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 Alert Admin 		Yes, this is ready to jump. I am buying, have been buying. This is no GaoXing, no Hongxing, no Hongwei. This has got dividend payout.

freeme      ( Date: 24-Mar-2011 17:25) Posted:



if no scandal, no china anyhow tightening n create fear.. i dun see why taisan wont move up..

PE even nw i tink is less than 4. EPS 20+RMB, n running nearly full capacity at least for this year. Still give dividend..  

zhixuen      ( Date: 24-Mar-2011 17:18) Posted:



29 Cents is long journey.

18.5 is a critical resistance once surpass then 0.24 might see
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if no scandal, no china anyhow tightening n create fear.. i dun see why taisan wont move up..

PE even nw i tink is less than 4. EPS 20+RMB, n running nearly full capacity at least for this year. Still give dividend..  

zhixuen      ( Date: 24-Mar-2011 17:18) Posted:



29 Cents is long journey.

18.5 is a critical resistance once surpass then 0.24 might see.

freeme      ( Date: 24-Mar-2011 17:15) Posted:

ya.. ho seh la.. faithful get awarded.. hope thats not all.. 29cts is cimb TP.. im more caution.. hit 24cts im hapi enough le.
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29 Cents is long journey.

18.5 is a critical resistance once surpass then 0.24 might see.

freeme      ( Date: 24-Mar-2011 17:15) Posted:

ya.. ho seh la.. faithful get awarded.. hope thats not all.. 29cts is cimb TP.. im more caution.. hit 24cts im hapi enough le..

knightrider      ( Date: 24-Mar-2011 17:00) Posted:

Ho say liao ! S$0.16 !!!
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knightrider      ( Date: 24-Mar-2011 17:00) Posted:

Ho say liao ! S$0.16 !!!
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Taisan is not Gaoxing. See article in Next below :-

• China Taisan (CTSAN SP S$0.14 BUY, TP S$0.29). Taisan closed 3.7% higher at midday versus yesterday's S$0.135 (a 52 week low).

In Taisan’s case, the external auditors have also verified the cash balances and the accounts have been audited.

Taisan is also in the process of setting up an internal audit function. The annual report should be out by mid April.

Taisan has also recently announced a DPS of Rmb 2.27 fen (or scrips in-lieu of cash dividends).

The Company has nine customers that account for more than 5% of receivables. The largest customer accounted for more than 10% of its receivables.

More than 71% of the receivables have been collected to date (70.8% as at the date when the Company responded to the SGX queries on its receivables).



des_khor      ( Date: 24-Mar-2011 11:08) Posted:

If can avoid S-Chips better avoid as we don't know  how many are they going to discover the monkey business soon !!

warrenbegger      ( Date: 24-Mar-2011 10:04) Posted:



Sell if can, try not to hold any S-cheat now. All S-cheat now not very stable. Sgx  start playing eagle catch Sour-chick game now.

If Gao Sai really kanna suspended today, Taisan either pull down again, or will be top textile S-chick counter in sgx. Either good or bad, depend on your gamble bet now.
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warrenbegger      ( Date: 24-Mar-2011 10:04) Posted:



Sell if can, try not to hold any S-cheat now. All S-cheat now not very stable. Sgx  start playing eagle catch Sour-chick game now.

If Gao Sai really kanna suspended today, Taisan either pull down again, or will be top textile S-chick counter in sgx. Either good or bad, depend on your gamble bet now.
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 Alert Admin 		Whoa. Up 6.9% today. And only second day of move up.

GuavaXF30      ( Date: 23-Mar-2011 10:18) Posted:

I stand corrected. Taking back my previous posting which was due to extreme disgust at all S-Chips back then. Can see this one has better fundamentals. Am buying in now but holding for long term.

warrenbegger      ( Date: 23-Mar-2011 10:05) Posted:

Taisan management is doing  more better compare to that idiot sucker loanshark Gao Sai. If not for  both textile Hongs scandal, Taisan wont end up so ugly even BBs also give up
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Sell if can, try not to hold any S-cheat now. All S-cheat now not very stable. Sgx  start playing eagle catch Sour-chick game now.

If Gao Sai really kanna suspended today, Taisan either pull down again, or will be top textile S-chick counter in sgx. Either good or bad, depend on your gamble bet now.
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Shit, Forgot to include unterim dividend paid out mid-2010 of 0.02 RMB cents. This together with proposed final div of RMB0.022 makes this a 5.8% div counter. WOW !

Raindrops      ( Date: 23-Mar-2011 17:48) Posted:

Finally heading north for now, Monitor for a few days and may invest in it!
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 Alert Admin 		Why i afraid? I got no holding of any S-cheat now. But i afraid many small investor wait kanna cons by S-cheat again and again and again...

rickyw      ( Date: 23-Mar-2011 17:16) Posted:

why u r not afraid it will become next china gaoxian?

warrenbegger      ( Date: 23-Mar-2011 17:09) Posted:



Dont know which BBs from last 2 weeks(i think more than  100,000+ lots)  keep unloading till today still can unload more than 10,000+ lots. Can see many small investor eating from BBs. Dont know when those BBs can finish unloading?
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 Alert Admin 		Finally heading north for now, Monitor for a few days and may invest in it!
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Gaoxian problem never give you signal.

Before halt the share price is heading north.

 

rickyw      ( Date: 23-Mar-2011 17:16) Posted:

why u r not afraid it will become next china gaoxian?

warrenbegger      ( Date: 23-Mar-2011 17:09) Posted:



Dont know which BBs from last 2 weeks(i think more than  100,000+ lots)  keep unloading till today still can unload more than 10,000+ lots. Can see many small investor eating from BBs. Dont know when those BBs can finish unloading?
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warrenbegger      ( Date: 23-Mar-2011 17:09) Posted:



Dont know which BBs from last 2 weeks(i think more than  100,000+ lots)  keep unloading till today still can unload more than 10,000+ lots. Can see many small investor eating from BBs. Dont know when those BBs can finish unloading?
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Dont know which BBs from last 2 weeks(i think more than  100,000+ lots)  keep unloading till today still can unload more than 10,000+ lots. Can see many small investor eating from BBs. Dont know when those BBs can finish unloading?
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 Alert Admin 		I stand corrected. Taking back my previous posting which was due to extreme disgust at all S-Chips back then. Can see this one has better fundamentals. Am buying in now but holding for long term.

warrenbegger      ( Date: 23-Mar-2011 10:05) Posted:

Taisan management is doing  more better compare to that idiot sucker loanshark Gao Sai. If not for  both textile Hongs scandal, Taisan wont end up so ugly even BBs also give up.

warrenbegger      ( Date: 01-Mar-2011 21:12) Posted:

Taisan management r far more better than GX. Taisan dont want to list in korean because of language barrier(dont know what they talking about and how they think). And with most of management/CEO is also taiwanese, they feel they got more strong connetion with taiwan investor over there. And for that idiot GX CEO, he is a chinaman dont know how to speak korean yet want to go Krx con them, then kanna con said what wrong PE rubbish. Taisan at least dual list in taiwan with stable success, GX made a mess in Krx and lau sai none stop! Taisan at least got share buy back, GX buy your head! Taisan got lastest investor wedsite updated, GX wedsite expiry and rot liao! Taisan always give good dividend no matter earn more or less, GX give cheapo peanuts to monkey.
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 Alert Admin 		Taisan management is doing  more better compare to that idiot sucker loanshark Gao Sai. If not for  both textile Hongs scandal, Taisan wont end up so ugly even BBs also give up.

warrenbegger      ( Date: 01-Mar-2011 21:12) Posted:

Taisan management r far more better than GX. Taisan dont want to list in korean because of language barrier(dont know what they talking about and how they think). And with most of management/CEO is also taiwanese, they feel they got more strong connetion with taiwan investor over there. And for that idiot GX CEO, he is a chinaman dont know how to speak korean yet want to go Krx con them, then kanna con said what wrong PE rubbish. Taisan at least dual list in taiwan with stable success, GX made a mess in Krx and lau sai none stop! Taisan at least got share buy back, GX buy your head! Taisan got lastest investor wedsite updated, GX wedsite expiry and rot liao! Taisan always give good dividend no matter earn more or less, GX give cheapo peanuts to monkey.

GuavaXF30      ( Date: 28-Feb-2011 23:23) Posted:



Good luck. Results may be good but so were others that were previously declared but still ended up suspended. This is still a China stock. And previous contributor mentioned this together with CGX.

What, CGX CFO has lots of experience ? Than how come they did not catch the wrong PE stated on KDR at the dual listing date ? Good management ?

That alone is one major alarm bell...
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 Alert Admin 		This is an okay counter. Unfair to paint with same brush as GaoXiang and HongXin. Buying op here...

warrenbegger      ( Date: 23-Mar-2011 09:42) Posted:

If px can maintian above 0.130 should be safe and ok given that BBs dont throw down again.

zhixuen      ( Date: 23-Mar-2011 09:29) Posted:



Looks like the selling force and changing hand are over.

 
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zhixuen      ( Date: 23-Mar-2011 09:29) Posted:



Looks like the selling force and changing hand are over.

 

zhixuen      ( Date: 22-Mar-2011 20:11) Posted:



http://cimbresearch.blogspot.com/2011/03/sin-cimb-traderpm-oh-oh-another-s-chip.html

 

 

Oh oh, another S-Chip in hot soup again?



China Gaoxian  plunged 24% on a whopping 140m shares yesterday. In stark contrast, the KDRs traded just 1.1% down yesterday (versus Friday's close). After being queried by SGX, the Company requested for trading halt last evening.
Gaoxian announced FY10 results on  27th February 2011. The latest corporate announcement was on  7th March 2011  (about 2 weeks ago) when the Company responded to SGX queries on its results.
So far, dual listing does not appear to have done much for the Companies. China Gaoxian closed at S$0.44 versus S$0.337 for the KDRs on the day the KDRs debuted. Benchmarked against the first day the KDRs were traded, the SGX-listed shares are down 57% while the KDRs are down 30%. As for China Taisan, the SGX-listed shares closed at S$0.225 versus S$0.275 for the TDRs on the first day the TDRs were traded. Again, benchmarked against the first day the TDRs were traded, the SGX-listed shares have lost 41% while the TDRs declined 24%. 
Foreland Fabrictech  (FLFT SP S$0.115, BUY, TPS$0.25) held up well, ending mid-day trading up 9.5% from yesterday's close. We spoke with its CFO this morning to confirm that both his good self and the external auditors have verified the cash at the bank. As the annual report should be out soon, the accounts have been audited. We also understand that all the receivables as at end FY10 have been collected. Also, no single customer accounts for more than 4% of the total receivables. We also believe management has been pondering a listing on another exchange to improve valuations.
China  Taisan  (CTSAN SP S$0.14 BUY, TP S$0.29). Taisan closed 3.7% higher at mid-day versus yesterdays' S$0.135 (a 52 week low). In Taisan's case, the external auditors have also verified the cash balances and the accounts have been audited. Taisan is also in the process of setting up an internal audit function. The annual report should be out by mid April. Taisan has also recently announced a DPS of Rmb 2.27 fen (or scrips in-lieu of cash dividends). The Company has nine customers that account for more than 5% of receivables. The largest customer accounted for more than 10% of its receivables. More than 71% of the receivables have been collected to date (70.8% as at the date when the Company responded to the SGX queries on its receivables). 
We also managed to speak with  China  Fibretech's  CFO who assured us that the cash balance has been verified by him and the internal and external auditors. The CFO believes that most of the receivables as at end FY10 have been collected. No single customer accounts for more than 5% of sales and as such, the CFO believes that there is no single customer that is more than 5% of its receivables. Fibretech is also contemplating a listing on a foreign exchange to better its valuations.
So, what's the moral of the story?  The CEO, the CFO, these are the guys who get to see all the numbers daily. If you don't trust these guys, just walk away. If not, it's going to be a case of garbage in, garbage out. What forecasts can you project if the numbers are just mirages in the desert?
Going by the response from Foreland and Taisan's CFOs, we find no basis to change our call and target prices. Main  BUY  on both,  TP S$0.25  for Foreland and  S$0.29  for  Taisan.
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Looks like the selling force and changing hand are over.

 

zhixuen      ( Date: 22-Mar-2011 20:11) Posted:



http://cimbresearch.blogspot.com/2011/03/sin-cimb-traderpm-oh-oh-another-s-chip.html

 

 

Oh oh, another S-Chip in hot soup again?



China Gaoxian  plunged 24% on a whopping 140m shares yesterday. In stark contrast, the KDRs traded just 1.1% down yesterday (versus Friday's close). After being queried by SGX, the Company requested for trading halt last evening.
Gaoxian announced FY10 results on  27th February 2011. The latest corporate announcement was on  7th March 2011  (about 2 weeks ago) when the Company responded to SGX queries on its results.
So far, dual listing does not appear to have done much for the Companies. China Gaoxian closed at S$0.44 versus S$0.337 for the KDRs on the day the KDRs debuted. Benchmarked against the first day the KDRs were traded, the SGX-listed shares are down 57% while the KDRs are down 30%. As for China Taisan, the SGX-listed shares closed at S$0.225 versus S$0.275 for the TDRs on the first day the TDRs were traded. Again, benchmarked against the first day the TDRs were traded, the SGX-listed shares have lost 41% while the TDRs declined 24%. 
Foreland Fabrictech  (FLFT SP S$0.115, BUY, TPS$0.25) held up well, ending mid-day trading up 9.5% from yesterday's close. We spoke with its CFO this morning to confirm that both his good self and the external auditors have verified the cash at the bank. As the annual report should be out soon, the accounts have been audited. We also understand that all the receivables as at end FY10 have been collected. Also, no single customer accounts for more than 4% of the total receivables. We also believe management has been pondering a listing on another exchange to improve valuations.
China  Taisan  (CTSAN SP S$0.14 BUY, TP S$0.29). Taisan closed 3.7% higher at mid-day versus yesterdays' S$0.135 (a 52 week low). In Taisan's case, the external auditors have also verified the cash balances and the accounts have been audited. Taisan is also in the process of setting up an internal audit function. The annual report should be out by mid April. Taisan has also recently announced a DPS of Rmb 2.27 fen (or scrips in-lieu of cash dividends). The Company has nine customers that account for more than 5% of receivables. The largest customer accounted for more than 10% of its receivables. More than 71% of the receivables have been collected to date (70.8% as at the date when the Company responded to the SGX queries on its receivables). 
We also managed to speak with  China  Fibretech's  CFO who assured us that the cash balance has been verified by him and the internal and external auditors. The CFO believes that most of the receivables as at end FY10 have been collected. No single customer accounts for more than 5% of sales and as such, the CFO believes that there is no single customer that is more than 5% of its receivables. Fibretech is also contemplating a listing on a foreign exchange to better its valuations.
So, what's the moral of the story?  The CEO, the CFO, these are the guys who get to see all the numbers daily. If you don't trust these guys, just walk away. If not, it's going to be a case of garbage in, garbage out. What forecasts can you project if the numbers are just mirages in the desert?
Going by the response from Foreland and Taisan's CFOs, we find no basis to change our call and target prices. Main  BUY  on both,  TP S$0.25  for Foreland and  S$0.29  for  Taisan.


cheongsl      ( Date: 22-Mar-2011 18:40) Posted:

My pickup point at 0.14 is closed, thus the next pickup point is 0.115, thus queue there for those donation from shortest, loh!, if it drop, good for me, can accumulated more, if it go up, good for me also as previous pickup have start to grow. Unless fundamental change then it will be bad for me, but will act based on fundamental
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