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alamakmummy
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18-Dec-2007 18:00
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NickyNg, How I wished it was me making that 1k. Very "Malu" to say I've lost $1700 yestday contra due for Koh Bros. and my other holdings are STUCK!! STUCK!! So sad  I am very lousy at trading. Really must eat grass for Christmas this time 
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DnApeh
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18-Dec-2007 17:05
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"made" $210 by calling 2 banks to cancel credit cards cos of annual fees. Both agreed to waive!! |
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Manikamaniko.
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18-Dec-2007 16:56
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NickyNg... :) Nice work!... 
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nickyng
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18-Dec-2007 16:54
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ok take stocks....how much hv u guys made so far ?? net profit <1k for me today...hee |
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Manikamaniko.
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18-Dec-2007 16:43
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Elfin... :) Good to see you post very wise words again... By the way, your words in that 'meaty, juicy' post of yours the other day still reverberate pleasantly in my mind... .
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elfinchilde
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18-Dec-2007 16:28
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*bemused* hey farmer, it's ok. in the market, one of the most impt thing to do is to cut out the white noise. trade whichever way works, according to your own personality. that's all, really. if you talk about books and systems, there are thousands out there, and all will claim to be better than the rest (rem what i said about singaporeanness of onesupmanship... :P) but really. just keep open-minded, and slowly develop one's own style. that's all. if feel the need to change, then adapt accordingly. that's evolution. :) o/w, we are all entitled to our own opinions. or as Voltaire says, "I may not agree with what you say, but I shall defend to my death your right to say it!" cheers. :) |
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Manikamaniko.
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18-Dec-2007 14:57
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Here's a treat for traders' self development... "Trader Brian" (click to see)...
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Manikamaniko.
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18-Dec-2007 14:41
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Lausk22... :) wo de peng you... good to see you here... xie xie nide hao yi... (thanks for the thought)... When I judge something to be really good, it would be so sad for others not to agree with me... What more can I say?... I will always be loyal to the Genie, who use to grant us the goodies...
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lausk22
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18-Dec-2007 14:09
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Mr Mani, As your laupengyou, I don't think you mind me saying this. This time around, you have been too obsessive or overzealous in your missionary zeal. By doing so, you are doing injustice to yourself and make yourself a bore to others. Actually, you can a be very interesting and insighful old chap minus the incessant sales pitch..
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cashiertan
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18-Dec-2007 13:59
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before u become missionary to a cult call genie, i highly recommend u to read and compare other trading ebooks 1st. i understand u are trying to make some $ recommending genie, however u need to recommend really good one which i think genie is not. i like to ask, have u got the Trade Secret vids areadi? since u made so much le, i think u should have it areadi or going to buy real soon. no point telling us to buy when u dun own them correct? it will be so hypocritical if u tell others to buy what u dun have or yet to buy to profit from it. so MLM.... sori if i offended u but if u are not going to do things rightly, i will have to stop u |
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Manikamaniko.
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18-Dec-2007 13:54
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Cashier has said before that I am a "missionary" for the "Genie Tutorials"... hehehe... :) So I am happy to spread the 'gospel' of the Genie... As for how one can benefit from the tutorials, the answer is all in the tutorials themselves... If one treats and follows the teachings religiously, at least one would not (impossible) to end up being devastated or wiped out in a lifetime... And often, to be wiped out once means the end of one's future in the stockmarket... there's no second chance due to unrecoverable losses. |
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remisier
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18-Dec-2007 13:36
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Mani, some would be glad you recommended the stuff but soon in turns to be full of suspicion as you keeps promoting the stuffs. Does it really good? Maybe you can tell us how you trade and how you profit with that strategy? |
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Manikamaniko.
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18-Dec-2007 13:36
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Perhaps the recommendations should be confined within the "TRAINING" thread only...
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Manikamaniko.
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18-Dec-2007 13:33
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Looking at the positive (bright and with wonderment) side of things, isn't it simply wonderful that such a product like the "Genie Tutorials" is available in this world (of the stock market)? We know many people are time and again devastated by big losses when dabbling in shares. These tutorials do truly help prevent this from happening by teaching those ignorant about the true nature of the stock market (ie. it is a speculative medium). If webmaster would bar such goodies from being introduced/promoted to stock market enthusiasts here, then so be it. The benefits (esp. 'the Genie') would be then be lost ...cheers... (Regarding why the authors won't use the stock market to make themselves fabulously and filthily rich, I can answer that the stock market is a place to make money, and not, repeat not, to gamble and grow rich). |
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Farmer
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18-Dec-2007 13:15
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I've been on the sideline of these so call "training" discussions that has been going on for quite some times since. The 2 main players are Mani and Cashier whom seems to seize on every opportunities available to promote the "goodies" to anyone who's interested or isn't like a professional salesman rather than a suppose trader. Sorry, I'm not trying to interfere or something but this has been going on for far too long already but the Admin doesn't seems to bother about that which I feel is against the house rules right? Maybe I'm wrong, as rules can be change anytime to suit one's advantage or situation. My BIG questions is this: If all this "training or genie" are really so good, than why did the writers/promoters still need to take the trouble to write/market/convince people in order to capitalize/profiting from it. Why don't they just keep it to themselves and make lots and lots of $$ without anyone even knowing that they're really v. rich in fact. Are they just doing it not for money but fame or something else which I can't think of? Oh, you must be kidding but pse enlighten the masses! |
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Manikamaniko.
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18-Dec-2007 12:42
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The car driver analogy is very good... and it applies to the manoeuvring and car-handling skills... :) |
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cashiertan
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18-Dec-2007 12:36
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remisier, yah thats is why u didnt see me doing any trade recently as i am a trade trend. current market is volatile. all, basically i have almost all the ebooks from the source which mani recommended as my fren is one of the writers there and he got them for free! thus i roughly know what is good and whats not. i do not wish anyone to buy a book which is not going to benefit much in ur trading. thus to be unbiased, i like to ask anyone who got genie to compared it with stockcharts.com free chart school and post here. Period. no need to argue who is right and who is not. agree? Way of the turtle is the book i recommended in this forum earlier last month or oct. it is a good book but the turtle style requires quite a huge capital to put in practise. as u can see, i dun just recommend, i recommend practical stuff and with a valid reason. For those on budget, u can consider getting Trade Secrets Video System to learn how a full time trader trades step by step guided , and go to read stockcharts.com to read more abt the fundementals and technicals and theory stuffs from the free chart school to boost ur knowledge. Trading is like driving a car, u just need to know when to change gear and which gear to change to, is enough. u dun reallly need to know how a gear works inside the car. |
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Manikamaniko.
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18-Dec-2007 12:16
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Asleep... :) Like I said before, I have for untold years, bought almost every stock market and trading book (hundreds) available on the market... But when I recently came across the "Genie Tutorials", I was immediately impressed by its format, style of presentation and valuable contents which are a superb deal for the average stock market player (who often plays with the skimpiest of knowledge). It is for this group of players that I very excitedly introduce the tutorials to. As sor my own development, I would humbly say that I hardly need the tutorials myself, since in spite of their priceless excellence (which I will always maintain), they are really nothing new to me. I have also actively traded the highly stressful futures markets myself in the pass for many years too... so forex, indices, etc.. are not new to me either... Incidentally, I did mention that the tutorials are also suitable for market veterans who are still losing money, though not for those who are making money though... |
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asleep
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18-Dec-2007 11:42
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I agree that "way of the turtle" is an all time classic. I know you mean well Mani, but you seem to be over zealous about the "Genie tutorials". I am not sure what the content is like, but from what cashier described it, it contains a lot of theories. If you like swing trading and theories, I will recommend you "The master swing trader" by Alan Farley. It has a lot of theories inside and by the time you want to implement everything, you will probably take 1 hour for 1 chart. Assuming that you use some programming language to filter out the stocks you want. It is vague as well and requires you to read between the lines. |
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remisier
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18-Dec-2007 11:41
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cashiertan, yes, 300 pips/lot/month. If I could consistently doing this each month, I can just increase the lot size and tat will be wonderful. You're right I'm more into stocks but I feel, forex provides good opportunity to take profit regardless up/down swing. As for the stock market, you don't always have opportunity to trade. Like now, I don't even look into market as I know, I won't be entering in this type of market. |
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