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jackjames
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11-Feb-2007 00:48
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I think many people notice Easycall and raffles education, will Informatics on the fly next? I just read their profile, surprisingly, their result was out on last Friday evening.. Their quarter operating revenue (-17%), interestingly, they do not have profit before taxation, but loss before taxation, because they are on the loss side for 2 years ... this quarter, their loss after tax (-92%) , which is a plus point for them, but still " a loss".. it seems like, if the trend continues in this way, it can turn out to be .... profit after tax.. and this stock can get ready to fly.. price now is 0.065, not sure this result is good or bad.. But the lowest price is 0.04. I will start to put this counter in my watch list. Although it's a penny stock, but if it drops to 0.04-0.05, I will be interested. |
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iPunter
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30-Dec-2006 14:09
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Sorry for 'contaminating' this thread with Starhub matters... |
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iPunter
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30-Dec-2006 14:06
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Perhaps Starhub will trade in a sideways wedge for eight weeks from here rather than rising or falling drastically. But there again, with EPL in the pipeline, it may roar it's way skyward. |
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brandonharrist
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30-Dec-2006 14:04
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Hi Pikachu, don't think they have evolved but they have devolved, if you know what I mean. I have friends who worked there, joing and leaving in a matter of 3 weeks. There have a good business model via franchising but the execution in quality management is lacking. At the end of the day, if you are in the education business, it's still about quality in delivering quality education. The fact that Raffles Education did so well is the quality of their courses and having students who ultimately made good who become living advertising billboards for the company. One more time, please change the name before you do anything else (and if it happens one day, remember you hear it first here!) |
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pikachu
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30-Dec-2006 13:55
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I remember taking some computer classes at informatics long time ago. Is their core biz still computer lessons? Have they evolved?? |
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iPunter
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30-Dec-2006 13:54
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Brandonharrist, Hey, this is real good guidance I'm hearing, man... What more could I ask for? Thanks... :) |
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brandonharrist
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30-Dec-2006 13:51
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My two cents worth again, 1) Clearly the trend is up 2) The uptrend trend is not really supported by heavy volume 3) No clear "immediate" resistance level My take: Ride the trend, but have in place a trailing stop-loss (moving up in tandem with price). Now the No.1 priority is to manage risk and protect profit, but ride it as much as you can. Be mindful and ready to trigger stop-loss when trend reverse), with no clear support level only at around $2.30, the fall can be painful. |
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iPunter
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30-Dec-2006 13:36
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Brandonharrist, What do you reckon's the next immediate resistance for Starhub, coz I'm still riding it out... ? |
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iPunter
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30-Dec-2006 13:29
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Excellent, brandonharrist.... Now I can see we have yet another valuable and knowledgeable 'star' member here whom we can turn to for wise guidance. Stay around, buddy... :) |
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brandonharrist
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30-Dec-2006 13:22
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I used FA to look at which stocks I trade and use TA to determine entry (& exit points). After coming across several terms describing a variety of trading styles, I think "Trend Follower" is fits the most. I don't buy/sell ahead of trends or try to anticipate trends (no one can consistently), I buy/sell ONLY when a trend is established (so I may not always buy at the lowest or sell at the highest, and then again no one can consistently). A stock having good fundamentals is not good enough reason for me to get involved. You make money only when there is momentum in price, and momentum ONLY comes with VOLUME. The overall market has to act on the fundamental information so readily available nowadays, and sometimes it does not. At least with price momentum and volume I know the information is acted upon by the masses. And at most times TA can reflect fundamental info about a stock e.g. potential M&A, profit warning etc. ahead of its public announcement. So in short I'm more technical rather than fundamental. Now for Informatics: At yesterday's close it exhibits the dreaded gravestone doji. It means price closes at the day's low, not a good sign! It is a counter probably most suited for scalpers. At the moment, no clear trend or pattern can be established, and as a trend follower it's hands off! The technicals also reflect the current state (for FA) the company is in now, it's still pretty much at very early turnaround stage which involves cost restructuring and financial engineering and later remodelling of its business model (change the brand name for god's sake!), whether it can eventually find its footing or not, it's early days! |
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iPunter
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30-Dec-2006 13:02
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Hello brandonharrist... how are you? Reading your brief concern about Informatics' fundamentals, can I assume you are more inclined towards fundamental analysis of companies? What's your views on TA then? |
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brandonharrist
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30-Dec-2006 12:39
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If someone should ask me for my view on how to turn this business around, I would say "do something fundamental like changing its brand name and coming up with a new brand strategy" There is too much negative brand equity in the Informatics brand name. Wht throw good money after bad when the fundamentals aren't fixed! |
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crazy_money
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30-Dec-2006 12:28
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this is another penny raffles can consider to buy using petty cash to compliment its market position.... |
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singaporegal
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29-Dec-2006 21:42
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TA charts dun look very good. |
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ROI25per
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29-Dec-2006 19:22
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Published December 29, 2006 Informatics: Not quite out of the woods yet By TEH HOOI LING ARE we finally seeing a glimmer of light in the long, dark tunnel that Informatics Education has found itself in since 2004? After all, it has been able to reduce its losses in recent quarters. In the three months to June 30, 2006, it was in the red by $2.8 million. This compared with $3.9 million a year ago. And for latest three months to Sept 30, it stemmed its bleeding further to $1.2 million against a more severe $3.8 million in the year-ago period. But don't bring out the champagne yet. Much of the improvements was from cost savings - from cutting staff costs and other operating expenses. However, its revenue continues to shrink. And that's a sign that things are not exactly smooth on the path to recovery. Operating revenue fell 5 per cent to $13.7 million in the latest quarter, and was down 17 per cent to $11.7 million in the three months to June this year. And despite a few rounds of capital injections in the last two years, Informatics' financial standing is still far from healthy. As at end-September, its trade and other payables amounted to $31.1 million - exceeding its total current assets of $27.4 million. In other words, even if Informatics were to convert all its current assets into cash, it still wouldn't have enough to pay off its debtors. In all, it has negative assets of $18.3 million. Which is why more capital is needed. This week, Informatics proposed another rights issue to raise capital from existing shareholders. The rights share at 4 cents apiece will be allotted based on a ratio of one for every two existing shares held. Vincent Tan's Berjaya Leisure Capital and Berjaya General Insurance Bhd, which own a collective 33.5 per cent of Informatics, have given irrevocable undertakings to fully subscribe for the rights shares allotted to them. If only the Berjaya group pumped in the new capital, Informatics would raise only $5.1 million net of expenses - hardly substantial enough to strengthen the group's balance sheet. If all shareholders decided to give the group another fighting chance, then it would raise $16.2 million. Further down the road, the question of how much more Vincent Tan is willing and can afford to pump into Informatics has to be asked. Returning Informatics to its former glory will not be easy. As many know, a brand name, once tarnished, will take some time to rebuild. Meanwhile, the main markets for Informatics - Singapore and Hong Kong - are relatively developed and thus highly competitive. The mitigating factor, however, is the Singapore government's drive to make the republic an educational hub, with the aim of attracting 150,000 foreign students by 2012, and grab a bigger slice of the world education market estimated to be worth US$2.2 trillion. As for Informatics' franchise model in developing countries, it has proven to be less than ideal. It would take significant resources and investments to build up any material network on their own in those countries - something Informatics may not be able to afford. And in the intervening years when Informatics was sorting out its problems, a few regional education groups have emerged. So all said, it doesn't appear that Informatics is out of the woods yet. |
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jensonlaw
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08-Dec-2006 08:57
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Below is a risk-returns analysis made by a fellow investor in another forum on Informatics Education Ltd, which I would like to share with fellow investor at this forum.
If you have S$10,000 to invest, there's great potential in Informatics Education.
3 ways to go about it:
a. You can buy now 140,000 @ 7c Informatics now and hold.
b. You buy 120,000 wrt 2011 @ 3.5c now for $4,200. Keep the rest S$ 5,800 in your bank account. 5 yrs later subscribe the Informatics shares with S$ 5,800 if still viable. c. You buy up 285,000 wrt 2011 @ 3.5c. A hura hura hura style. Assume 5 years later : If Informatics go bust along the way within 5 years. Case A you lose 10K. But in case B you lose the wrt cost ie 4.2K. In case C, you also lose 10K. If Informatics close at 5 cents. Case A you lose 2.8K. Case B you lose 4.2K. Case C you lose 10K. If Informatics close at 10 cents. Case A you make 4.2K. Case B you make 1.8K. Case C you make 4.5K. You will be better off if Informatics is going higher and higher. You also don't have to wait for 5 years to get out, depending the choice you opt to be in. Case B will limit your loss to be below 10K, whereas Case C is for the very brave breed. But if shares shoot up to 20 cents, you will be much richer under Case C than other 2 cases, for you are captitalising on the full leverage.
The above analysis is provided by wangkw at another Investor Forum.
Personally, I think you can double your investment via the above in a few months time. Mark my words!
Merry X'mas and Happy Returns shortly.
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jensonlaw
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06-Dec-2006 09:49
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Why are ppl buying the warrants 2011 @ 4c, and then pay another 5c to convert them into the mother shares? The mother share is currently trading at 7.5c, so it should be rational to just buy the mother share right away. If sellers are so reluctant to let go, then rightfully the share price should go up. Personally, I think there's potential in this battled stock. |
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iPunter
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05-Dec-2006 23:44
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But during normal times of thin thin volume, you may be buying from a few people who are desperate and need money. |
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iPunter
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05-Dec-2006 23:40
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The volume comes only when it is on the cheong. |
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billywows
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05-Dec-2006 23:35
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When buying into any stock, check its fundamentals first. Informatic has been quiet all the while .... One question: Will you send your kids to study there? If you won't, avoid this counter hor .... How many kids can you send there to study to boost its revenue? HeeHee! Pls play stocks with regular volume lah. I rest my case. :P |
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