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Stockcham
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21-Jul-2013 14:39
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Bro Cskshares, dont' say that. We help each other. I always believe if a person is willing to learn and spend more thime to analyse, he will be a better player the next time. Discipline is also one aspect that everyone have to master. I haven't master yet but have improve over the years. I still like to anyhow chiong at times! This one don't learn! Huat ah!
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Stockcham
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21-Jul-2013 14:32
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Bro JarolLo, I'm using POEMS from Philip. I don't have to pay cash. All I need is to use 1250 points to exchange for this Market Depth. Every month my trade will accumulate 5k - 10k points. So enough for me to subscribe for free every month.  If pay cash, it cost $32.10 per month. Bro, you may want to read my posting below. Market Depth is not to use to determine the support and resistance. We use chart to do that. Good luck and huat ah!
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JarolLo
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21-Jul-2013 13:34
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Bro Stockcham, May I know which service provider you use for access the Market Depth? How much you paid for it? I like to do the same as well. Seems that this is a very useful tool to ascertain the support and resistance. Thank you.  
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cskshares
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21-Jul-2013 11:51
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Bro Novice, thanks for the info. Will check with iOCBC tomorrow for the possibilities. Just check at www.shareinvestor.com, Shareinvestor Station membership will have access to market depth info. I already signed up as trial, not sure able to see the market depth with the trial membership or not. I am just like you, eager to start making money. But I think we better learn to take it easy. Just like what Bro Librajet and others shared, the market is always there, there are always chances to make money in the future, don't have to rush into it if we are still not quite sure. For me, I will make sure I can view the market depth first, before I move into another counter again, or unless if I get signal from Bros Stockcham, Joseeng, Librajet and some others to buy. Hope to HUAT together in the future.
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novice_trader
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21-Jul-2013 10:59
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Just to add... iOCBC market depth is diff from POEMS market depth... POEMS is BUY Price, BUY Vol, SELL Price and SELL Vol. iOCBC is a bit different, I don't know how to explain the diff but think its rather complicated and more steps involve that why I don't use iOCBC.... Sorry I don't know how to paste pic here, maybe Bro Dividend Warrior can help paste some pics??? Hehehe | ||||
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novice_trader
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21-Jul-2013 10:55
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I'm using Market Depth from POEMS, can pay cash as well as using the points to pay off like 1200 points for 1 month subscription... iOCBC I believe if u make sufficient trades per month, they will give it free I guess? I have iOCBC but rarely used. Hope I'm contributing.... Hahaha.... | ||||
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novice_trader
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21-Jul-2013 10:42
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Bro Stockcham, thanks million for the 3am reply and advice bro!!! Thanks, u haven't sleep? Well I sleep at 4am+ bcoz couldn't sleep.... Will need to translate some hokkien words first to English to understand...hahaha.... Thanks a lot. Think i need to be quick to take profits other than sitting waiting for durain to drop, kana my head instead. Ok ok hope my next post is a winning post!!! Don't want to sound like a cry baby in SJ!!! Huat Ah!
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louis_leecs
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21-Jul-2013 09:51
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Bro stochcham
Your trading tacnics quite chun and confirm from your experience,so just keep it up to tell us the signal of buy and sell ,is q useful and tell us the big q at what price when market depth is showing,so if you want to help norvice_trader , I think you can highlight support and resistance even market depth big q buy and big q sell , hope you can consider this, thank you bro ,let all the new and stupid bro here to learn and grew bigger and huat ah at Akan datang future |
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cskshares
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21-Jul-2013 09:04
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Bro, thank you for the info.
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Falcon
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21-Jul-2013 07:45
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Bro Stockcham, I appreciate your sharing & value the time You take to explain. Even if we dont get to cheong big big, at least we learn not to enter n exit at the wrong time and lose precious $$$. Wish your wealth multiplies! for your kindness & generousity. Cheers ☆ ★ ☆ | ||||
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halleluyah
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21-Jul-2013 07:40
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Fr Cimb, brokerage muat b 70k n abv if nt subscription fees is only $30/mth.
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cskshares
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21-Jul-2013 03:12
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Bro, please accept my salute for spending the time to explain. I normally don't sleep so late even during weekend.  But my mind is so busy, that I just couldn't sleep. Already off my computer and internet, went for a bath.  Came out, hand itchy, on the pc and internet again, just to check if there is any more post. So happy to see your reply. I am with iOCBC, will ask them if I can get to view the market depth for free. Like some bros here. I have lost quite a bit, in fact holding quite many counters based on my wrong understanding before. Thought earlier on, this is not for me. The more I buy, the more I have to babysit. Was thinking of walking away from this entirely. Now I see light ahead. Understanding that many times I buy when people start to sell, and then hope for u-turn, and pray very hard. Buying without knowing the resistance, and don't know when to cut loss. Really really learning a lot from many many experts here during this 1 whole week. Thanks to all of you very very much. Don't worry. I am not no unrealistic thinking that I am going to make money from now on. No, but I think chances of making money will be higher. Even if I still lose, it won't be like the past, after losing, still don't know why I lose. I know very well I still have a lot a lot to learn, hope you all can continue to share and guide. Let's HUAT together.
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Stockcham
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21-Jul-2013 03:03
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Bro novice, you really made my head spin. After so many bros told you your problem and after so many of my write-up, you still don't know where went wrong. If you are not going to take our words seriously, no matter how many times we tell you also no use.  You are still asking what counters to buy. Kek Sim ah! As I mentioend earlier, it is not what good counter to buy, it is how you buy and how you sell. You see, you are still holding on to Vard. From profit to lose commission,  from lose commission to lose pips. I have said before this Vard when touch 079 will rebound  and then must sell. I said in my last post  that if Vard go back to 0.79 again cannot buy liao which mean it may break. I personally believe it will break since  the company still haven't  solves its problem. It is only a matter of time.  It may be Monday or T+5 I won't know.  My guess that  it will  trade between 0.79 - 0.81 or break 0.79 on Monday.  For Blumont, from what I know profit warning normally no good but it depends on whether BBs still have how much holdings. This is a fully controlled counters by BBs. If they hold a lot, I don't think it will let it fall too much. That's just my guess. Hey bro, wa mm si sinn leh, si mi poon zhai...Lol. There is an old Hokkien saying....sway ki hoot jit pao. This may take your bad luck away! Lol! Don't think too much bro! Enjoy your precious time with your family this Sunday! Good night. Huat ah!
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Stockcham
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21-Jul-2013 02:31
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Kum sia  Bro medivh! Huat ah!
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Stockcham
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21-Jul-2013 02:29
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Bro, there are a few ways to see support and resistance. I'm not going into the complicated one because I have return it back  to the teacher liao.  Those are for professional to use. We just need the simpler historical data for reference which I feel is sufficient. To make it simple, support price is the  previous low that it has touch before whereas the resistance is the previous high.  Previous can mean many years. You may need to see  the historical price for the past years which sometimes can go back to 10-15 years ago. Market Depth  is actually the buy sell queue volumn behind the normal buy sell queue volumn which we can see on the screen. I don't know what other ways to get it.  My broking firm have this rewards  system where every $1 commision we pay them, they will give us 1 point. We can use these points to exchange for megazine, attend trading courses or apply other services like Market Depth, Chartwhiz etc. For me, I use some of my points to " pay" for Market Depth. Market Depth is new to me. I just use it not long and am still trying to figure out what  signal  it gives. I realised that the big sell queue at Market Depth doesn't necessary means the price will move up. But I find the big sell queue  quite reliable when a counter chiong up. It actually can give you a guide how much it can go. Take for example Hiap Tong. When the price is at 35-355, I saw the last big queue is at 0.37. It closed at this price on that day. Another example is Unionmet. The counter chiong up a few pips the previous day to close at 0.055. The next morning, I only see big sell queue at 0.056. It matched at 0.055, run to 0.056 and drop. Last example is Innopac which I find it very interesting. In the recent run up when the price  moves to 128-129, i already see big queue at 140 but 150 still don't have big queue. I predict it will go up to 140. True it went up to this price. When the price starts to move to 134-135(if I remember correctly, big queue at 150 appear. Indeed, it did moves to 150 and so on.  So it did give some signal, but  will not be always zhun. Just like sometimes Man U give 1/2 ball to Sunderland win but sometimes lose, right?. If you don t see big queue at buy sell in Market Depth, maybe BBs went holiday with Bro Librajet. Lol! As I say, I'm  still trying to figure out  what other signal it gives.   Any bros have anything to add?. Good night and Huat ah!
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novice_trader
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21-Jul-2013 01:39
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Bro Stockcham, sorry to ask a stupid question... Can u recommend me a strategy? I'm lost somehow... What stock shall I pick?
Halcyon mati, Vard kana pirate raid, cosmosteel wack left right. Hahaha... Really unsure bro. Spend whole Friday night and sat night thinking what's my next move... Conclusion? Still blank mind... Haha.... Almost anything I buy died except Roxy and Half Ramba burger... Lucky escape for Ramba, see now going down.... My LILO (Last In Last Out) must change soon to FIFO, otherwise I'm screwed.... Still thinking.... Happy dreaming bros! Take care!
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novice_trader
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21-Jul-2013 01:29
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Vard has closed at 0.79 which is the ipo price, should it bounce up again??? Hope so... I'm vested at 0.815. Greed control my brain last week... | ||||
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novice_trader
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21-Jul-2013 01:26
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Bro Stockcham, just read that blumont has issue a profit warning.... So Monday should mati???
http://www.sgx.com/wps/portal/sgxweb/home/company_disclosure/company_announcements |
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medivh
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21-Jul-2013 00:35
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kudos to bro stalkcham for his advice.. good advice these days are hard to come .(" ,) |
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cskshares
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21-Jul-2013 00:06
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Bro, I thought this forum might be quiet today, I was wrong.  Saw so many posts. Went back all the way to the last post I read yesterday.  Learn a lot from your sharing. I guess I know when to come back to read and learn more next time, since now is the time you don't have to concentrate on the matching and selling. Will google for resistance and support. If cannot find helpful information, may need your help to provide whichever link which has good information. About resistance, if not mistaken, you refer to the market depth, and seems to me, Bro Joseeng refers to the chart, not sure if he refers to market depth too. Again, may be you can personally confirm how anybody can view the market depth for any counter. Must pay for it? Previous answer seems to imply that if we join as a member in shareinvestor.com, you will be able to see it. Is it that case? Thanks a lot!
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