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iPunter
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29-Nov-2008 19:42
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You have great foresight in avoiding those hard-selling salesmen from the bank all these years... |
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lucky888
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29-Nov-2008 17:48
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all other experts to come share your views. all of you are so successful in trading and making big in stock market. | ||||
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lucky888
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29-Nov-2008 17:45
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i have around $350K on hand hope that i can grow it to 10 times and i can retire by 35. i still got 5 years to achieve it and i will go NZ to retire. I have been working hard as an auditor for past 6years and i don;t see myself working for life calculating other people's wealth. this is my 1st time looking at stock market, i escape the minibond as my RM keep asking me to invest into them whenever i go renew my fixed deposit. now i think it is the best time to buy stock and plan for my retirement. hope some of the shifu here can help me by sharing some insights with the current market. i appreciate members like cashiertan, jackjames, livermore and oth |
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lucky888
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29-Nov-2008 17:38
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can we safely buy in now since the worst seems to be over with all the massive bailout package by the US gov as well as G7 leaders. can someone share what counters to go into now? have been waiting sideline for very long. i think the worst is over and we are on the way to recovery soon. huat ahhh.. Bailouts: $7 trillion and risingEvery day brings more news about the government's efforts to fix the economy. Here is how the plans are taking shape. |
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Livermore
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29-Nov-2008 14:39
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If person A has $100k and he buys 20 stocks. Once you buy 20 stocks, it is unlikely you will have margin as our brain simply cannot work like a computer to assess your risk profile with 20 stocks. Person B has only $50k but uses margin. Just don't be surprised that after 4 years of bull run, person B far outperforms person A in profit. With $50k, just using 2/3 of your full leverage means you already have $100k ( full leverage is $150k). |
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cashiertan
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29-Nov-2008 13:59
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i know but buying leading stocks is safer. or at least leading pennies of each industry. we need to know that there r ppl who read this threads n hence need to take in consideration the less savvy n experienced ppl. hence buying the leading stock or leading pennies may be safer
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Livermore
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29-Nov-2008 13:55
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If you have a certain amount of capital and you buy 20 stocks, it is quite unlikely your overall returns in profit can match the person who focuses on a few key leading stocks. Usually the leading stocks in each industry outperforms the rest. Let's say you have 20 stocks, one needs to take note it is not that for each of your stock it has gained 100% or 200%, it is your overall net profit returns in percentage terms that really count. Even if you don't buy the leading stocks but a few stocks that can really move, trust me you will do much better than a over diversified portfolio
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cheongwee
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29-Nov-2008 12:32
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You all are right. Can say 99.9999% end up with dream remain a dream at the day they died. So forget about regret, life too short to regret about thing u didnt do...try do something so you regret less...sure we can tok but soon we find ourselves back to self pity..but other than that what can we do..we want to be prefect in very thing...health, wealth and so on...but that is just not possible. The time is now...now we can do something ..but past is over, cry also useless...and future we dont know we will be there, be it good or bad....but trust me...it is 99.999% bad. Live one day at a time..remember life is short..if lucky.personnally got another 20..if not than it is ok...i have think abt it and accept it..even if you dont u still got to go...accept will be less painful...just like u accept lose in the market and move on...just remember to make less mistake, then u will find yourself in tthe profit....may you all be well..
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ten4one
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29-Nov-2008 10:55
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Hey, you only live 2wice, you know. One for your dream and one for yourself. Live it up man! Life is short........Just nike it! Cheers!
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jackjames
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29-Nov-2008 08:05
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yes, no harm trying, Obama started to form a team to get ready next year for a big boost... AIG can be a good play just because the price is relatively cheaper. Again, it is too big to fail. The return can be quite attractive if it starts to roar.
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jackjames
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29-Nov-2008 08:01
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No, I don't like him. I buy Citigroup because of GIC. I want to prove myself that I can make better decision than them, of course, they made numerous successful transaction, but with only 1 mistake they made (in fact 2 now as I know, UBS too), they can loss like crazy in one overnight just because of the public nerve. I bought Citigroup mainbly because it is too cheap to be true, and it is too big to fail (sound familiar). And, I like those stock than can give 100% easily, because your purchase price is very low.. Singapore stock is very hard to get this kind of return, unless, you buy Hyflux at 1.11, and sell at 2.10, or Sembmarine at 1.15 and sell at 2.15, that's close to 100% return last month.. or even Ezra at 0.33 sell, and 0.6++ My Toh Guan flat is built in 1998, I bought in early 2007, move into the house in July 1st, 2007. and, sold the house last 2 weeks, at gain of 45.51%, that's 1 year and 4 months stay only. Good enough. I am PR, using bank loan, can sell after occupying for 1 year. I sold at 518K, (willing to reduce the selling price, because I press down the agent fees), common practice seller to agent is 2% of the selling price, but I only give 0.579% agent fees, in addition, I also sold my sofa, and dining tables to the buyer. You will see 518K transaction price appeared in HDB resale transaction homepage after 3 months, that's about Feb 2009, or March 2009. HDB transacted price on the homepage is actually 3 months ago transaction. Back to the stock, I am eyeing on KeppelCorp, SembMarine, Raffles Education, TatHong. cheers.
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cashiertan
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29-Nov-2008 05:07
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Prudent choice. no harm taking profit.
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AK_Francis
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29-Nov-2008 01:36
Yells: "Happy go lucky, cheers." |
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For those who made, congrate. Those hesitate, loong, n can try as well. CA applies. | ||||
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Luostock
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29-Nov-2008 00:22
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JJ, you use Oei's Strategy ? How's is yr flat, sold ? | ||||
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jackjames
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29-Nov-2008 00:06
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now, it's 12.04 am.... I just sold all my Citigroup shares today at USD 8.00.... it can go up to 8.20 today or 9 next week, but I don't care, because it hit my 100% gain return, beautiful , muaksss... Morgan Stanley made me first jackpot, now Citigroup, the next bank share I will eye on is ING or Merrill Lynch, but NOT NOW.. cheers... |
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cashiertan
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28-Nov-2008 23:18
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I will personally do as what livermore suggested. there is no need to hold 18 stocks fir even if market recovers. the returns will be average. there is way to diversify portfolio. one strategy is to buy the best of its. indusstry. 1 for each industry should be sufficient. 18 penies is like he wanna do 18 luohan like that. lol
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Livermore
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28-Nov-2008 18:47
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Hi Hulumas, You indeed have many stocks. Maybe it is better to have few stocks and easy to focus. When the bull phase starts, a better way in my opinion is keep focus on the few stocks you feel have a "long way" to go. When correction happens, sell and buy back at lower price. With fewer stocks, you have just maybe 4 or 5 charts to determine when to sell and buy back. With 18 stocks, that's quite hard to track unless you just prefer to hold it for many years
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jackjames
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28-Nov-2008 16:22
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don't take my "lol" seriously... this is just a cyber world, heee.. sometimes easy to get misunderstood... hot property ? no experience? fear not, next round -> Buana Vista, 101% guaranteed.
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jackjames
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28-Nov-2008 16:18
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can buy more next year then ~ ~ ~ nothing new, almost all singaporean know next year will crash big time, all housing agent will tell you so, prepare $$$$$$ to show hand next year , cheers ~
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cashiertan
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28-Nov-2008 16:10
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why laugh, i never laugh at you for your plan are feasible to me. the reason of not telling what i buy is that i dun want anyone to hold me liable. also like i dun like copycats. my plans to start this thread is to inspired ppl to aim/plan what they want and not to lose hopes when we are swarmed by all the BAD BEAR NEWS and threads. This thread will be one of the 1st few POSITIVE beacons for ppl to gather. I understand your view but I do not share the same level of views as yours and most of the ppl here, i see things on a broader and further view. Ppl may think i sound cocky, so be it. Will you scold or tulan your boss for pointing out your flaws? yupz I admit i am of better and higher position than some ppl here but i like to offer my help in my own ways. JJ, I wont be surprise if ur citi or aig shares can go up so high provided u have actually brought them last week. as for ur condo plan, i have no experience and knowledge in properties for i can afford to buy condo in singapore for now. As long as u have a plan the chances of u making money increases and i will wish u luck in executing your plan..
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