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wendel Master	10-Oct-2013 10:54        wendel About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	my reply is...oopssss..keke wxp8838      ( Date: 10-Oct-2013 10:38) Posted: So long time and so big vol at 0.075,will it beyond 0.08 today?
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wxp8838 Senior	10-Oct-2013 10:38        wxp8838 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	So long time and so big vol at 0.075,will it beyond 0.08 today?
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Spivvy Senior	10-Oct-2013 08:18        Spivvy About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	7 more days to technical debt default. U guys are saying that you all not afraid of looming market selldown? Seems all are still in the market and not adjusting their portfolio holdings? Pennies will be spared becos of the recent selldown? Time to load gao gao?
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Spivvy Senior	10-Oct-2013 08:04        Spivvy About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Lucky, why do u always insisting on 50D MA? Is there any good reason to choose it as your benchmark?
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Share7 Senior	09-Oct-2013 22:59        Share7 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	That happened bcos I queued overnight and no time to monitor. So got it by default. If I monitor, I may just withdraw if I see HK breaks down 7c. lol. Mine is not skill lah. Your's is real skill. I am more the research, study some more, then buy, then buy more, then buy more, then keep LT until target hit. I think I am more suitable for mid cap. So hopefully HK reaches mid cap soon, lol. Again by mistake, I hit lah. Trading, I jialat, either lose brokerage or 1-2 bits. leeeta      ( Date: 09-Oct-2013 22:06) Posted: You collected at 6.8cts for your ST..thats even better than me. I got to learn from you. lol. now you already earn a profit from your ST trade. Share7      ( Date: 09-Oct-2013 21:44) Posted: I don't seem to be able to get the timing correct. I will try and hope to earn a bit kopi lui
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leeeta Veteran	09-Oct-2013 22:06        leeeta About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You collected at 6.8cts for your ST..thats even better than me. I got to learn from you. lol. now you already earn a profit from your ST trade. Share7      ( Date: 09-Oct-2013 21:44) Posted: I don't seem to be able to get the timing correct. I will try and hope to earn a bit kopi lui. leeeta      ( Date: 09-Oct-2013 21:37) Posted: Share7, good to trade in a uptrend stock especially if you have a LT interest. Why? Generate volume for the counter and $$ for your pocket
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leeeta Veteran	09-Oct-2013 22:04        leeeta About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Good luck, lucky. Lucky03      ( Date: 09-Oct-2013 21:29) Posted: Thanks, leeeta. Will monitor closely and make exit if it is proven a wrong move. I remain interested in Hankore but just 'stubborn' until I see it testing near 50D MA. Like I said, it needs not necessary mean dropping to 6.3c. As the 50D MA is trending upwards, it can trade sideway and the 50D MA will still 'get near' its price and that will be the timing that I will consider re-entry. leeeta      ( Date: 09-Oct-2013 20:18) Posted: Dabbled with IPCO in the past - made some and lost some. Made some when there was speculation 12 or 15 yrs ago that their divestiture of asset will reap some RMB or SGD 200M.. could not remember, and lost all   when they stated that cash from the asset sale will not go to shareholders as bonuses. Shareprice   tanked. Thats my first lesson of not knowing how to get out from a ST trade. From   20cts to now 2ct+.. it has never given any dividends. This company placed a lot of shares and rights every couple of months..and with big names Datuk Zaid, Edward Lee having   a pie in it as well, the share never really did spike up until recently when   there was a classic pump and dump during the penny run. Even though it has   expanded into gas business, shareholders will not be rewarded..coz IPCO does now know how to make a handsome profit from their investment and does not know how to reward shareholders (could have sold Blumont and cash out with 200M).   No longer vested and never will. If you are itchy for IPCO, then do a ST trade when there is momentum..otherwise, share can trend side ways longer than HK. My 2 cents only.
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Share7 Senior	09-Oct-2013 22:01        Share7 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	lucky, HK won't trade at her NAV if not for Alan & DBS MTN, followed by non-rated analysts' reports. I won't be surprised it is still at 4c+ like many moons ago. Your 50D thingy may or may not happen as BBs also draw their own chart. It's their game & their call. Look at the volume, throwing up and down in big lots, what logic except probably to keep HK at top 30. Pres O, Dem & Rep about to give up their iron teeth. May be it is time for you to be less iron teeth as being iron teeth doesn't help you to make money but its' BB, and soon larger fund managers. Like you said before, once cruise pass 10mile, HK will attract many high net worth suitors. All the best for your IPCO trade, hopefully ST not become LT.  Lucky03      ( Date: 09-Oct-2013 21:29) Posted: Thanks, leeeta. Will monitor closely and make exit if it is proven a wrong move. I remain interested in Hankore but just 'stubborn' until I see it testing near 50D MA. Like I said, it needs not necessary mean dropping to 6.3c. As the 50D MA is trending upwards, it can trade sideway and the 50D MA will still 'get near' its price and that will be the timing that I will consider re-entry. leeeta      ( Date: 09-Oct-2013 20:18) Posted: Dabbled with IPCO in the past - made some and lost some. Made some when there was speculation 12 or 15 yrs ago that their divestiture of asset will reap some RMB or SGD 200M.. could not remember, and lost all   when they stated that cash from the asset sale will not go to shareholders as bonuses. Shareprice   tanked. Thats my first lesson of not knowing how to get out from a ST trade. From   20cts to now 2ct+.. it has never given any dividends. This company placed a lot of shares and rights every couple of months..and with big names Datuk Zaid, Edward Lee having   a pie in it as well, the share never really did spike up until recently when   there was a classic pump and dump during the penny run. Even though it has   expanded into gas business, shareholders will not be rewarded..coz IPCO does now know how to make a handsome profit from their investment and does not know how to reward shareholders (could have sold Blumont and cash out with 200M).   No longer vested and never will. If you are itchy for IPCO, then do a ST trade when there is momentum..otherwise, share can trend side ways longer than HK. My 2 cents only.
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Share7 Senior	09-Oct-2013 21:44        Share7 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I don't seem to be able to get the timing correct. I will try and hope to earn a bit kopi lui. leeeta      ( Date: 09-Oct-2013 21:37) Posted: Share7, good to trade in a uptrend stock especially if you have a LT interest. Why? Generate volume for the counter and $$ for your pocket. Share7      ( Date: 09-Oct-2013 21:27) Posted: Now HK forum more & more traders. HK's BBs enjoying range trading, now dance tango 7.3-7.8.   Don't know will tango until 17 Oct or 14 Nov. May let go my ST collected at 6.8c for kopi lui, & see whether can catch BB's tango rhythm. If not, then dance cha cha cha with BB for MT.
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leeeta Veteran	09-Oct-2013 21:37        leeeta About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Share7, good to trade in a uptrend stock especially if you have a LT interest. Why? Generate volume for the counter and $$ for your pocket. Share7      ( Date: 09-Oct-2013 21:27) Posted: Now HK forum more & more traders. HK's BBs enjoying range trading, now dance tango 7.3-7.8.   Don't know will tango until 17 Oct or 14 Nov. May let go my ST collected at 6.8c for kopi lui, & see whether can catch BB's tango rhythm. If not, then dance cha cha cha with BB for MT.   leeeta      ( Date: 09-Oct-2013 20:30) Posted: Yup, can see some scalping done today..once they   have enough, the up trend continues.    Weird I did not see 4cts the last 2 days.
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Lucky03 Veteran	09-Oct-2013 21:29        Lucky03 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thanks, leeeta. Will monitor closely and make exit if it is proven a wrong move. I remain interested in Hankore but just 'stubborn' until I see it testing near 50D MA. Like I said, it needs not necessary mean dropping to 6.3c. As the 50D MA is trending upwards, it can trade sideway and the 50D MA will still 'get near' its price and that will be the timing that I will consider re-entry. leeeta      ( Date: 09-Oct-2013 20:18) Posted: Dabbled with IPCO in the past - made some and lost some. Made some when there was speculation 12 or 15 yrs ago that their divestiture of asset will reap some RMB or SGD 200M.. could not remember, and lost all   when they stated that cash from the asset sale will not go to shareholders as bonuses. Shareprice   tanked. Thats my first lesson of not knowing how to get out from a ST trade. From   20cts to now 2ct+.. it has never given any dividends. This company placed a lot of shares and rights every couple of months..and with big names Datuk Zaid, Edward Lee having   a pie in it as well, the share never really did spike up until recently when   there was a classic pump and dump during the penny run. Even though it has   expanded into gas business, shareholders will not be rewarded..coz IPCO does now know how to make a handsome profit from their investment and does not know how to reward shareholders (could have sold Blumont and cash out with 200M).   No longer vested and never will. If you are itchy for IPCO, then do a ST trade when there is momentum..otherwise, share can trend side ways longer than HK. My 2 cents only.
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Share7 Senior	09-Oct-2013 21:27        Share7 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Now HK forum more & more traders. HK's BBs enjoying range trading, now dance tango 7.3-7.8.   Don't know will tango until 17 Oct or 14 Nov. May let go my ST collected at 6.8c for kopi lui, & see whether can catch BB's tango rhythm. If not, then dance cha cha cha with BB for MT.   leeeta      ( Date: 09-Oct-2013 20:30) Posted: Yup, can see some scalping done today..once they   have enough, the up trend continues.    Weird I did not see 4cts the last 2 days.  Share7      ( Date: 09-Oct-2013 17:08) Posted: leeeta, looks like similar pattern of trading when HK was 5-5.4c repeating? If confirmed, BB is preparing to launch his bazooka soon.
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leeeta Veteran	09-Oct-2013 20:54        leeeta About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	today never trade therefore did not glue. Went to Melben last night eat crab until lau-sai.. dunno whether it was the crab or something i ate earlier. So tired, today rest at home and relax in the toilet. kekekeke. cccx123      ( Date: 09-Oct-2013 12:27) Posted: HK's BBs not v generous, let retail ride on their coat tails. Want to earn must buy and hold long term. This stock only for v good traders able to glue their eyes to the screen. Otherwise sure get fried(shortist) or conned(contra long). susan66      ( Date: 09-Oct-2013 12:11) Posted: Everytime see all selldown only 1 lot buying, then more buyers come in & queue. Fake ones? Yesterday the last selldown 0.073, then buyers come in grab and explode up! Want to sell also puzzle. Any advice?
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leeeta Veteran	09-Oct-2013 20:49        leeeta About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Think the NTA dropped with the recent drop of the 3 musketeers. I hope the 3 musketeers will come out clean from any SGX investigation and if so, the NTA should recover but maybe not to 8. Lucky03      ( Date: 09-Oct-2013 19:35) Posted: I entered 2.3c. NTA is 8c and profitable for last 2 or 3 yrs with spike in revenue from natural gas development last FY. I avoided Blumont and Asiaon. No proven fundamental, just anticipation. In case any scandal uncovered and the stock suspended again and if this happens, may be for much longer time. I have my doubt if their management has the experience to run the new outfit of a much larger and complex outfit spanning across the region with many regulatory constrains and taxation issues to grabble with, not to mention corporate governance and management oversight and control. Bottomline, risk is not worth taking though gains may be very attractive. I shall not post more on IPCO here so as not to distract the focus on Hankore in this track. cccx123      ( Date: 09-Oct-2013 19:19) Posted: Just a tentative 500 lots until I clear up after Innopac fiasco.. Loads of reallocation to do here as I sure did not expect Innopac to become a long term investment. No chance to take advantage of HK's trading range any longer
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leeeta Veteran	09-Oct-2013 20:30        leeeta About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yup, can see some scalping done today..once they   have enough, the up trend continues.    Weird I did not see 4cts the last 2 days.  Share7      ( Date: 09-Oct-2013 17:08) Posted: leeeta, looks like similar pattern of trading when HK was 5-5.4c repeating? If confirmed, BB is preparing to launch his bazooka soon.
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leeeta Veteran	09-Oct-2013 20:23        leeeta About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	think you got better chance escaping at innopac than ipco. IPCO is forever in my watchlist as a reminder when i do trading. lol. cccx123      ( Date: 09-Oct-2013 20:21) Posted: Looks like I am getting that same lesson from Innopac that you got from ipco lol.. leeeta      ( Date: 09-Oct-2013 20:18) Posted: Dabbled with IPCO in the past - made some and lost some. Made some when there was speculation 12 or 15 yrs ago that their divestiture of asset will reap some RMB or SGD 200M.. could not remember, and lost all   when they stated that cash from the asset sale will not go to shareholders as bonuses. Shareprice   tanked. Thats my first lesson of not knowing how to get out from a ST trade. From   20cts to now 2ct+.. it has never given any dividends. This company placed a lot of shares and rights every couple of months..and with big names Datuk Zaid, Edward Lee having   a pie in it as well, the share never really did spike up until recently when   there was a classic pump and dump during the penny run. Even though it has   expanded into gas business, shareholders will not be rewarded..coz IPCO does now know how to make a handsome profit from their investment and does not know how to reward shareholders (could have sold Blumont and cash out with 200M).   No longer vested and never will. If you are itchy for IPCO, then do a ST trade when there is momentum..otherwise, share can trend side ways longer than HK. My 2 cents only.
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cccx123 Veteran	09-Oct-2013 20:21        cccx123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Looks like I am getting that same lesson from Innopac that you got from ipco lol.. leeeta      ( Date: 09-Oct-2013 20:18) Posted: Dabbled with IPCO in the past - made some and lost some. Made some when there was speculation 12 or 15 yrs ago that their divestiture of asset will reap some RMB or SGD 200M.. could not remember, and lost all   when they stated that cash from the asset sale will not go to shareholders as bonuses. Shareprice   tanked. Thats my first lesson of not knowing how to get out from a ST trade. From   20cts to now 2ct+.. it has never given any dividends. This company placed a lot of shares and rights every couple of months..and with big names Datuk Zaid, Edward Lee having   a pie in it as well, the share never really did spike up until recently when   there was a classic pump and dump during the penny run. Even though it has   expanded into gas business, shareholders will not be rewarded..coz IPCO does now know how to make a handsome profit from their investment and does not know how to reward shareholders (could have sold Blumont and cash out with 200M).   No longer vested and never will. If you are itchy for IPCO, then do a ST trade when there is momentum..otherwise, share can trend side ways longer than HK. My 2 cents only.
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leeeta Veteran	09-Oct-2013 20:18        leeeta About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Dabbled with IPCO in the past - made some and lost some. Made some when there was speculation 12 or 15 yrs ago that their divestiture of asset will reap some RMB or SGD 200M.. could not remember, and lost all   when they stated that cash from the asset sale will not go to shareholders as bonuses. Shareprice   tanked. Thats my first lesson of not knowing how to get out from a ST trade. From   20cts to now 2ct+.. it has never given any dividends. This company placed a lot of shares and rights every couple of months..and with big names Datuk Zaid, Edward Lee having   a pie in it as well, the share never really did spike up until recently when   there was a classic pump and dump during the penny run. Even though it has   expanded into gas business, shareholders will not be rewarded..coz IPCO does now know how to make a handsome profit from their investment and does not know how to reward shareholders (could have sold Blumont and cash out with 200M).   No longer vested and never will. If you are itchy for IPCO, then do a ST trade when there is momentum..otherwise, share can trend side ways longer than HK. My 2 cents only.
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Lucky03 Veteran	09-Oct-2013 19:35        Lucky03 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I entered 2.3c. NTA is 8c and profitable for last 2 or 3 yrs with spike in revenue from natural gas development last FY. I avoided Blumont and Asiaon. No proven fundamental, just anticipation. In case any scandal uncovered and the stock suspended again and if this happens, may be for much longer time. I have my doubt if their management has the experience to run the new outfit of a much larger and complex outfit spanning across the region with many regulatory constrains and taxation issues to grabble with, not to mention corporate governance and management oversight and control. Bottomline, risk is not worth taking though gains may be very attractive. I shall not post more on IPCO here so as not to distract the focus on Hankore in this track. cccx123      ( Date: 09-Oct-2013 19:19) Posted: Just a tentative 500 lots until I clear up after Innopac fiasco.. Loads of reallocation to do here as I sure did not expect Innopac to become a long term investment. No chance to take advantage of HK's trading range any longer. cccx123      ( Date: 09-Oct-2013 19:11) Posted: We think almost alike lol.. I also entered ipco at 2.4cents today. Find it v cheap even after stripping out the fair value gains from blumont and the like.
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cccx123 Veteran	09-Oct-2013 19:19        cccx123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Just a tentative 500 lots until I clear up after Innopac fiasco.. Loads of reallocation to do here as I sure did not expect Innopac to become a long term investment. No chance to take advantage of HK's trading range any longer. cccx123      ( Date: 09-Oct-2013 19:11) Posted: We think almost alike lol.. I also entered ipco at 2.4cents today. Find it v cheap even after stripping out the fair value gains from blumont and the like. Lucky03      ( Date: 09-Oct-2013 19:03) Posted: Generally, environmental protection industry and clean energy are safe opportunities with good growth potential. Hankore may just need some time to digest. It should see some renewed excitement as it approaches its Q1 result announcement around 14 Nov. In the meantime, I've entered IPCO first as I'm interested in their new found natural gas developments by its subsidiary and commitment of business strategy to focus on natural gas developments in China. The price correction is a good opportunity to enter.
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