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ethanetoh Member	11-Jul-2013 19:43        ethanetoh About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	No best opportunity to get vard at low price, world demand for oil will be record high nx year. Buy...
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NoMoney Veteran	11-Jul-2013 19:40        NoMoney About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	careful in shorting. normally price is either been short or pushed up before the news. and Brazil news also an old news just that now with full report Mardi.tan      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 19:19) Posted: let's short tomorrow!! No div,,,sure down
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Mardi.tan Member	11-Jul-2013 19:19        Mardi.tan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	let's short tomorrow!! No div,,,sure down
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JarolLo Veteran	11-Jul-2013 19:14        JarolLo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Definable very bad. Two important to consider: 1). Whether the mgt has any plan of recovery. How the BB read it, 2) whether the recent downturn price had taken full effect of the actual figures. If yes, then it's safe, failure which to tomorrow will be down some more. Bear in mind these 2 days went up a bit, may not be good for tomorrow. Could be shortist building up strength. Finally, take care uncleschampy      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 18:48) Posted: not really good at reading reports, but isnt this very bad ? Will tomorrow crash ? [IMG]http://i41.tinypic.com/mjwnec.png[/IMG]
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uncleschampy Member	11-Jul-2013 18:48        uncleschampy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	not really good at reading reports, but isnt this very bad ? Will tomorrow crash ? [IMG]http://i41.tinypic.com/mjwnec.png[/IMG]
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Peter_Pan Supreme	11-Jul-2013 18:25        Peter_Pan About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "did you order dunkin' donuts"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I think weakholders almost dried up liao..shorting will be like playing with fire..because big hands are accumulating liao. Tomorrow i also not sure able to get lower or not...
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SFGuyRuleZ Veteran	11-Jul-2013 18:12        SFGuyRuleZ About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Yells: "You are your own master.."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I think he already shorted yest at 0.83 that's why now panic and here to scare people. Sometimes, is too easy to tell who are those shortists here. In all the ship building and shipping logistics counters forums I read here, he only has negative views and comments for them and it comes as no surprise if he shorts this counter..  flyfox      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:57) Posted: haha you so confident, maybe u should short to make money also ynnek1267      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:56) Posted: wah, so many supporters. it will only attract shortist interest to bring it down further.
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InvestNotTrade Member	11-Jul-2013 18:08        InvestNotTrade About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Aiyo, seeing it report a loss with no dividend, think I shld change to "short" camp liao, despite supporting it all the way since 1.22 offer
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Peter_Pan Supreme	11-Jul-2013 18:04        Peter_Pan About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "did you order dunkin' donuts"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Since i already dumped her today...tomorrow will see want to give her another chance or not!!!
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SFGuyRuleZ Veteran	11-Jul-2013 18:04        SFGuyRuleZ About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Yells: "You are your own master.."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Stocks are considered to be relatively liquid, meaning they can easily be exchanged into cash. Adding net book value to intrinsic value would be considered a " fair" valuation. But some will not agree to sum them up. It has to depend on how one valuate that stock to be " fair" . At least that's what I learnt last time. If you have a different interpretation, can share with me also..  pineapple123      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:51) Posted: how'd you even come to this?? could you enlighten me? i study finance but i haven't heard of deriving fair value/share in this manner before. cheers. SFGuyRuleZ      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:42) Posted: Based on half-yr results which is just released: Net book Value / share (excluding intangible assets) ~= $0.55   Assuming current earnings based on half-yr results and taking into account no growth (positive or negative), Intrinsic value or DCF valuation / share ~= $0.48   Therefore, fair value / share = $1.03   The slight loss this quarter was indeed unexpected for me. But since it is a one-time loss and the loss is relatively minimal, I am not too worried. Will remain vested for me. Cheers!!
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ynnek1267 Master	11-Jul-2013 18:01        ynnek1267 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	i know your feeling, take care. SGX sentiment is still 'short'. This is very bad to Vard facing this problem in this period. flyfox      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:57) Posted: haha you so confident, maybe u should short to make money also ynnek1267      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:56) Posted: wah, so many supporters. it will only attract shortist interest to bring it down further.
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flyfox Member	11-Jul-2013 17:57        flyfox About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	haha you so confident, maybe u should short to make money also ynnek1267      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:56) Posted: wah, so many supporters. it will only attract shortist interest to bring it down further.
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ynnek1267 Master	11-Jul-2013 17:56        ynnek1267 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	wah, so many supporters. it will only attract shortist interest to bring it down further.
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flyfox Member	11-Jul-2013 17:53        flyfox About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Eh the receivables must discount abit also.   I not too sure if they can sustain it.   I wonder how the pre-openings will be like tmr..    Long term still okla..but sad to see prices falling down and down  SFGuyRuleZ      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:42) Posted: Based on half-yr results which is just released: Net book Value / share (excluding intangible assets) ~= $0.55   Assuming current earnings based on half-yr results and taking into account no growth (positive or negative), Intrinsic value or DCF valuation / share ~= $0.48   Therefore, fair value / share = $1.03   The slight loss this quarter was indeed unexpected for me. But since it is a one-time loss and the loss is relatively minimal, I am not too worried. Will remain vested for me. Cheers!!
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pineapple123 Member	11-Jul-2013 17:51        pineapple123 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	how'd you even come to this?? could you enlighten me? i study finance but i haven't heard of deriving fair value/share in this manner before. cheers. SFGuyRuleZ      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:42) Posted: Based on half-yr results which is just released: Net book Value / share (excluding intangible assets) ~= $0.55   Assuming current earnings based on half-yr results and taking into account no growth (positive or negative), Intrinsic value or DCF valuation / share ~= $0.48   Therefore, fair value / share = $1.03   The slight loss this quarter was indeed unexpected for me. But since it is a one-time loss and the loss is relatively minimal, I am not too worried. Will remain vested for me. Cheers!!
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flyfox Member	11-Jul-2013 17:51        flyfox About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Lol sorry i see wrong, its last year..   damn no dividend somemore... :((((  expertinvestor      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:29) Posted: Where got dividend! flyfox      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:25) Posted: But if its a one time off loss, still not to bad lah.   Long term they are still quite optimistic.   Plus got good dividend lol
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TinyPotato Member	11-Jul-2013 17:51        TinyPotato About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The Q2 loss of NOK 44 mil is due to the remaining write down of impairment charges NOK 70 mil related to the Brazil Yard.
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ynnek1267 Master	11-Jul-2013 17:50        ynnek1267 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	see how market interpret tomorrow loh. So far lah, once company make loss, it will make loss continually lah. to me, the management is typical angmo management lah, like to paint good picture. The fact is, revenue is drop, all the cost are getting higher & higher. Their brazil shipyard still there, project still there, cost overrun will just continue lah and require long time to overturn the situation Not good to invest at all in next 1 year.  Investor can only expect  on breakeven or becoming worse in next few quarters. cutemoney      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:37) Posted: Errm.... the result is consider bad? i thought this company still make the profit? I am confuse @_@ ynnek1267      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:32) Posted: habis lah. the management keep cheating lah, say no worry no worry, situation getting worse and worse and worse. Running yard in brazil is a mistake ah. be careful of Sembmar who is also building yard in brazil and building rigs for petrobras. Another one will overrun their cost hor.
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GorgeousOng Elite	11-Jul-2013 17:46        GorgeousOng About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Hehehaha...enjoy life n live to the fullest..."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thank you! Cheers! SFGuyRuleZ      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:42) Posted: Based on half-yr results which is just released: Net book Value / share (excluding intangible assets) ~= $0.55   Assuming current earnings based on half-yr results and taking into account no growth (positive or negative), Intrinsic value or DCF valuation / share ~= $0.48   Therefore, fair value / share = $1.03   The slight loss this quarter was indeed unexpected for me. But since it is a one-time loss and the loss is relatively minimal, I am not too worried. Will remain vested for me. Cheers!!
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rabbitfoot Veteran	11-Jul-2013 17:43        rabbitfoot About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I jual separuh in may. halleluyah      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:28) Posted: Bro rabbit, wat happened to Gallant arh?? Tak boleh jalan lei...pasal orang tak nak main....low volumme.  U masih pegang tak? rabbitfoot      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:22) Posted: Anybody got a hanky ? Started dripping leow, tears I mean
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