (any stock) depends on market sentiment, NOT fundamentals..  |
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ozone2002
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12-Jun-2011 12:24
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CAPLAND!!dirt cheap! .. Maintaining high supply in 2H11 GLS • Strong pipeline maintained for 2H11 GLS • Rising medium term inventory to cap price upside • Prefer diversifieds with strong balance sheet such as UOL and Capitaland No surprise, ample low-end residential supply. As expected, a strong pipeline of residential supply is maintained in the 2H11 Government Land Sale (GLS) programme in response to the need to provide more mass market housing and the govt’s intention to keep accelerating prices in check. A total of 19 Confirmed and 24 Reserve list sites with a potential of 14,195 housing units (incl 2,320 ECs, 16% of total), 267,400sm of commercial GFA and 3,750 hotel rooms were introduced, of which 20 sites were carried over from 1H11 GLS. As per the latest list, 8,115 residential homes, 435 hotel rooms and 110,950sm GFA of commercial space are on the Confirmed list, on par with the quantum in the 1H11 GLS. Most of the sites are in suburban areas with a couple of new locations such as the Jervois Rd site (with a potential for 140 units) and the Marina View commercial parcel with 101,400sm GFA that could see high developer interest. To keep with the momentum in the Paya Lebar commercial hub, a 0.74msf commercial land plot along Sims Ave/Tanjong Katong Rd has b een moved to the Confirmed List. Medium term housing inventory rising. Adjusting for the latest figures, residential completions of 68,887 units (of which 50% is unsold/not launched for sale at this point) from 2Q11- > 2015 will take the market 5.6 years to digest the new homes based on last 5-year average demand of 12,240 units. Inclusive of the targeted launch of 26,000 HDB housing units to be offered by the govt this year, medium term stock is on the rise. This should cap mass market housing prices in the medium term. As for office supply, MND estimates there is 7.6msf of G FA to be completed between 2Q11 and 2013. Bottom-up stock picking strategy. We expect developers to be selective in their land bidding activities and bid prices going forward as they replenish their much-depleted landholdings and in view of the capped price upside. In terms of valuations, the sector is trading at a 29% discount to RNAV, which is slightly below the –0.5SD to mean level. At this point we believe much of the headwinds appear to have been factored in but near term catalysts are lacking and stocks could trade range bound. We would adopt a bottom-up stock picking strategy and prefer companies with a diversified business model and strong balance sheet capacity to acquire sites selectively such as UOL and Capitaland. The latter is a large cap laggard trading at 0.91x P/Bk NAV |
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Hulumas
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12-Jun-2011 10:50
Yells: "INVEST but not TRADE please!" |
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I prefer to be an Investor to Trader! 70 : 30 chance of Win and Lose respectively and non vice-versa!
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New123
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11-Jun-2011 18:48
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1. Investor - will buy into a stock base on the stock intrinsic value + other factors. Long term target for a stock will always goes back to its intrinsic value or higher...Time is the factor. There is no quick way to get rich. Discipline and buy when they see the value is well below this intrinsic value. I think the intrinsic value for Capitaland is about $3.70 and the current price of $2.96 is quite attractive giving an upside potential of about 20% or more. 2. Trader - will act /trade base on the mkt situation. Be it up or down they trade base on the stock TA or other factors that may help them to buy or sell . I think usually they do not hold the stock for too long... I guess trader will need to monitor the stock very closely every now and then to make their decision whether to reckon a buy or sell... They made a profit or sometime cut losses depends on the situation. |
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capland
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11-Jun-2011 17:10
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to ah wah, rest in peace, i will retreat my future posting. and we shall see in . Let time be our witness. but if u need me, i will chat with u. My pure advise to all trader, thinking of getting a " quick ' money in market , will not succeed , cos market has been here before un and me. And traders( indivdual) will finally disappear. This stock market is not for " quick" money, they are built in the way to con yr monies , by furnishing all news (negativea and good). Those news we are reading is already " old" news.. they already been known by the world funds managers. So before we knew, they already take actions. we are always the " last" to know.... The only method to avoid being " con" is to hold long, as they don have any :spot: to con long term investor- as when prices down, we hold tight, they bobian , knowing that we are " rock crab" and eventually they gave up, and bring the price up..so these funds traders are is our saviu- they create" bargain" for us... We could hold long, but they could not- due to their company polices. Thats is the reason why buffet " take over" hathaway- a textile comapny- not for the business but for his own investment, So not under SEC control. as they can hold long ...and be a shareholders. | ||||
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capland
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11-Jun-2011 16:51
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and most of all, ah wah is still a pal , even he always against my thought. I treated this forum to share experience , not in predicting prive movement, But shared the thoughts of investing, and knowlege. I am a fool, and thats why i still think i must learn from others their thoughts of the world envirnoment. Don follow others, is my advise, reseach the company fundamental 1st, then look at the price for yr entries. For those , ah wah, when ask to commit at the present price, he chose not to commit, but when price down, he always boasted that he " shorted" and how clever he is.. but when the price up- again he saoid he " already" closed his position. So judge yrself. Is he saying the truth, or just trying to " fool: others. A simple way- state the price NOW whther it is short or long, and see whether he is right. Maybe u guys 'corner" him and i sured he will not commit..Show how smart he. is..and a big liar...No one in this earth can predict the future...i working on 7851 tonite. if it comes out,,,,i may be famous tomorow...try la, maybe my inst is true this time... |
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capland
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11-Jun-2011 16:42
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as for present situation, one has to look beyond the downturn.1) whether US is really going for the double dips, just becos the latest figure shows? it does not shows anything, 1 season down does not mean the world will doom. 2) Europe crisis- already old news..PIGS is the same as 2010..and they still there. 3) China property bubble- how seriious ? 4) middle east turmoil- is it mtotivated by the US, since most of them are enemy from the US. Analsis carefully, judge yrself, and ask the professional. Suggest u read " financial times" and Newsweek. They are neutral bodies, and they don take sides. They had coomend that the US figures was chosen to make it :ugly" so to push for debt ceiling, with pressure from the FED- debt ceiling will will increase , see next month - good news will unveal.. i predict 1) us ceiling will again raise, and printing of more money will begin 2) FED will use another term , just to print more money and buying up their bonds. 3) china finally stop monetary policy, as inflation will ease. \This is my guessing, and it is not to say CPL will go up. But i can say the world will return to where it is. |
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capland
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11-Jun-2011 16:29
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most people may think differently from mine.. and think i am a fool, just commiting in CPL. But i look far beyond than Ah Wah.. Traders look short term profit, and i look in a comapny value. Ah Wah , do u know what CPL direction? their Rate of return in sharesholders? i bet u don, cos u do look at chart and charts show it is in downtrend. For me, it is a pure oppunity to buy such a good company, with low pricing. Thats is good about stock markets, for us to look for bargain. I had kept CPL when it was 1.00 , and hold for 10 yrs, and sell above 6.00. This trade gives me profit , that one has to work for their whole life. at that time, most people commend that that singapore properties is dying,, and shun away.. but i entered and profit generously. Even OCBC, F@N, and even Keppelcorp. i don look for short term gain- as it is using a " big knife" cutting " small tree'" ( ah wah doing. ), i look at using " small knife, cutiing big big trees" . for those who are new, and yet to decides, i suggest u go do some reseach in the properties market from 1970s to 2009. u may get a bigger pictures, and try ask those towkays , who invested in properties..they will say the same as i told u. in this world , some business will not die, 1) oil industry 2) gaming 3) properties and last the oldest industry on earth- prositiution. the trade is already there before u and me were borned. These are the " old industry" that will survive for the next 1000 yrs, till the world has ended...Even i am staying from the house " built" by my grandfather, and a piece of land.that cost only 300 in the 1940s. Now it is worth 1000x more, and i believe it will worth another 1000x when my great-grandchildren inherit from me.. for sure.. Look far, and u will be another successful investor. Why worry about the price down, it will not down forever..but land will appreciate in times to come... i also bought land in thailand, (using my thai wife) in the 80s. now it is worth many many times. This is my whole-life experinces in land and properties cycle. Ah wah , this is a valuable lesson to u, maybe ..u disagree , and history shows, and it won change...for sure... advise u to look far beyond , and yr income will generat more u earnings now... |
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iPunter
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11-Jun-2011 16:23
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Capland is very knowledgeable about the propery scene. A very good and useful post. |
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capland
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11-Jun-2011 16:10
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and to those has " mix up" properties from foreign countries n singapore. Others had bigger land and less population per ratio. In singapore , properties has their " down" mostly affected by the world recession. Singapore land is always valuable. I can tell u when there is a double dip receession- the properties will not do back to the pre 2008-9 level. I bet on it. Even the HDB announcing the lastest measures, i visited a few new lauch- the pricing is still at 1000 level, and even 1200 psf for a FH. Remember,that the new measures is to " slow" the HDB price from skyrocketing. As i mention, in 2008-9. a 3 rm was selling a mere 170k, but just 3 yrs later, irt hit 400k. Thats is worrying trend for new wed, and poor family. Now, local are frustrated cos they merely, could not afford that kind of monies. But this world is cruel. Govt will not try " all out" just to make u happy, by diminishing their countries revenue, if so, why not reduce gst instead, right. and increased hospital subsidy? ask any one- what is their wish , by working in the society. 1) a big house, bigger the better 2) cars., bigger than better. Unlike fools like us, we old generations, at that time, just buy house , not for investment, just for a roof for our family, and want to pay as fast as possible. So if the govt willing to reduce " the loan " period to 20yrs max, i believed properties will go down the next day, for sure. So mr isolator, u have not study the properties in singapore in details, and harshly say properties will crash, yes , but not here. trend are showing 1) funds are moving in soon . cos they realised that that the properties is still the best hedging to inflations. 2) with all turmoils and stabilty around the world- i can say singapore is the best in buying propeties, and the next is KL (coming up soon) .Sign can be seen KL is ramming up its position. , for the next properties bull. 3) All properties counters , have best analysists , they will not simply but properies without taking any calculations and forsight. Foreigners has been coming each month- just to seek a place to stay in singapore. And our govt will not turn them away, for sure. Our govt had created and spent so much resourses to " beautify" here, what is their motives? They just want more to come and stay ...
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capland
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11-Jun-2011 15:51
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For a shoe polisher to buy a property- that is his 1st dream.In fact, for every singaporean dream- who don want to owe a private property. They just couldnt afford to buy- even during the crisis, when FH unit went down to $600 psf, they still could not afford to. For even a 600psf, a unit may cost up to 700k. Ah wah , u maybe the one, wanting to owe an apartment, too. In here, even u have the downpayment, the banks still needs others document to prove, whether u can afford to finance yr unit. This is called " safty net" for banks. I can only say- the govt is not trying to cool the market, as they knew well that if more land are sold, developers will absorb them all. Further , they have the cash to " hold" the land , if the time is unfavourable. CDL, CPL, and many big developers always have the " upper" hand, as they had fat cash...and they could extend the developement period, by request from the SLA. If one look at it seriously, the govt is trying to " sweeten" the voters fear- as housing is the main issue in our last election. In time to come, properties is still the best investment in singapore- land is always the most valuable asset in singapore, and thats is our " only" resourses for income , for our country income. Do u know how much our propertoes revenue takes up our yrly govt revenues? it is nearly 40%. contributed to GIC funds. No one , minsters dare to implement polices that will hurt this revenue- and thats why there is a clause that the authority had the right to withdraw bids, if they find the bidding price is too low.. Thats show how much important the properties revenue to our govt. Another signal- why our new HDB boss, proposed to sell more lands . to build more private propeties than to their HDB. COs HDB fetch lower income than to private sale. If the govt really wants to cool the housing measures. 1) Allocate more land in building HDB . And build more 3 rooms flat.. 2) reverse lending back to HDB rather than the commerial banks. 3) No limitation on income ceiling. So if a household earnings more than the current 8000, they could even can buy a 3 room flat. I believe a lot of family who has that income, do not mind living in a 3 room flat. Because they could save more income, and have more money for retirement. to be continue
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Gaecia
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11-Jun-2011 01:24
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LOL! Reali nutty Warren! Isolator and Capland will not be laughing until upside down for sure, unlike the rest of us. |
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warrenbegger
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11-Jun-2011 01:03
Yells: "Anyhow Buy Anyhow Die ^_^" |
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In the name of STI, Dow Jones and Hang Seng. U 2 must love each other deep deep, no matter who bankrupt first, or kanna burn like siao. U 2 must long or short together, no matter bear, bull or cow, U 2 must pamper the same animal. And now U 2 shall wet kiss and caress each others, no matter who climax first, shoikness will be with U 2. Under the blessing of holy warrenbagger. And I hereby now shall announce Capland and Isolator husband and wife. Cheers! Gratz to both of U :) |
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