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singaporegal Supreme	29-Dec-2006 11:57        singaporegal About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Technical   Mood: Yells: "Female TA nut"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	History is written by the victors. In Iraq's case, the ones who suffer the most are the civilians. Iraq is a modern day Vietnam for the US. The soldiers there fight the very people they are supposed to protect in an unwanted and costly war.
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EastonBay Master	29-Dec-2006 09:41        EastonBay About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	there are others: e.g. Pinochet, also died of old age. Most notably "The Most Stupid president in US history" who waged 2 wars in the middle-east. No cause and effect, no justice yet!
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giantlow Master	28-Dec-2006 12:43        giantlow About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	cause and effect retribution justice just hope his diehard loyalist dun make trouble.
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iPunter Supreme	28-Dec-2006 10:42        iPunter About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	sigh
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iPunter Supreme	28-Dec-2006 10:42        iPunter About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	IMHO, what good does it do to hang the man? when so much is at stake... sign...
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scotty Senior	28-Dec-2006 10:34        scotty About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Isn't it interesting.... there was another tyrant in the Serb-Croat war called Milosevic who was convicted of genocide. I believed he died of old age or something after a long protracted trial. And then, here we have Saddam who is convicted of the same thing and he's going to hang soon.
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Forglory Member	28-Dec-2006 10:29        Forglory About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	time to be careful... just when everyone has been lulled by their senses of a never ending run...
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singaporegal Supreme	28-Dec-2006 08:36        singaporegal About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Technical   Mood: Yells: "Female TA nut"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I just hope there are no repurcussions with this. The global markets are in a bull run now and an incident could wipe out billions off the markets.
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billywows Elite	27-Dec-2006 23:52        billywows About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If you guys have noticed, there isn't any terror attack (touch wood!!!) for a long while. Wonder if they execute Saddam soon (see below's article), will it spark one? Global markets have been rallying effortlessly recently ... Trade with care ya! ----------------- Saddam death sentence may not need OK By CHRISTOPHER TORCHIA, Associated Press Writer 38 minutes ago BAGHDAD, Iraq - An appeals court order upholding Saddam Hussein's death sentence might not require the Iraqi president's approval, a presidential spokesman said Wednesday. If it does not, the former dictator will have no other legal means of avoiding execution. Saddam loyalists threatened retaliation if he is put to death. Violence struck Baghdad again Wednesday, with a car bomb explosion killing eight civilians and wounding 10 near an Iraqi army checkpoint, police said. Two Latvian soldiers were also killed and three were wounded when a roadside bomb exploded under their Humvee, the Latvian Defense Ministry said. Latvia has about 130 troops serving with a Polish contingent in Diwaniyah, 80 miles south of Baghdad. In its ruling Tuesday, the appeals court said Saddam must be hanged within 30 days for ordering the killings of scores of Shiite Muslims in the city of Dujail in 1982. An Iraqi tribunal convicted Saddam on Nov. 5 after a nine-month trial. Iraqi officials had said such a decision must be ratified by President Jalal Talabani and Iraq's two vice presidents. But a presidential spokesman said that was not necessarily the case. "Some people believe there is no need for his approval," said Hiwa Osman, Talabani's media adviser. "We still have to hear from the court as to how the procedure can be carried out." Lawyers were debating whether an Iraqi High Tribunal provision mandating the imposition of the death penalty could take precedence over a law in the constitution that requires the president to approve death sentences. The appeals court also affirmed on Tuesday death sentences for two of Saddam's co-defendants, including his half brother. It ruled that life imprisonment for a third was too lenient and demanded he too be sentenced to death. Some Iraqis said Saddam should be hanged immediately, but others feared Iraq's bloodletting could escalate if the former dictator is executed at a time when sectarian attacks are already on the rise. "Executing him now is dangerous. The situation is very bad. Things need to be calmer," said Saadia Mohamed Majed, a 60-year-old Shiite in Baghdad who wants the penalty to be postponed for at least three years. Shiites endured persecution under Saddam and his fellow Sunni Arab leaders, and many are eager to remove a symbol of the old regime. The court's decision came on a particularly bloody day in Baghdad, when at least 54 Iraqis died in bombings and police discovered 49 apparent victims of sectarian reprisal killings. Many Baghdad neighborhoods were jittery on Wednesday amid fears that Sunni Arab insurgents would target Shiite neighborhoods in revenge attacks. There was a heavy police presence in the downtown area of Karrada, and parents picked up their children from a school after reports of a car bomb in the area. Some Saddam loyalists threatened to retaliate if the ousted Iraqi leader is executed, warning in an Internet posting that they would target U.S. interests anywhere. The statement appeared on a Web site known to represent Saddam's Baath Party, which was disbanded after U.S.-led forces overthrew Saddam in 2003. The site is believed to be run from Yemen, where a number of exiled members of the party are based. "The Baath and the resistance are determined to retaliate, with all means and everywhere, to harm America and its interests if it commits this crime," the statement said, referring to Baath fighters as "the resistance." Saddam's defense lawyers, who are based in Amman, Jordan, urged Arab governments and the United Nations to intervene to stop the execution. "Otherwise, all may be participating in what is going on, either actually or due to their silence in face of the crimes, which are being committed in Iraq in the name of democracy," the lawyers said in an e-mail statement to The Associated Press. The statement signed by "the Defense Committee for President Saddam Hussein" said the court's rejection of Saddam's appeal was part of the "continued shedding of pure Iraqi blood by the current regime in Iraq, which (is) directly connected with the American occupation." An expert on war crimes speculated the sentence might be carried out very quickly. "I won't be surprised if there's just an announcement in several days saying the sentence has been carried out. The ruling says the sentence has to be carried out within 30 days, but it doesn't say you need to wait," said Michael Scharf, a professor at Case Western Reserve University School of Law. The execution should be "properly witnessed and documented with a lot of photos because you don't want rumors popping up years later that he's only been exiled or something," he said. "But I don't think it's in anybody's interest to make a public showing of his hanging, that could be the trigger for a lot of violence." Human Rights Watch, an international rights group that opposes the execution, said the law creating the Iraqi High Tribunal mandates that death sentences can never be commuted. However, international law says that when a death sentence is given, there must be an opportunity for it to be commuted, the group said. "There's some real confusion as to who has the authority to ratify the death sentence," said Richard Dicker, director of the group's International Justice Program. The legal maneuvering in Baghdad was of little concern in the northern Kurdish city of Irbil, where people who suffered under Saddam's brutal rule celebrated the decision upholding his death sentence. Saddam is currently in the midst of another trial, charged with genocide and other crimes during a 1987-88 military crackdown on Kurds in northern Iraq. An estimated 180,000 Kurds died during the operation. That trial was adjourned until Jan. 8, but experts have said the trial of Saddam's co-defendants is likely to continue even if he is executed. Mohammed Salim, a Kurd who said his father was killed by Saddam loyalists, praised the Saddam ruling "because Saddam followers have carried out terrorist acts, and they are behind the continuous violence in Baghdad and other parts of Iraq." Saddam is being held at Camp Cropper, an American military prison close to Baghdad's airport. U.S. military officials did not say whether the former dictator will now be turned over to the Iraqis in anticipation of his execution. Saddam was captured while hiding in a hole in the ground near his home village north of Baghdad in December 2003, eight months after he fled the capital ahead of advancing American troops. --------------
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