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pharoah88
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HDB  @ S$1 Million

COSCO @ S$8.20

Wilmar @ S$7.17

GENTING  SP  BURSTS  NEW TOPS

GENTING  HK  must  BREACH  PEAK
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GENTING  HK

HISTORIC  PEAK

USD2.15



tradermonster      ( Date: 13-Sep-2010 16:28) Posted:

GENTING HONG KONG LIMITED
Full Company Name: Genting Hong Kong Limited
(formerly: Star Cruises Limited)
Incorporated in : BERMUDA
Incorporated on : 10 Nov 1993
ISIN Code : BMG3924T1062
Registered Office : Canon's Court
22 Victoria Street
Hamilton HM12
Bermuda
Telephone: 852 23782000
Fax: 852 23143809
Secretary: Louisa Tam Suet Lin
Appleby Corporate Services (Bermuda) Ltd
Link to Internet Website
1st Day Closing Price                                        USD2.150
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13-Sep-2010 20:09     
 
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As the presidents says during the GentingHK siminar, now too cheap to have right issue, maybe 0.60cts.
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e Genting HK US$ S21 i -- USD 0.510
+0.070 +15.9 372,936,000 6,469,000 0.505 0.510 3,242,000 0.445 0.440 0.510 0.440   M    
GENTING BHD 3182 i CD MYR 9.570
+0.160 +1.7 14,297,600 3,000 9.550 9.570 91,200 9.410 9.410 9.570 9.250 --
GENTING MYS BHD 4715 i CD MYR 3.100
+0.100 +3.3 6,665,400 30,000 3.070 3.100 756,500 3.030 3.000 3.100 3.020 --
Genting SP G13 i -- SGD 1.990
+0.160 +8.7 204,110,000 1,837,000 1.980 1.990 1,022,000 1.860 1.830 2.000 1.840   M    
GentingSMBLeCW120402 J2UW i -- SGD 0.245
+0.025 +11.4 379,000 20,000 0.235 0.250 10,000 0.220 0.220 0.245 0.220   M    
GentingSMBLeCW130103 L2PW i -- SGD 0.190
+0.030 +18.8 357,000 45,000 0.185 0.240 100,000 0.170 0.160 0.190 0.170 --
GentingSMBLeCW130603 L0QW i -- SGD 0.250
+0.030 +13.6 244,000 12,000 0.250 0.260 15,000 0.225 0.220 0.250 0.225   M  
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tradermonster      ( Date: 13-Sep-2010 18:10) Posted:

You Bet! If all things go well we should expect GHK to go up to USD1.08 within 6 months, following the same path as GS but in USD.

You see, GHK has been well overlooked for two reasons:

1) GS has taken the limelight from it in the last 6 months.
2) It is "remote" from Singapore, just like Genting Malaysia, albeit, GM is closer to Singapore.

The potential for growth for GHK is much higher as it has other things to offer as well as a huge population base. Also, it is closer to China. Many Chinese high rollers prefer a casino outside of Macau for a reason.

You may like to know that the Mkt. Cap for GHK and GS now stand at about USD3.12B & SGD21.42B respectively. GHK currently has the propensity to earn half as much as GS in the short term but should at least equal or more than that of GS in the longer term. As GHK has less shares floated, it therefore should be about 75% of what GS is worth in the short term, but in USD. Short term in this context is in the next 12 months.
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 Alert Admin 		You Bet! If all things go well we should expect GHK to go up to USD1.08 within 6 months, following the same path as GS but in USD.

You see, GHK has been well overlooked for two reasons:

1) GS has taken the limelight from it in the last 6 months.
2) It is "remote" from Singapore, just like Genting Malaysia, albeit, GM is closer to Singapore.

The potential for growth for GHK is much higher as it has other things to offer as well as a huge population base. Also, it is closer to China. Many Chinese high rollers prefer a casino outside of Macau for a reason.

You may like to know that the Mkt. Cap for GHK and GS now stand at about USD3.12B & SGD21.42B respectively. GHK currently has the propensity to earn half as much as GS in the short term but should at least equal or more than that of GS in the longer term. As GHK has less shares floated, it therefore should be about 75% of what GS is worth in the short term, but in USD. Short term in this context is in the next 12 months.
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Monday: 13 SEPTEMBER 2010 CLOSING

Stock Code i Rmk Ccy Last $Chng %Chng Vol Buy Vol Buy Sell Sell Vol Open Previous Day Hi Day Lo Ind
e Genting HK US$ S21 i -- USD 0.510
+0.070 +15.9 372,936,000 6,469,000 0.505 0.510 3,242,000 0.445 0.440 0.510 0.440   M    
Genting SP G13 i -- SGD 1.990
+0.160 +8.7 204,110,000 1,837,000 1.980 1.990 1,022,000 1.860 1.830 2.000 1.840   M    
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Monday: 13 SEPTEMBER 2010  CLOSING

 

e Genting HK US$ (S21) 
Day Hi 0.510 Last 0.510 Vol 372,936,000
Day Lo 0.440 $Chng +0.070

 

 

Price Trades Volume Sold to Buyer Mid Bought from Seller
0.440 7 367,000 367,000 0 0
0.445 166 19,217,000 11,946,000 0 7,271,000
0.449 1 130,000 0 130,000 0
0.450 287 33,104,000 1,802,000 0 31,302,000
0.454 1 24,000 0 24,000 0
0.455 363 34,587,000 6,352,000 0 28,235,000
0.460 86 17,487,000 688,000 0 16,799,000
0.465 133 20,790,000 4,003,000 0 16,787,000
0.470 148 13,285,000 2,052,000 0 11,233,000
0.475 295 24,607,000 2,599,000 0 22,008,000
0.480 203 15,705,000 818,000 0 14,887,000
0.485 287 30,938,000 15,405,000 0 15,533,000
0.488 1 80,000 0 80,000 0
0.490 216 30,230,000 9,636,000 0 20,594,000
0.492 1 50,000 0 50,000 0
0.495 288 39,831,000 14,411,000 0 25,420,000
0.497 3 98,000 0 98,000 0
0.498 2 55,000 0 55,000 0
0.500 337 42,532,000 14,988,000 0 27,544,000
0.505 227 32,076,000 8,384,000 0 23,692,000
0.510 245 17,743,000 0 0 17,743,000
TOTAL 3,297 372,936,000 93,451,000 437,000 279,048,000



pharoah88      ( Date: 13-Sep-2010 17:41) Posted:

Monday: 13 SEPTEMBER 2010  CLOSING

17:05:03 0.510 3,673,000 Bought From Seller



pharoah88      ( Date: 13-Sep-2010 16:45) Posted:

 

 

16:36:51 0.505 3,000,000 Bought From Seller
16:36:51 0.505 5,000,000 Bought From Seller

16:31:53 0.500 1,000,000 Bought From Seller

16:21:25 0.505 1,000,000 Bought From Seller

16:20:28 0.500 10,196,000 Bought From Seller
16:20:26 0.500 25,000 Bought From Seller
16:20:24 0.500 3,500,000 Bought From Seller

16:16:50 0.495 1,213,000 Bought From Seller
16:16:50 0.495 1,000,000 Bought From Seller
16:16:49 0.495 1,000,000 Bought From Seller
16:16:49 0.495 200,000 Bought From Seller
16:16:48 0.495 500,000 Bought From Seller
16:16:47 0.495 10,000 Bought From Seller
16:16:46 0.495 5,000,000 Bought From Seller

15:58:58 0.490 1,012,000 Bought From Seller

15:50:51 0.490 1,842,000 Bought From Seller

15:39:54 0.495 2,000,000 Bought From Seller


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What’s New
• Essentially maintaining our 2011-02 forecasts following yesterday’s 1H10 results (refer to RHS table overleaf), but tweaking 2010’s earnings downwards mainly due to forex losses at Norwegian Cruise Line (NCL).
• We expect Genting Hong Kong (GENHK) to unveil a much stronger net profit in 2H10 led by seasonal strength in the cruise business and snowballing profits at Resorts World Manila (RWM).

Stock Impact
• 1H10 earnings indicate sustained recovery. GENHK achieved an estimated pre-exceptional net profit of US$0.2m in 1H10, reversing 1H09’s loss of US$21.7m. The figure is at the low end of our forecast, due to start-up costs for the EPIC (which set sail in July) at 50%-owned US cruise operator NCL, and poor luck factor at the Penang cruise operation under Star Cruises (Asian cruise operation).
• A much stronger 2H10 unfolding. We expect GENHK to deliver a net profit of US$77m, driven by strong 3Q10 seasonal demand at both NCL and Star Cruises, and with RWM steamrolling out fat returns. Earnings drivers for the cruise business are: a) rising ticket prices at both NCL (+5.8% yoy for NCL in 1H10) and Star Cruises, b) rising occupancy rates of >100% for non-day cruise routes, c) absence of 1H10’s pre-operating cost and maiden contribution for the EPIC, d) increased ship utilisation at Star Cruises with new route deployment (Hong Kong-Taiwan-Japan cruise) and bareboat charter with NCL for Norwegian Sky (1 Jul 10 to 31 Dec 12) for a total charter hire fee of US$53.4m, and e) normalised luck factor at the cruise casino operation.
• RWM’s rising attractiveness. 50%-owned RWM performed in line, contributing about US$10.2m to GENHK’s net profit, against our full-year forecast of US$39.1m. The payback for this >US$400m project has been so lucrative that its net debt has fallen to about US$50m.
• RWM could top our 2010 net profit expectation of US$78m should it continue to deliver a gross gaming win of at least US$1.5m (which we estimate it has achieved in Jun-Aug 10) compared with just over US$1.0m in 1H10. We understand that Jul 10’s annualised net earnings reached US$160m, and RWM also clocked in the highest daily win last week exceeding US$7.0m. For 2011, we expect RWM to deliver a net profit of US$215.5m assuming a daily win of almost US$1.6m and EBITDA margin of 41%.
• Potentially a big beneficiary of Manila. There are talks of the Philippine’s new administration exploring the possibility of outlawing slot parlour operations at non-tourist sites. If true, RWM could gain market share in the lucrative market. RWM’s slot operation (over 1,200 machines), which accounts for an estimated one-third of RWM’s bottom line, could gain significantly. Presently, non-casino slot parlours operate about 5,000 slot machines. RWM could eventually attract 20,000-25,000 visitors daily, up from 9,000 presently, after the integrated resort-casino’s grand opening at end-Nov 10. Potentially another crowd booster, there is a possibility that city check-in could be introduced for the nearby local (budget) air terminal.
• No competition in sight. It appears that the other three licence concessionaries at the Manila Bay mega casino development have initiated little construction works (if at all), thus giving RWM more time to harvest the burgeoning demand integrated resort-casinos.[/b]

Earnings Revision
• We trim our 2010, 2011 and 2012 net profit forecasts by 6.5%, 2.5%, 3.2% to US$8937m, US$181.0m and US$195.6m respectively. By 2011, RWM is expected to account for about 60% of GENHK’s net profit.
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Monday: 13 SEPTEMBER 2010  CLOSING

17:05:03 0.510 3,673,000 Bought From Seller



pharoah88      ( Date: 13-Sep-2010 16:45) Posted:

 

 

16:36:51 0.505 3,000,000 Bought From Seller
16:36:51 0.505 5,000,000 Bought From Seller

16:31:53 0.500 1,000,000 Bought From Seller

16:21:25 0.505 1,000,000 Bought From Seller

16:20:28 0.500 10,196,000 Bought From Seller
16:20:26 0.500 25,000 Bought From Seller
16:20:24 0.500 3,500,000 Bought From Seller

16:16:50 0.495 1,213,000 Bought From Seller
16:16:50 0.495 1,000,000 Bought From Seller
16:16:49 0.495 1,000,000 Bought From Seller
16:16:49 0.495 200,000 Bought From Seller
16:16:48 0.495 500,000 Bought From Seller
16:16:47 0.495 10,000 Bought From Seller
16:16:46 0.495 5,000,000 Bought From Seller

15:58:58 0.490 1,012,000 Bought From Seller

15:50:51 0.490 1,842,000 Bought From Seller

15:39:54 0.495 2,000,000 Bought From Seller



pharoah88      ( Date: 13-Sep-2010 15:20) Posted:

 

15:19:24 0.500 260,000 Bought From Seller
15:19:23 0.500 250,000 Bought From Seller
15:19:22 0.500 50,000 Bought From Seller
15:19:21 0.500 200,000 Bought From Seller

15:16:30 0.495 3,030,000 Bought From Seller

15:10:54 0.490 3,275,000 Bought From Seller
15:10:53 0.490 50,000 Bought From Seller
15:10:53 0.490 200,000 Bought From Seller
15:10:52 0.490 5,000,000 Bought From Seller

14:40:25 0.485 2,500,000 Bought From Seller
14:40:23 0.480 5,000 Sold To Buyer
14:40:23 0.485 3,000,000 Bought From Seller

14:37:52 0.480 3,000,000 Bought From Seller

14:36:01 0.480 1,000,000 Bought From Seller


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dont put all the eggs in 1 basket? at least spread it into 2 or 3? like twin genting? hahaa..



spicy88      ( Date: 13-Sep-2010 17:25) Posted:

pharoah88....you are full of confidence....and temp me to wanting put all my eggs into this... is it wise?
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NEVER

nOt  aLL  yOur  eGGs

nOt  marrIed  tO  GENTING  HK



spicy88      ( Date: 13-Sep-2010 17:25) Posted:

pharoah88....you are full of confidence....and temp me to wanting put all my eggs into this... is it wise?
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 Alert Admin 		pharoah88....you are full of confidence....and temp me to wanting put all my eggs into this... is it wise?
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16:36:51 0.505 3,000,000 Bought From Seller
16:36:51 0.505 5,000,000 Bought From Seller

16:31:53 0.500 1,000,000 Bought From Seller

16:21:25 0.505 1,000,000 Bought From Seller

16:20:28 0.500 10,196,000 Bought From Seller
16:20:26 0.500 25,000 Bought From Seller
16:20:24 0.500 3,500,000 Bought From Seller

16:16:50 0.495 1,213,000 Bought From Seller
16:16:50 0.495 1,000,000 Bought From Seller
16:16:49 0.495 1,000,000 Bought From Seller
16:16:49 0.495 200,000 Bought From Seller
16:16:48 0.495 500,000 Bought From Seller
16:16:47 0.495 10,000 Bought From Seller
16:16:46 0.495 5,000,000 Bought From Seller

15:58:58 0.490 1,012,000 Bought From Seller

15:50:51 0.490 1,842,000 Bought From Seller

15:39:54 0.495 2,000,000 Bought From Seller



pharoah88      ( Date: 13-Sep-2010 15:20) Posted:

 

15:19:24 0.500 260,000 Bought From Seller
15:19:23 0.500 250,000 Bought From Seller
15:19:22 0.500 50,000 Bought From Seller
15:19:21 0.500 200,000 Bought From Seller

15:16:30 0.495 3,030,000 Bought From Seller

15:10:54 0.490 3,275,000 Bought From Seller
15:10:53 0.490 50,000 Bought From Seller
15:10:53 0.490 200,000 Bought From Seller
15:10:52 0.490 5,000,000 Bought From Seller

14:40:25 0.485 2,500,000 Bought From Seller
14:40:23 0.480 5,000 Sold To Buyer
14:40:23 0.485 3,000,000 Bought From Seller

14:37:52 0.480 3,000,000 Bought From Seller

14:36:01 0.480 1,000,000 Bought From Seller



pharoah88      ( Date: 13-Sep-2010 14:29) Posted:

14:27:50 0.480 50,000 Bought From Seller

26:36 0.475 2,509,000 Bought From Seller

14:18:12 0.475 1,366,000 Bought From Seller

14:16:30 0.475 1,297,000 Bought From Seller

14:12:56 0.470 2,000,000 Bought From Seller

14:04:23 0.470 1,000,000 Bought From Seller
14:04:11 0.470 15,000 Bought From Seller
14:04:10 0.470 3,000 Bought From Seller
14:04:10 0.470 10,000 Bought From Seller
14:04:08 0.470 200,000 Bought From Seller
14:04:06 0.470 5,000 Bought From Seller
14:04:04 0.470 5,000 Bought From Seller
14:04:04 0.470 100,000 Bought From Seller
14:04:03 0.470 254,000 Bought From Seller
14:04:02 0.470 851,000 Bought From Seller

14:02:32 0.465 1,020,000 Bought From Seller
14:02:31 0.465 470,000 Bought From Seller
14:02:31 0.465 10,000 Bought From Seller
14:02:30 0.465 210,000 Bought From Seller
14:02:29 0.465 450,000 Bought From Seller
14:02:28 0.465 30,000 Bought From Seller
14:02:28 0.465 1,050,000 Bought From Seller

14:00:40 0.460 6,268,000 Bought From Seller
14:00:40 0.460 8,000,000 Bought From Seller


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No 1 in tis world can buy @ e cheapest px & sell @ e highest px...

Unless, u r gut damn lucky...

Rotational play lah... When my friend asked me 2 buy Genting HK US$ @ 0.190 & I din buy. Once I hv missed e boat, I wun chase liao. Tis' my trading style...

Genting HK US$ was no movemt @ all during 0.190... U shd hv bot when a Counter's not moving many many days. Like my Meiban Gp now...

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spicy88      ( Date: 13-Sep-2010 16:32) Posted:

should I sell some first then buy back tomorrow? the problem is when the stock is so hot, the buying price gets pricier...and the tricky part is to identify when that bubble break...experience from the past was really bloody...
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 Alert Admin 		should I sell some first then buy back tomorrow? the problem is when the stock is so hot, the buying price gets pricier...and the tricky part is to identify when that bubble break...experience from the past was really bloody...
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USD0.70 BY END ON SEPTEMBER 2010

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GENTING HONG KONG LIMITED
Full Company Name: Genting Hong Kong Limited
(formerly: Star Cruises Limited)
Incorporated in : BERMUDA
Incorporated on : 10 Nov 1993
ISIN Code : BMG3924T1062
Registered Office : Canon's Court
22 Victoria Street
Hamilton HM12
Bermuda
Telephone: 852 23782000
Fax: 852 23143809
Secretary: Louisa Tam Suet Lin
Appleby Corporate Services (Bermuda) Ltd
Link to Internet Website
1st Day Closing Price                                        USD2.150
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there are many things to consider before taking on positions.. Cash.. Holding power.. Psychology, Confidence, and many more.. Are you ready?

The last thing to do is bought it and wish that your finger should not had click so fast...



Bon3260      ( Date: 13-Sep-2010 16:23) Posted:

Spicy88,

Tmr STI 'll red red instead...

Think carefully if u still 1 2 buy. Always rmbr, b4 u buy... U muz ask urself who'll buy fm u @ higher px aft u hv bot.

Dun b e last pax buy e exp tickets...

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elton81      ( Date: 13-Sep-2010 16:17) Posted:

remember paper trading doesnt need to queue :
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