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Creative @ $6.60!
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07-Aug-2009 10:07
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where is the power of this counter? climb fast begin of this week and now slow down liao...in fact heading back south.. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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04-Aug-2009 12:14
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$60??? another 10 baggers like OSIM cheers..... | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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jeremyow
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04-Aug-2009 11:32
Yells: "Passionate business investor" |
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Yes, hope so. Such companies can be very profitable if they can compete well based on their newer and better products. If failing so, then losses are common since their costs to maintain business is already huge. So, Creative's shares can both potentially go back to it's supernormal high at $60 or the company can also potentially be reduced to the slumps. So far, the only technology company in the world that is still consistently doing well is Microsoft. This unique technology company can do so because it has already managed to monopolise the international markets with their line of products such as operating softwares (XP, Windows Vista), Microsoft Office, Windows Internet Explorer etc. Monopoly to such strong extent ensures consistent profitability since users worldwide have to use their products in homes, schools, government agencies and businesses. The only lesser competition for Microsoft is Apple Computers with their Macintosh operating software. However, I think Microsoft will still continue to be profitable for a long time into the future as long as they do not "cock up" their quality of the future line of products rolled out. This is an expectional case of a technology company that can manage ot maintain it's profitability since it has gained strong consumer monopoly for it's technology products and this monopoly is not easily overthrown because of their already established strong branding (e.g. computer users worldwide will have heard of Microsoft even if some may not be using their products). |
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04-Aug-2009 11:17
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I hope it will go all the way up to $60!Just like when it launched the mp3 products a few years ago. |
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jeremyow
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04-Aug-2009 11:12
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Technology companies generally may not provide consistent growth in earnings. Their profitability depends very heavily on the sales and marketability of their products. It is very competitive in this industry with many players rolling out new products to compete in the market. Companies like these thrive on research and development to innovate and come out with better and newer products frequently to compete with their competition. They also need to spend on advertising, marketing and educating users on their new products when released. So, companies like these have to spend huge costs in R&D and marketing. Not to forget they have to price their new products competitively to their competition since their competition may come up with similar new products to rival for market share of customers. So, huge costs that needs to be spent constantly to maintain the business, no matter whether there is sales or not. If the sales of their products is not doing well or if there is no more newer products rolled out to compete with competition, the company may go out of business soon. However, if there is newer products that is better than the competition, it can be very profitable for the company since customers will go for the technology products that are better and newer. In conclusion, inherent recurring huge costs of operations coupled with fluctuating earnings depending on innovation and competition of products sales makes such companies very difficult to ensure a constant stream of earnings. It is therefore not surprising that Creative's shares once soared to sky (on sky high optimisim for their high earnings few years back) and now has already dropped significantly (since the business is making losses now).
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04-Aug-2009 10:47
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Wow... still cheonging ... 7.24 now... up 1.34 ! | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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04-Aug-2009 10:14
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Wow... still cheonging ... 7.24 now... up 1.34 ! | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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04-Aug-2009 09:09
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How come kep flying????????? There something brewing?????? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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04-Aug-2009 07:02
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Creative SOARED 31% in NY last night... | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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sterny
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07-Aug-2008 13:13
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Sad company. Respect the founder and owner for his intelligence. But unfortunately he is on the "wrong side of the fence", if you know what i mean. Good guys die young. Cannot make it already. |
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knightrider
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07-Aug-2008 10:34
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That is not truth ! In past years, market rumours that Samsung is always eyeing this brand, just that the founder did not want to let go ! This will definetly not become a penny stock ! It took Mr. Sim more than 20 years to build this brand. I still have faith in this counter just not the right time to get in yet. Read the reports from BT, 7 Aug 2008 ! Creative posts US$31.7m Q4 net loss
By ONG BOON KIAT (SINGAPORE) An US$11.7 million restructuring charge has dragged Creative Technology to its biggest loss in nine quarters, as revenue fell 15.6 per cent from a year earlier. The homegrown tech giant posted a net loss of US$31.7 million for the fourth quarter ended June 30, compared with a loss of US$19.3 million for Q4 last year. On a per share basis, the net loss came to 40 US cents, compared with a net loss of 23 US cents previously. For the full year, the net loss totalled US$19.7 million. This compares with a net income of US$28.2 million last year - but that result was helped by US$100 million paid by Apple for its use of Creative's ZEN patent in its products. For the latest Q4, Creative's sales slumped 15.6 per cent to US$139.5 million, from US$165.2 million a year earlier. Full-year revenue came to US$736.8 million, 19.5 per cent less than US$914.9 million previously. Looking ahead, Creative said yesterday that operating expenses have been 'significantly reduced' through restructuring efforts in Q4. The company is aiming for a 10-15 per cent reduction in operating expenses in the current Q1 compared with the preceding Q4's US$61 million, said Creative Labs president and chief operating officer Craig McHugh.
Q1 revenue is expected to be between US$130 and US$140 million, he said. Revenue for Q1 last year came to US$184.6 million. Mr McHugh said adverse 'macro-economic conditions' will continue through the company's coming Q2. Due to this, and the possibility that Creative may be 'de-emphasising' some of its 'underperforming businesses', revenue this quarter is expected to be lower than that last year, Mr McHugh said. In Q4, Creative sold US$69.8 million of personal digital entertainment products, equivalent to 50 per cent of its total Q4 revenue. In the year-ago period, revenue from this category was US$94.2 million, or 57 per cent of total sales. Europe accounted for 40 per cent of overall Q4 revenue. Then came the Americas, with 34 per cent. Asia and the rest of the world made up the remaining 26 per cent of sales. Creative completed the sale and leaseback of its headquarters building in Jurong for $246.8 million in Q4. It has leased back the building for five years, with an option for additional lease periods of three and two years. The sale gave Creative a gain of US$147.9 million. This amount will be treated as a deferred gain, to be amortised and recognised in the company's income statements over the lease term of five years. Creative also made a US$100 million loan repayment after the close of Q4, and this will be reflected in its balance sheet for the current Q1. Creative's share price closed unchanged at $5.80 yesterday. |
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jackjames
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07-Aug-2008 10:24
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definitely, it doesn't worth 5 dollars.. it can be penny stock.. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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knightrider
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07-Aug-2008 09:55
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Can be even lower ! CIMB 7 Aug 2008 :- Creative Technology (S$5.80) - 4QFY08 results - Core business still suffering Core earnings within. Excluding the one-off charges and chairman’s gift of shares to employees (which collectively amounted to US$10.5m), US$21.3m losses for its underlying businesses in 4QFY08 were fairly close to our estimate of US$20.9m. Sales slipped 16% yoy to US$140m in 4QFY08, slightly ahead of our forecast of US$133m. All product segments posted yoy decline with the exception of speaker/headphone segment. The poor PDE sales (down 26% yoy) again pale in [ 4 ] CIMB-GK Research Pte Ltd 7 August 2008 comparison with iPod sales. Apple earlier reported 12% and 7% yoy shipments and revenue growth respectively, for iPod products in the June quarter. EBITDA margin remained in the negative territory in 4QFY08, reaffirming our negative view on its underlying businesses. Gross margin was relatively flat yoy at 20.2% after five consecutive quarters of yoy improvement. Although Creative continued to make headway in lowering opex, the company will not be able to generate positive return based on current level of sales and gross margin. Balance sheet is its only bright spot in this set of results. Creative ended the year with US$295m net cash (excluding the US$37.2m investments), up from US$193m as at end-March, and represents about 81% of its current market cap. This was achieved largely via the disposal of its buildings in Singapore. During the quarter, it bought back 2.5m shares at an average price of US$4.79. Core businesses still struggling. Outlook for Creative remains gloomy as most of the product segments it operates in are still facing stiff competition. Business conditions are worsened by the current weak macroeconomic environment. We expect Creative to incur losses again in the coming quarter, though losses should narrow on the back of lower opex. Earnings cut; maintain Underperform. We now expect Creative to post losses for FY09 (vs. our earlier expectations of US$23.6m profit), and have also cut our FY10 profit forecast by 40% after adjusting for our lower sales, gross margin, and opex assumptions. We have also introduced FY11 forecast. Our target price, still based on 0.85x P/BV is reduced from S$5.31 to S$4.55. Maintain Underperform. |
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tanglinboy
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26-Jul-2008 22:02
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Wow. Is this an all time low? Anyone still holding onto this counter? |
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10-Jun-2008 21:57
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6.7! market tumble but this stock went up! something brewing! | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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knightrider
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30-Apr-2008 16:54
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Now still going strong ! Today is already S$6.5 liao ! I think it is still cheap to invest. This company is now cash rich after they sold their building. Prepared to hold long term, it is still worth holding this counter. Good Luck. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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tanglinboy
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23-Apr-2008 16:43
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Wah! Last 2 days cheong more than 30 cents | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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tanglinboy
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20-Apr-2008 22:06
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Got this from SJ's blogger's corner CREATIVE ANNOUNCES Q3 FY08 FINANCIAL RESULTS
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17-Apr-2008 20:46
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Check out this counter's Bollinger Band. They are really really tight. Large price change may occur soon. |
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knightrider
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15-Apr-2008 11:27
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How come today have so many X transaction ? Can anyone translate ?
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