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dvdtsk
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29-Oct-2007 12:30
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Bengster68, execellent evaluation of stock... Are we there in getting the CE mark??? |
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bengster68
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29-Oct-2007 12:02
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Hi almostthere, we share the same sentiments. Stay vested in this undiscovered gem. Every dog will have its day. Only BIG has the best DES performance. No one else has it and we are talking about medical products here. |
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almostthere
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29-Oct-2007 11:45
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Hello Bengster68, First time in any forum for me but I have been reading and appreciating the commentary, knowledge and insights that you so kindly share with us. I have been a pre-IPO investor and am still holding to my portfolio in Biosensor. I concur and support all that you have said. In any portfolio, there is always a spread of risk management. I believe investors in Biosensor should view their investment in the 'strategic' basket. Do not mind the detractors and I continue to welcome your sharing. Afterall, we all have a choice. My choice is similar to yours. One of the other forum member suggested that when we all made our $$$, you will find time to celebrate together. Thanks again as I continue to build on this counter. |
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bengster68
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29-Oct-2007 11:21
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I will buy and hold this grossly undervalued stock. Previous poor stock price performance does not mean anything for forecasting future stock performance and vice versa. When investors finally realise BIG is really a hidden gem, the share price will perform. I look and study at the company itself and the industry players. I believe in 2010 BIG will a global DES powerhouse with earnings easily in excess of US$100m and a blue chip in SGX. BIG could be dual listed in NASDAQ and China JWMS listing at Shanghai/HKSE/NASDAQ soon. You can try your luck at other kelong pennies like Jade or Dr Anthony Soh related kelong counters. We have different investment criteria and strategy. I have full confidence BIG will be the darkest horse around. I will not be easily wavered as i have done all my investment homework properly. Lets wait until 2010 to see the results (provided if BIG is not bought up by stent rivals). This stock will be a multi-bagger winner. No doubt about it. | ||||||||||
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787180
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29-Oct-2007 11:06
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It will go up to 73-74..next few days after FED's rate cut drop back again....never fall in love with a stock..it only enables U to make $$$ that's all | ||||||||||
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poppy_toyz
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29-Oct-2007 10:19
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yup....well said.... but did you guys see today's trading volume in Biosensor? I reckon somebody is slowly but surely collecting Biosensor share big time. |
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dcang84
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29-Oct-2007 10:03
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< Biosensor is a dead,ol horse..no point flogging it..can't move...may drop further each time mkt corrects but if mkt soars it remains unchanged or move 1 step forward and 3 steps backward.Don't fall in love with the counter..we only love it if it can enable us to make $$$,Bro bengster..actually I pity U still adamant hanging on to it..imagine the opportunity costs...just out of cuiosity..do U get the bulk of yr shares thru pte placement prior to listing..I respect U for yr insights and knowledge of Biosensor...the problem is co is fraught with too many regulatory controls and approvals..plus the huge R&D may go to waste or not bear fruit..co has to amortise away as expense..no offence meant to antagonise anybody vested but can it's time to move off to a co that can make better returns with yr $$$ > Good point. Don't let your heart rule your investments. |
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787180
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28-Oct-2007 23:51
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Biosensor is a dead,ol horse..no point flogging it..can't move...may drop further each time mkt corrects but if mkt soars it remains unchanged or move 1 step forward and 3 steps backward.Don't fall in love with the counter..we only love it if it can enable us to make $$$,Bro bengster..actually I pity U still adamant hanging on to it..imagine the opportunity costs...just out of cuiosity..do U get the bulk of yr shares thru pte placement prior to listing..I respect U for yr insights and knowledge of Biosensor...the problem is co is fraught with too many regulatory controls and approvals..plus the huge R&D may go to waste or not bear fruit..co has to amortise away as expense..no offence meant to antagonise anybody vested but can it's time to move off to a co that can make better returns with yr $$$ | ||||||||||
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tiptop123
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28-Oct-2007 22:55
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This article on "Taking the pulse of the stent market" was published last year, 16 Oct 2006. If we look back, nobody would have expected Biosensors and its licensee, Xtent, share prices to have performed so badly a year later. |
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tingtang5
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28-Oct-2007 20:35
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ROI25per
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28-Oct-2007 14:39
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well said. | ||||||||||
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bengster68
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28-Oct-2007 14:25
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BIG's business strategy has been to go solo and do it themselves and not depend on takeover to realise their dream (which i feel should be the righty way). Never depend others to realise your dreams. BIG has the resources to do it themselves. We have US$70m cash in bank right now and Axxion DES has been the testing bed for eventual launch for our flagship Biomatrix DES. If more funds are needed to realise our ambition, BIG can raise more $ via dual listing in NASDAQ. Delay in product commercialisation will reduce the product useful life with competitors coming up with something new and better. But there are other so called "revolutionary stents" but their technology is questionable and rather "iffy". Wait until they can have proven superiority clinical trials against other DES then we talk. Many "revolutionary" technology were highlighted to raise money from investors but less than 1% of them will eventually make the cut to produce world class clinical results. BIG is one of the 1% that make the cut to have potential to become world class. Most of these "revolutionary discoveries" eventually flop and all the investor's money gone down the drain. Bare metal stents (BMS) has been in use since the 1980s but hey people are still using them now (20 year old technology). With blood clot problems of first generation DES, BMS is back in vogue again and sales are actually rising! BIG has Biomatrix-Freedom (polymer free) and fully bioabsorbable DES in the pipe-line. BIG is visionary and will not be a one hit wonder. BIG is clearly on the way to become a global DES powerhouse. |
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ROI25per
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27-Oct-2007 21:59
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will this stent's tenchnology be obsolette; there may be other wonderful products... | ||||||||||
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garfgarf
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27-Oct-2007 20:53
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Agree with bengster's view of Biosensors' potential. However, the question is whether Biosensors will be able to realise its full potential if JNJ or other potential takeover party refuses to offer a higher price. If so, Biosensors may not have the resources to market its product in a BIG way. |
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bengster68
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27-Oct-2007 15:45
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This is a VC stock and i recommend you come back 2 years later (provided BIG don't get bought up by stent rivals) instead of one month later. VCs don't put in their money and every month come and check company's valuation. BIG's top class and proven stent technology comparing with other global DESs and BIG's potential as a major global DES player should be what investors are looking at when buying into BIG. You can check what the 3 VC funds say when they invested US$45m into BIG via convertible loan stock (conversion rate at $1.05 per share). If you want quick returns, i suggest you try other stocks instead of BIG. | ||||||||||
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bengster68
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27-Oct-2007 15:28
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Many retail investors still think BIG is a concept stock with no earnings. I feel BIG is not like a dot.com company on internet craze days with no outlook for future earnings or kelong penny stock controlled by local zhengkay. BIG is in a high barrier of entry industry, DES is very lucrative business and there is real huge global demand for BIG's products. DES is the most successful (in terms of sales) medical product invention in the history of medical product devices and this is a fact. We have seen how Boston Scientific became a US$50B company market cap in 2004 by just selling DES. Mind you Boston's Taxus is the worst DES and they licenced their stent technology from Angiotech (have to pay Angiotech royalties). BIG's market cap now is only US$0.5B. BIG has proven best DES clinical trial performance and owns all proprietary drug and biodegredable polymer technology with well guarded IP and patents. No need to pay royalties to other parties. BIG is currently still at pre-earnings stage but the future earnings potential is very huge and expotential. I estimate DES market in year 2010 will go back to US$5B a year. Biomatrix's FDA approval expected on somewhere Q2 of 2009. Biomatrix is the best performing DES so far and i believe in year 2010 BIG can capture 10% of global DES market easily. That translate to sales of US$500m. We give a net profit margin of 20% of gross sales which means net profit of around US$100m. China JWMS should be making about US$50m for the year 2010 and our 50% share gives us US$25m attributable net profit. Plus, we have also milestone/royalty payments from our licensee Terumo, Devax, Xtent (which will be a significant amount) but i will not include in for net profit calculation as i assume income streams from them will be offseted for clinical trials and R&D. So, US$125m in 2010 times at least 30 PE (being high growth company) should give us US$3.75B market cap in 2010. BIG will become an SGX blue chip in 2010 if takeover doesn't happen. Maybe that is why BIG's management is confident of achieving this target and rejecting JNJ previous offers which seem very attractive. When you buy into pre-earnings company, the risk involved is always higher. That is why i have been saying many times investors should buy BIG only when they believe BIG has the best global DES technology and will become a main DES player globally. I think the chances are pretty high judging from the results of all the clinical trials comparing with other main DES players. BIG is will eventually be a winner. You can wait until BIG start showing serious huge profit in 2010 but by then the share price would be around $5 per share. So now you know why BIG's major shareholders has rejected JNJ's very attractive offers. Anything below $3 will not interest BIG's key shareholders at this present moment. | ||||||||||
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dcang84
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27-Oct-2007 13:00
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Bengster68, I dun share your optimism but I like the way you convince others with your arguments and assumptions. From a retail investor's point of view, the cost and risk of holding on to this counter increases with each passing day. Couple that with the opportunity cost and the figure escalates. When I come back to this forum in a month's time, it will probably be much of the same-one step forward and two steps back. For those who are vested, I honestly hope I'm wrong. |
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bengster68
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27-Oct-2007 00:02
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That CIMB guy very anti-BIG. The market's perception now is BIG's share price now hinges on CE as the main focal point. If BIG don't get it approved, now matter how well they do at clinical trials and how good JW really is, the share price will not move much as too much media/investor focus was put on CE approval. It is a matter of time (of course time is of important essence) CE will be approved. CE / IDE delay and poor investor relation aside, this company has done very well. JW will be one of BIG's prized asset and i think it is a very good and smart acquisition. There are a lot of things happening now in China and the full benefit of JW's acquisition to BIG will be seen next year. I said before BIG's 50% JW is actually worth US$375m. If events happening in China turns out very favourable, we can see JW's value at least double up. This is the real potential of JW. We will see full potential of JW when things start to slowly unravel next year. | ||||||||||
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swissvic
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26-Oct-2007 17:07
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Bengster68 please pass your information to two company covering biosensor CLMB-GK RESEARCH PTE LTD KHOO CHEN HSUNG email chenhsung.khoo@cimb.com tel 6210 8685 CLSA ZHENGJIE ZHUO email zhengjie.zhuo@clsa.com tel 64167812 so that they can write out reports |
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bengster68
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26-Oct-2007 14:20
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dcang84, you better sell your BIG shares now. If you don't own any BIG shares, don't ever buy them. There are many top volume pennies you may want to consider. | ||||||||||
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