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ynnek1267 Master	22-Jan-2013 10:03        ynnek1267 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	What price you want? We will short it down for you. Wahahaha!!!!! Hawkeye      ( Date: 22-Jan-2013 10:00) Posted: Hi Shortis Thank you very much. I can load YZJ at low price like previous years and last year espeacially. Looks this year another big profit on the way.
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Hawkeye Veteran	22-Jan-2013 10:00        Hawkeye About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hi Shortis Thank you very much. I can load YZJ at low price like previous years and last year espeacially. Looks this year another big profit on the way.
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ynnek1267 Master	22-Jan-2013 09:46        ynnek1267 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You will get it soon. We shortists have told you our plan. We will ensure you lose your confidence after you get your 92cents. Wahahaha!!!!! NoMoney      ( Date: 22-Jan-2013 09:13) Posted: Short to 0.92 pls I que at that price pls sell me that price he he
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ynnek1267 Master	22-Jan-2013 09:43        ynnek1267 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Leisure time for shortist. We shortist remove the sell queue from 99cents to 1.005 with less than 1000 lots to let all of the frogs happily buy up but no buyer at all. Wahahaha!!!! Where is your confidence? Post so much good news, why never buy up? Wahahaha!!!!!
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NoMoney Veteran	22-Jan-2013 09:13        NoMoney About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Short to 0.92 pls I que at that price pls sell me that price he he
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Hawkeye Veteran	22-Jan-2013 09:05        Hawkeye About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yangzijiang, Quality Goods Cheap Sale! Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha LOL
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akchua Senior	22-Jan-2013 08:30        akchua About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hi Cheongsl,   Of course they are not work of ynnek, he cant even differentiate between warrants and right issue. He is just some clown who shorted YZJ using leverage and living in fear now. Anyway, YZJ has received many email from investors regarding these market rumour about encountering cash flow problem etc. Under SGX regulation, they will have to do an announcement soon to clarify these rumour. If they are not true, investors confidence will be restored and shorties will be choked to death trying to cover their shorts. Meanwhile, let them short further and load up cheap stock while await for YZJ announcement. cheongsl      ( Date: 22-Jan-2013 06:27) Posted: To my believe this should not be the work of ynnek, as he don't seems to have the knowledge of market, maybe just a follower or message in the institute play. But yesterday I observe something that is abnormal in short seller action that is short sell in the afternoon with large volume, after 3pm with 250lots and 308lots which seems like not enough seller for them to cover the large volume that they short sell in the morning. so at 3pm, they seems like still unable to cover the short position, thus have to generate another round of short selling after 3pm, that is quite a desperate action. But anyway I will still be queueing at 0.945 for my next pick to try my luck. But whether this short sell is generate by citi, nobody know, but this is what I strongly believe as no BB will know the issue of warrant before the market and start the action for forcing down. The first day of force down is still within their limits, which is less then 3% of the total share. The first day is the most easy but they need alot of share to short to generate the fear, but subsequent day will be much easy as more fear is generate, until the die hard fans remain, then they can push up to whatever point they like. Yesterday they make use of 4,200 lots to generate 24,000lots of sellers, some of this seller may be weak short seller that follow, some may be weak holder for this counter, some maybe technical player. This is why everytime people trying to get in when the recovery news is well know the price is actually two/three times higher compare to the time where sign of recovery start to appear. In the begining of recovery, this is the time where human emotion are most easily affected, the institute buyer will create fear by historical data and previous record, they will continue to reiterate the existing record. so institute player or BB can collect alot from there. When the market is almost firm that recovery is there, the price need to be at least 2~3times higher, in order for them to offload their large bulk that they pick up, this is why normal buyer will normal loss money in the market. As they are buying at the news that is already well know by everyone. Time Price B S X Grand Total 8:58:53 1.01 348 348 9:32:30 1.01 215 322 9:49:39 1.01 203 203 11:21:00 1.005 755 755 11:24:43 1 1143 1143 11:31:11 0.99 400 400 11:41:16 0.99 291 291 11:48:14 0.985 300 300 11:51:37 0.99 1000 1000 14:19:25 0.99 1510 1510 15:19:25 0.985 250 250 15:36:11 0.985 1000 1000 15:36:48 0.985 308 308 15:43:27 1 850 850 15:58:32 0.985 225 225 16:31:09 0.99 487 487 Large Volume Action 4213 4222 Total 18849 9791 850 phil1314      ( Date: 22-Jan-2013 04:20) Posted: This is very true. "as short seller they are more fear then the normal buyer as they are position is big and what they need to do is hit and run, if can't win, die die also must cover, other wise " Long term players with holding power has no fear as buying on weakness is a golden opportunit
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iPunter Supreme	22-Jan-2013 08:00        iPunter About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes, sifu is so right...     After all, there are countless patterns and styles of play in the stock market -             (" ie. shen mo hua yang dou you " )... lol... edwinjup      ( Date: 22-Jan-2013 07:54) Posted: Actually we should accept all people got different view on yzj..so there always a buyer and seller.in.market
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edwinjup Master	22-Jan-2013 07:54        edwinjup About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Actually we should accept all people got different view on yzj..so there always a buyer and seller.in.market
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cheongsl Master	22-Jan-2013 06:27        cheongsl About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	To my believe this should not be the work of ynnek, as he don't seems to have the knowledge of market, maybe just a follower or message in the institute play. But yesterday I observe something that is abnormal in short seller action that is short sell in the afternoon with large volume, after 3pm with 250lots and 308lots which seems like not enough seller for them to cover the large volume that they short sell in the morning. so at 3pm, they seems like still unable to cover the short position, thus have to generate another round of short selling after 3pm, that is quite a desperate action. But anyway I will still be queueing at 0.945 for my next pick to try my luck. But whether this short sell is generate by citi, nobody know, but this is what I strongly believe as no BB will know the issue of warrant before the market and start the action for forcing down. The first day of force down is still within their limits, which is less then 3% of the total share. The first day is the most easy but they need alot of share to short to generate the fear, but subsequent day will be much easy as more fear is generate, until the die hard fans remain, then they can push up to whatever point they like. Yesterday they make use of 4,200 lots to generate 24,000lots of sellers, some of this seller may be weak short seller that follow, some may be weak holder for this counter, some maybe technical player. This is why everytime people trying to get in when the recovery news is well know the price is actually two/three times higher compare to the time where sign of recovery start to appear. In the begining of recovery, this is the time where human emotion are most easily affected, the institute buyer will create fear by historical data and previous record, they will continue to reiterate the existing record. so institute player or BB can collect alot from there. When the market is almost firm that recovery is there, the price need to be at least 2~3times higher, in order for them to offload their large bulk that they pick up, this is why normal buyer will normal loss money in the market. As they are buying at the news that is already well know by everyone. Time Price B S X Grand Total 8:58:53 1.01 348 348 9:32:30 1.01 215 322 9:49:39 1.01 203 203 11:21:00 1.005 755 755 11:24:43 1 1143 1143 11:31:11 0.99 400 400 11:41:16 0.99 291 291 11:48:14 0.985 300 300 11:51:37 0.99 1000 1000 14:19:25 0.99 1510 1510 15:19:25 0.985 250 250 15:36:11 0.985 1000 1000 15:36:48 0.985 308 308 15:43:27 1 850 850 15:58:32 0.985 225 225 16:31:09 0.99 487 487 Large Volume Action 4213 4222 Total 18849 9791 850 phil1314      ( Date: 22-Jan-2013 04:20) Posted: This is very true. "as short seller they are more fear then the normal buyer as they are position is big and what they need to do is hit and run, if can't win, die die also must cover, other wise " Long term players with holding power has no fear as buying on weakness is a golden opportunity cheongsl      ( Date: 21-Jan-2013 23:51) Posted: Seems like you still have not do your homework on BDI  and how it is being affected by China economy and development. Or just pretend that you have no idea about this and beside that the non-linear effect of BDI you also seems to ignored based on previous posting. It can show either you are ignorant or pretent to be ignorant with the motive to just create fear. But just remember one thing that short seller say, they will let it position run, that is not true, as short seller they are more fear then the normal buyer as they are position is big and what they need to do is hit and run, if can't win, die die also must cover, other wise backside will be seriously burn
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iPunter Supreme	22-Jan-2013 05:35        iPunter About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	Whether short or long, both have equal opportunity to make money... lol...       When the time is ripe, it's time to invest in the downtrend (ie. sell and hold long-term) ...               but first, the market must go very high... If not, where got enough meat or juice?.. .
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phil1314 Senior	22-Jan-2013 04:20        phil1314 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This is very true. "as short seller they are more fear then the normal buyer as they are position is big and what they need to do is hit and run, if can't win, die die also must cover, other wise " Long term players with holding power has no fear as buying on weakness is a golden opportunity cheongsl      ( Date: 21-Jan-2013 23:51) Posted: Seems like you still have not do your homework on BDI  and how it is being affected by China economy and development. Or just pretend that you have no idea about this and beside that the non-linear effect of BDI you also seems to ignored based on previous posting. It can show either you are ignorant or pretent to be ignorant with the motive to just create fear. But just remember one thing that short seller say, they will let it position run, that is not true, as short seller they are more fear then the normal buyer as they are position is big and what they need to do is hit and run, if can't win, die die also must cover, other wise backside will be seriously burn. ynnek1267      ( Date: 21-Jan-2013 22:53) Posted: Again, want to make me laugh. 2007 to 2008 BDI is 10000+!!! Now is 800 plus, not even 10% wahaha!!! Recovery???? Still sleeping ah. Wahaha!!! Ship owners lose money till no pants, where got money to buy new vessels. Wahahaha!!! Anyway we shortist like frogs. Wahahaha!!!!
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ynnek1267 Master	22-Jan-2013 02:46        ynnek1267 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Wahahaha!!! The fact is YZJ break 1 dollar. More to come. Wahahaha!!!!! cheongsl      ( Date: 21-Jan-2013 23:51) Posted: Seems like you still have not do your homework on BDI  and how it is being affected by China economy and development. Or just pretend that you have no idea about this and beside that the non-linear effect of BDI you also seems to ignored based on previous posting. It can show either you are ignorant or pretent to be ignorant with the motive to just create fear. But just remember one thing that short seller say, they will let it position run, that is not true, as short seller they are more fear then the normal buyer as they are position is big and what they need to do is hit and run, if can't win, die die also must cover, other wise backside will be seriously burn. ynnek1267      ( Date: 21-Jan-2013 22:53) Posted: Again, want to make me laugh. 2007 to 2008 BDI is 10000+!!! Now is 800 plus, not even 10% wahaha!!! Recovery???? Still sleeping ah. Wahaha!!! Ship owners lose money till no pants, where got money to buy new vessels. Wahahaha!!! Anyway we shortist like frogs. Wahahaha!!!!
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halleluyah Elite	22-Jan-2013 01:16        halleluyah About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	How many thousand lots u can effort to short per day in to bring YZJ down? ynnek1267      ( Date: 21-Jan-2013 23:25) Posted: Welcome to buy more tomorrow. tomorrow buyer will become next month seller. Wahahaha!!!! We shortist will hold rally when STI is up and short yzj up side down when STI is down Wahahaha!!@@
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GorgeousOng Elite	22-Jan-2013 00:26        GorgeousOng About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Hehehaha...enjoy life n live to the fullest..."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You only short YZJ?or other counters as well? ynnek1267      ( Date: 21-Jan-2013 23:25) Posted: Welcome to buy more tomorrow. tomorrow buyer will become next month seller. Wahahaha!!!! We shortist will hold rally when STI is up and short yzj up side down when STI is down Wahahaha!!@@
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Hulumas Supreme	22-Jan-2013 00:10        Hulumas About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "INVEST but not TRADE please!"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	So simple meeeeeeeeeh? ynnek1267      ( Date: 21-Jan-2013 23:25) Posted: Welcome to buy more tomorrow. tomorrow buyer will become next month seller. Wahahaha!!!! We shortist will hold rally when STI is up and short yzj up side down when STI is down Wahahaha!!@@
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cheongsl Master	21-Jan-2013 23:51        cheongsl About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Seems like you still have not do your homework on BDI  and how it is being affected by China economy and development. Or just pretend that you have no idea about this and beside that the non-linear effect of BDI you also seems to ignored based on previous posting. It can show either you are ignorant or pretent to be ignorant with the motive to just create fear. But just remember one thing that short seller say, they will let it position run, that is not true, as short seller they are more fear then the normal buyer as they are position is big and what they need to do is hit and run, if can't win, die die also must cover, other wise backside will be seriously burn. ynnek1267      ( Date: 21-Jan-2013 22:53) Posted: Again, want to make me laugh. 2007 to 2008 BDI is 10000+!!! Now is 800 plus, not even 10% wahaha!!! Recovery???? Still sleeping ah. Wahaha!!! Ship owners lose money till no pants, where got money to buy new vessels. Wahahaha!!! Anyway we shortist like frogs. Wahahaha!!!!! cheongsl      ( Date: 21-Jan-2013 22:43) Posted: The Baltic Dry Index, a measure of costs to transport minerals and grains on ships, jumped the most since November this week as a shortage of Capesize vessels drove charter costs higher. The gauge rose 2.1 percent to 837 today, the 12th climb in a row, figures from the London-based Baltic Exchange showed. That rounded out a 10 percent weekly gain, the biggest since the span ended Nov. 16. Daily average returns for Capesizes, the largest iron-ore carriers, surged 45 percent this week, the most since September.
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ynnek1267 Master	21-Jan-2013 23:25        ynnek1267 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Welcome to buy more tomorrow. tomorrow buyer will become next month seller. Wahahaha!!!! We shortist will hold rally when STI is up and short yzj up side down when STI is down Wahahaha!!@@
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Hulumas Supreme	21-Jan-2013 23:17        Hulumas About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "INVEST but not TRADE please!"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Me too and 'll queue buying again tomorrow. cheongsl      ( Date: 21-Jan-2013 18:30) Posted: Thanks, I have collect my at 0.985. ynnek1267      ( Date: 21-Jan-2013 16:34) Posted: told you already, tomorrow to queue at 97cents. We are very satisfied today outcome. Wahahaha!!!
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cheongsl Master	21-Jan-2013 23:16        cheongsl About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Invester is buying on reversal, trend, but short seller will try to short and continue to create fear,  that is why you always used the historical data  to try to create fear, but never look ahead when the sky and weather have change. When everyone know it  is the recovery of the industries, the price will be trading at double  or even three times the price of current. That would not be attactive to me anymore, just like the Reits that I have off-load all  last year september.  What short seller fear most is not able to get the seller to let him/her cover the short. otherwise they need to pay what ever higher price to cover, not mention $3, $6 or even $10, short seller still need to cover when time is up. So you can continue to short at your own risk, but I will pick up at the destinated pickup points. As  I believe the Yang Zi Jiang might be able to reach $10~$11(current keppel level)  if the shipbuilding industries really recover and their first rig project really success. I will off load by 1/3 pick up at 1.40++, as there are huge volume resistance at this level, if it fall back to 1. Then I will pick back. The other 2/3 will be decide when the days come nearer, current target is still picking up.   ynnek1267      ( Date: 21-Jan-2013 22:50) Posted: Ok loh. You want to be frog. Wahaha!!! Do you intepret news properly or not? One and half year price is down down down without up, news tell you this month up as compared to last month but last month index has been down for 14 months continually. 1 and half year just the time to build 1 vessel. So it tells you the next coming few quarters will be disaster to shipbuilding industry. Recovery has to wait till 2014. Wahahaha!!!! cheongsl      ( Date: 21-Jan-2013 21:59) Posted: Let's see what in China news: 中 国 新 船 价 格 指 数 发 布 1年 半 来 首 度 反 弹 this should be good news, hopefully next month can continue to move up.
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