Latest Forum Topics / Others | Post Reply |
Stocks Correction Mid September to Early October
|
||||||||||||
risktaker
Supreme |
02-Oct-2009 08:20
Yells: "Sometimes you think you know, but in fact you dont" |
|||||||||||
x 0
x 4 Alert Admin |
Fundamentals and Contract wins will be thrown out of window for this sell down. Those without fundamentals and only pure speculations and price is rather high = Good meat for BB to short it down. Caution Caution |
|||||||||||
Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | ||||||||||||
risktaker
Supreme |
02-Oct-2009 07:40
Yells: "Sometimes you think you know, but in fact you dont" |
|||||||||||
x 0
x 5 Alert Admin |
I have been asking people to observe/Monitor the market :) As the storm approaches, how bad i donno current my estimates will be 2400-2500 range, if BB over-react it could be deadly we might see 2200.
|
|||||||||||
Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | ||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||
kellychang
Master |
02-Oct-2009 07:34
|
|||||||||||
x 0
x 4 Alert Admin |
hi risktaker... well....u dun always post bearish thread...people will rate us bad post.... i noticed that.... well...since u guys so like bull... ok, this time, i say all cheong up...sti cheong to 3000....but i say say only ohh.... think is impossible....ahahahaha |
|||||||||||
Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | ||||||||||||
risktaker
Supreme |
02-Oct-2009 07:33
Yells: "Sometimes you think you know, but in fact you dont" |
|||||||||||
x 0
x 4 Alert Admin |
欺山莫欺水,欺人莫欺心。Wake up people before its too late. |
|||||||||||
Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | ||||||||||||
risktaker
Supreme |
01-Oct-2009 23:11
Yells: "Sometimes you think you know, but in fact you dont" |
|||||||||||
x 2
x 3 Alert Admin |
good luck guys - Trade with Caution tomorrow (Friday effect T.T and Extreme bad market sentiments) |
|||||||||||
Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | ||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||
richtan
Supreme |
01-Oct-2009 12:05
|
|||||||||||
x 0
x 0 Alert Admin |
Fed Promises Easy Money for an Extended PeriodEvery few weeks the world’s most powerful and influential central bankers — those in charge of the world’s number one reserve currency, the U.S. dollar — come together in what’s called the Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC). They discuss the economy, interest rates, financial markets and whatever else they deem important. Then they decide to set the Federal Funds Rate at a level they think is appropriate. And last week was their week. So today I want to analyze what their decisions mean for the stock market and for you as an investor. The Fed Statement Reassures A Very Lax Monetary Policy … After each FOMC meeting, the Fed releases a statement. And the one for September 23, 2009, is very telling in my opinion. Here’s its most important part:
As you can see, the Fed is promising a continuation of its extremely lax monetary policy “for an extended period.” So all the recent media talk about a soon-to-begin exit strategy or a normalization of monetary policy was obviously premature. The Fed is reassuring us that there will be easy money for as far as the eye can see. Why? Two reasons come to mind: First, the Fed is still very concerned about the economy … the employment situation is dire … and a double-dip recession is a real possibility Second, and more important, is that they know how precarious the banking situation still is. They know that the bad debt problems have not been solved … that most banks would go bankrupt if they had to implement mark-to-market rules … and that the banking system is still on life support. This Is Important News For the Stock Market Since the Fed is confronted with two major problems — a shaky economy and an unstable banking system — it’s not worrying about a possible stock market bubble in the making. Why is this so important? Just look at the charts below. The stock market has rallied some 60 percent since the March low. But earnings are still very depressed. Hence the classic version of the P/E ratio — using twelve months trailing GAAP earnings — shot to the stratosphere!
Source: www.decisionpoint.com
Right now I can’t rule out either one. I do, however, lean towards the first. And in reading the Fed’s FOMC statement one thing becomes obvious: If we’re on our way to a new stock market bubble the Fed will not prick it any time soon. The September 23 statement that I cited earlier is as clear as you can expect from the Fed. Much clearer than anything Greenspan said during his long reign. His famous “irrational exuberance” speech, which was never followed by any action, is a perfect example. Bernanke is much different … From the very beginning of his career at the Fed he made it known that he’s a first class inflationist, and he strongly believes prosperity can be achieved by printing money. Now the Bernanke Fed is clearly reiterating this inflationary stance. By doing so the Fed is rubberstamping the current stock market rally and apparently not worrying about a possible bubble! There is an old Wall Street saying: “Don’t fight the Fed.” I think it’s wise to heed it in today’s environment. Best wishes, Claus
|
|||||||||||
Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | ||||||||||||
richtan
Supreme |
01-Oct-2009 12:03
|
|||||||||||
x 0
x 0 Alert Admin |
|
|||||||||||
Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | ||||||||||||
kellychang
Master |
01-Oct-2009 11:44
|
|||||||||||
x 0
x 1 Alert Admin |
yes...so i think now sti is overbought stage... but next year, i dunno... anyway, i am still pessimistic on it...
|
|||||||||||
Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | ||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||
hoon88
Member |
01-Oct-2009 11:42
|
|||||||||||
x 0
x 0 Alert Admin |
hello kellychang, I'm just a newbie in the investment arena. However I'd like to respond to your question about the negative GDP and bullish index. Answer 1: The stock market has run away from the real economy. It does not reflect the still weak economic climate. People seem to be buying based on hope, not concrete indicators. Answer 2: The stock market may be a precursor to the improving economy in the coming months. My view is that it may be a combination of the two answers above. I'm a bit apprehensive about how much the STI has run up since March 09 and think that a 10-15% correction may be forthcoming soon. And that'll be the a good time to buy as we're entering the next bull market. Just sharing my thoughts... |
|||||||||||
Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | ||||||||||||
kellychang
Master |
01-Oct-2009 11:04
|
|||||||||||
x 0
x 0 Alert Admin |
haha...kidding...well...i came here also just wish to share share... but when u guys so bullish that moment...then , i say so much i also useless... now i just wish to share....do u think SG current economic with GDP-4-5% then can have a index 3000? i am quite doubt about it... well, same scenario apply to US... please dun shoot me again ohh...i scared... i am just share share what i thinking...
|
|||||||||||
Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | ||||||||||||
AK_Francis
Supreme |
01-Oct-2009 10:59
Yells: "Happy go lucky, cheers." |
|||||||||||
x 0
x 0 Alert Admin |
Ha ha, AK sincer apology, wat I meant, if one uncertain, dun throw out money for anything, safe n steady plus own judgement still d best, as wat 2Y for, as u d love one will live well without hassle. Cheers again.
|
|||||||||||
Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | ||||||||||||
kellychang
Master |
01-Oct-2009 10:53
|
|||||||||||
x 0
x 0 Alert Admin |
well... just a bit funny... Last 2 weeks, i said STI 2200 then u guys say i siao, said i bull shit... Now i said again STI2200, u guys think i good thinking...hahaha.. ok well, i am just think ...think only... government will soon take out those money injected in market, the question is only when.... if economic if able to sustain even if government take out the money injected.....then well...we can have a real bulll run... but now...i dunno.... but now, i dunno...hope ben and us will not do silly things again... dun print so much money again just to booest the economic... else, u will see sg HDB cost us 1million....hahahahah
|
|||||||||||
Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | ||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||
alyl21
Member |
01-Oct-2009 10:10
|
|||||||||||
x 0
x 0 Alert Admin |
correction provides a good chance to enter the market at a cushioned price especially for those going in long term. Well known fact that (unless you're a bright trader), frequent trades may not beat buy hold for ETF. STI ETF shot up quite a bit over last few months. Even as people argue that the return to normalacy happened too fast, investors should prevent short sighted actions like shorting the market. My sense is we can use time to our advantage and tough it out. On the hold, one should earn a reasonable 7% a year on the average. Having said that, I agree that the technicals look very weak. (herdish behaviour) |
|||||||||||
Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | ||||||||||||
AK_Francis
Supreme |
01-Oct-2009 10:10
Yells: "Happy go lucky, cheers." |
|||||||||||
x 0
x 0 Alert Admin |
Good thinking, as what most of analysts does. Not worrying of 10 thousands, but just in case, a Chinese wise-saying. In d darkess mth, 9 Mar ds yr, STI lowest marked 1456.95. But by end Mar, it climbed 300pts. Wah, tempting leh, but dare not to do anything. Amazing, by early Apr, still see no down divergence, then shee swah loh, started picking up finance n ppty in NYSE and China Banks in HSI. For STI, as both AK pockets kena pocked badly during d credit crunch, not much bullet left to support d then more expensive stocks. But picking up some penny with slight potential one. Now, thinking over, its a near miss, should then STI going back to 1500, after acq all d stocks, a second tragedy, really big wok loh. Yes, d current global economy is still gloomy. Henceforth, be vigilant for any trading or invesment loh. As wat sifus always advocate, applying 2Y will never be wrong one. Cheers. PS. An advance greeting for d coming Moon Cake Festival to all. However, sharing d moon cake with those needy one ard not a bad idea as well.
|
|||||||||||
Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | ||||||||||||
tanzq83
Member |
01-Oct-2009 10:03
|
|||||||||||
x 0
x 0 Alert Admin |
chill.. i set up the particular thread not just for you, so dont take it too personal :). too much speculations at that time without reasons, people just hitting ridiculous numbers that any children can also hit brainlessly. a lot of things happened in the market recently and it kind of signals that it's time to pull back quite a bit in the next 1-2months. I dont think another rally will come in for the 3rd quarter financial reports (just as we see during march and july, because people are factoring all the stimulus and optimism in the current market), if in the event that the companies fail to meet their forecast, then likely a major pull-back for the counter will come, if the companies just meet their forecast ~ i dont see much hike in the shareprice (because it's expected from there). i also feel that china market (SSE) also gave some indications to what will happen in the next few months (and the investor sentiments). Surprisely, the SSE had down quite a bit to 2700region after edging above 3000pts last few weeks. The index had being pretty flat even with the influx of IPO ~ interest seems to wane off and I think this is a point to indicate that investors may be very cautious now as they pull back to look for indicators for global improvements. personal opinion: hands off the market now if possible, correction around the corner in ~ 1-2months time. going to be more volatile, sentiment biased towards market downside. my 2-cent worth.. :)
|
|||||||||||
Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | ||||||||||||
vostro69
Member |
01-Oct-2009 09:54
|
|||||||||||
x 0
x 0 Alert Admin |
An interesting article from 'The Edge Singapore' to share: REALITY CHECK AHEAD The unwinding of trading positions in some penny stocks may have an adverse affect on the market, with stocks, including quality names, coming under some selling pressure. While selling pressure has been relatively mild the most part of the past two months, this could pick up temporarily. “We have mentioned ….. the possibility of some short term STI downside. As equity investors turn more cautious, we can expect loans to segments such as financial institutions and share financing to be affected,” DMG states in a report today. In the financial sector in August, loans rose 2.5% year-on-year, but only 1% month-on-month, led by share financing which was up 20.4% month-on-month. DMG is expecting loan growth to be lacklustre for the next few quarters due to the more cautious stance adopted by equity investors. A symptom of the softer market was Wilmar International’s reluctance to list its Chinese operations in Hong Kong next week. According to a Thomson Reuters report, UBS said the Singapore-listed, Indonesian-based palm oil producer may delay its plan to list its China operation in Hong Kong because of market instability. The Chinese operation is involved in oilseed crushing, edible oil refining and the production of edible oils, feed meal, oleochemicals and specialty fats in China. It is expected to be the largest Hong Kong IPO year-to-date at about US$3 billion ($4.2 billion) to US$4 billion. Wilmar lost 19 cents today in a negative reaction to the news. Investors and speculators had driven the stock up from $3.40 to a level just shy of $7 since Apr-May this year, in anticipation of a China or Hong Kong listing. An official announcement from the company said: “Wilmar China is assessing market conditions and other considerations relevant to the evaluation of its Hong Kong IPO. The actual timing of its IPO will be dependent on conditions which are deemed to be in the best interest of the company.” IPOs in North Asia have had a fairly frosty reception in recent weeks. China Vanadium Titano-Magnetite Mining has priced its IPO at just above the mid-point of the offering range at HK$3.50 (64 cents) for a total deal size of HK$2.06 billion. The shares were offered in a range between HK$3.12 and HK$3.86. New IPO Peak Sport Products dropped 17% on its first day of trading yesterday and Metallurgical Corp of China’s H shares fell 11.7% in their debut last Thursday. Its share price is currently 16.2% below the IPO price. In the US, Chinese online gaming company Shanda Games lost 14% when it started trading last Friday. Technically, Wilmar’s stock performance could be causing the chart pattern to produce a top formation. The breakdown level is $6.30, and the stock ended trading at $6.32 today, a shade above the 50-day moving average at $6.28. A breakdown appears almost inevitable, and such a move indicates a downside of $5.60. Chart Watch: Property stocks look weak technically It isn’t just Wilmar that is threatening to break down, but property stocks as well. Counters like Oversea-Chinese Banking Corporation and Keppel Corp are barely hanging on to their supports. For instance, Allgreen Properties has broken below its 50-day moving average, and is barely holding on to the neckline of a top formation at $1.11. Allgreen stock last traded at $1.13 and this week could be make or break for it. If it’s a break, then the downside is 90 cents. Elsewhere, City Developments is grabbing at its 50-day moving average at $10.13. Its share price traded at $10.31 today, and the breakdown level is at $10.00. Since technicals look precarious, it’s probably time for a reality check following the almost euphoric mood of the past month. At a time like this, it would be prudent for traders to close out positions. Long-term investors would probably still be best served sitting and waiting for the final wave. |
|||||||||||
Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | ||||||||||||
risktaker
Supreme |
01-Oct-2009 07:37
Yells: "Sometimes you think you know, but in fact you dont" |
|||||||||||
x 0
x 2 Alert Admin |
Zhuge Liang and me have our own reasons. But its against the Heaven if we reveal :) So Good luck
|
|||||||||||
Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | ||||||||||||
kellychang
Master |
01-Oct-2009 07:35
|
|||||||||||
x 0
x 0 Alert Admin |
ok well... i will enter if STI 2300 .....think still can enjoy a mini bull run... hmm, but next year, after mid 2010...tthen i dunno.... well, i am quite pessmistic on economic situation.....
|
|||||||||||
Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | ||||||||||||
risktaker
Supreme |
01-Oct-2009 07:31
Yells: "Sometimes you think you know, but in fact you dont" |
|||||||||||
x 0
x 1 Alert Admin |
I trust Zhuge Liang :)
|
|||||||||||
Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | ||||||||||||
CWQuah
Master |
01-Oct-2009 01:19
|
|||||||||||
x 1
x 0 Alert Admin |
Risktaker, Don't bother to predict. Not many ppl can secondguess the market correctly. And secondguessing wrongly can be very painful. Just plan for both up and down scenarios - mark out your technical charts diligently, or review the fundamentals of your stocks objectively. And once you have a trading/investment plan, ACT UPON THE PLAN. And make sure stoploss always in place. Don't even assume certain previous market norms/behaviours will persist. See what mkt does, then act. Don't act just because so-and-so month is traditionally bad for mkt, etc. All these persistence of beliefs can cloud judgment. |
|||||||||||
Useful To Me Not Useful To Me |