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Rosesyrup
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05-Oct-2013 17:08
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Scary....Anyone any idea roughly how long the investigation will take?
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Bigmama
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05-Oct-2013 16:57
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If ipco holds 2.7 ~ 2.8 on monday then the worst is over. | ||||
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Jackpot2010
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05-Oct-2013 15:32
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Who is next on suspension - INNOPAC who had fallen by > 52% yesterday is highly possible, whereas IPCO only dropped by 12.5% relatively safe... for the time being only. DYODD Dollar stocks built on penny towers in ruins                             SGX suspends 3 of 6 firms it queries after their counters plummet overnight  BT published 5 Oct 2013 by Angela Tan THEY started out as penny stocks, one small coin being stacked atop another, but at such a head-turning pace that in just months, many were dollar pieces balanced on towers of pennies. Yesterday, those towers came crashing down. Singapore Exchange (SGX) undertook one of its most wide-ranging interventions in recent memory by querying six companies and swiftly suspending three of them within an hour. One trader said: " What a crazy morning. The whole screen was red at one point." The market opened yesterday with the six queried stocks - Asiasons Capital, Blumont Group, Innopac Holdings, ISDN Holdings, ISR Capital and LionGold Corp - falling sharply. They had a combined market capitalisation of $10.3 billion as at Thursday's close by the end of yesterday, their market value had more than halved to $4.7 billion. Just before SGX suspended their stocks, the market cap of Asiasons, Blumont and LionGold had fallen to $4.1 billion from $9.3 billion the night before. SGX asked the companies shortly after the open whether they knew of any undisclosed information that could account for the sharp declines, and then suspended Asiasons, Blumont and LionGold before they could reply. Investment, product sterilisation and property company Blumont, already queried earlier in the week, had announced a potential takeover of a coal-mining company before the open. It said later in the day that the deal had been called off, citing adverse trading conditions for its shares. Gold miner LionGold had announced in the afternoon that it was in advanced negotiations for a potential takeover of a gold-mining company. Investment firm Asiasons said market rumours - which it dismissed as false - had swirled about MAS investigators visiting its office. MAS, which as a rule does not comment on investigations, could not be reached for confirmation. Asiasons and Blumont also noted that their shares had been placed under restrictions by broking house UOB Kay Hian. Boilerplate responses about not being aware of any undisclosed information were given by ISR, an investment firm formerly known as Asiasons WFG, and by ISDN, an engineering company, and Innopac, an investment and telecommunications services company. Common threads Traders said they were not surprised by yesterday's collapse and queries, noting that those companies had, in the last few months, all seen extraordinary stock appreciations that did not seem justified by fundamentals. Before yesterday's collapse, the prices of five of the six queried stocks had grown multiple times over the past year - from double in the case of Innopac and ISR, to more than 20 times in the case of Blumont LionGold's non-trivial 40 per cent price increase was modest by those standards. These stocks were also among the most queried by SGX this year. One trader noted that the companies were linked by their shareholders and directors. For example, Blumont and Innopac have a common shareholder in listed Ipco International. Ipco's company secretary Lynne Ng Su Ling is also non-executive independent director at LionGold and Blumont. LionGold non-executive director Mohamad Wira Dani Bin Abdul Daim is also executive chairman of ISR, which used to be the broking unit of Asiasons. Caught in limbo The extent of Friday's unusual action stranded numerous investors, especially those with unsettled contra positions on the suspended stocks, traders said. The Business Times understands that UOB Kay Hian, the largest stockbroking firm here, had on Sept 26 restricted the online trading of 14 stocks and covered warrants, which included some of those stocks suspended by SGX. The fear now is that broking houses which had not put curbs on the affected stocks could face sizeable defaults if clients cannot or refuse to pay for their stock purchases. These losses could end up on stockbrokers' laps. Retail investors are expected to be more exposed than institutional players, many of which could not trade in those stocks because they were only until recently still penny stocks, one trader said. An exception is LionGold, just one of a couple of gold-mining plays here and which has recently garnered significant investor interest. " Institutional interest is only in LionGold," the trader said. " For the rest, institutions won't be involved ... I guess the institutional players got lucky." Old and new The rarity of SGX's action evoked memories of the 1985 Pan-Electric Industries crisis, in which several stocks were suspended by the regulator before the exchange had to be shut down. Market observers generally welcomed SGX taking a closer look at the affected stocks. Kelly Teoh, a strategist at IG Markets in Singapore, said: " The concern is that short sellers are taking advantage of the weak market sentiment. It is a good thing that SGX shows it's on top of everything. It is in the market interest to have some sort of a policing environment." SGX's initial query of Blumont this week, which had been more detailed than usual, also drew praise. A retail investor said: " It was a pleasant change to see SGX come out strongly to question listed companies whose shares had suddenly surged on high volumes, well exceeding a billion shares in a day, and prices more than doubling in a day for no other reason than announcements of MOUs, which in some cases can be aborted soon after the shares have surged." But some market observers say that SGX may have moved in a bit late, given that the affected stocks have been rallying for months and that concerns about the fundamentals of some of those companies had existed for years. One trader said: " These penny stocks, with no fundamentals to speak of, are easily manipulated with various kinds of announcements. Some of them, just a few cents several months ago, are now trading at such lofty prices. The SGX should have queried them earlier." The question remains how long the stocks will be suspended, and how open positions will be settled. One remisier said SGX could follow the precedent set in the Links Island Holdings case in 2001, when a settlement committee set a fair-settlement price to settle outstanding trades while a suspension was in force |
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Bigmama
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05-Oct-2013 14:58
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They are a management that can run a 20-30 million company.
But when it became 5 - 6 billion market value, it is a different ball game. You can't have a 70 stories building on wooden stilts. It is going to collapse sooner or later. Wonder why no one in the management see this.... Still happy happily party .. |
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teeth53
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05-Oct-2013 14:47
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Sounded like, some head is going to roll....????.  5 billions mkt lost. | ||||
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teeth53
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05-Oct-2013 14:45
Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life " |
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She too may be ask...for some info on inside news.
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teeth53
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05-Oct-2013 14:43
Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life " |
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Edward oredi hit headline news by selling 73 million shr...so not to late for her.
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Bigmama
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05-Oct-2013 13:59
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Holding for now but will sell at 3 and above.
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LimKoPi
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05-Oct-2013 13:57
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Anyone got news of excellent empire for this year? Internet only has last 2 years result.
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handongni
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05-Oct-2013 13:44
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best don't touch Ipco and the like for the time being. | ||||
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rentay
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05-Oct-2013 13:36
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Big mama, r u still optimistic about ipco ? R u thinking of selling or accumulating or holding it . ? I think most investors will be very wavy and pessimistic of ipco after the recent incident. I am still thinking of whether to sell ipco next week.
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hmphie
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05-Oct-2013 13:31
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Ipco company Secretary ng Su ling was mentioned in business times today for being involved in Blumont as well. She also sold 1 million Blumont shares on 2 oct at average px of $2.38. So zhun zhun. | ||||
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Tomique
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05-Oct-2013 13:25
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Agreed with you nqing87!  It remains to be seen how serious the matter could become.   Just watch whether the suspension of the 3 counters gets lifted or continues.   Quite serious if it continues for more than 3 days.
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nqing87
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05-Oct-2013 13:14
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i think the investigation will take quite some time if there is something wrong.. the longer they suspended, i think likelihood of something shady is bigger.. if nothing is wrong clear cut, think blumont & the suspended buddies probably resume trading soon.. | ||||
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Bigmama
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05-Oct-2013 13:03
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So the big question is one month later..... What is the price of IPCO?
SUSP ? 2 cents? 2.5 cents? 2.8 cents? 3 cents? 3.2 cents? 3.5 cents? 4 cents? |
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Tomique
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05-Oct-2013 12:47
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Hi, I would say that only investigators can prove wrong doings if all the transactions between the " linked" companies are in paper form without real money being exchanged via banks/cleared cheques/bankers' guarantees, proof of funds or financial instruments.   If no physical exchanges of large sum of money are involved in the trade, then goosh it would be bad and could amount to illegal or wrong doings. Hope time will tell.  |
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blackcode
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05-Oct-2013 12:15
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  another word for director is also called scrap goat, 
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gohuatah
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05-Oct-2013 11:58
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The directors are not stupid...anyone will know if the fraud submerged most of them will be in deep trouble and what is the point having so much money...
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handongni
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05-Oct-2013 11:53
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if the investigation reveal Ipco has played an important illegal role in Blumont, LionGold case etc, then ... | ||||
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gohuatah
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05-Oct-2013 11:49
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Wont be 2.1 or 2.2 counter i can easily bet...Dont forget their fundamantals and may be it will retreat to 2.5 or 2.6 and will bounce back if the market sentiment improve...   Not too high to 5 cents but will be able to climb back to around 3cents easily...have been closely watch this counter fir a long time...not a good timing to play contra and long this counter and it will bear fruits...slow n steady
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