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ten4one
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13-Mar-2007 08:47
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One more thing to add to the 8-basic-rule : " Never buy in the hope of winning ." If you're buying a 'HOPE', the Stock Market is not for you. It is better you place your bet in 4-D or Toto (small bets of course) - at least you won't be hurt when your hope is dashed. Cheers! |
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Livermore
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13-Mar-2007 07:41
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Hi IPunter, You are right in not being good to win from the start. I bought Creative at $10 and it went all the way to $29. After I sold at $29 it dropped all the way to present level. Things did not go too well after that. I became over confident.*haha* |
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rogue_trader
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13-Mar-2007 00:56
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yo elfin, I great, busying sourcing for things to keep me occupied. Thanks for asking. backtrack a bit, sort of agreed with singaporegal on the "over-diversification" thingie. Too much cooks spoil the soup. |
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jessie
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12-Mar-2007 21:56
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Hi iPunter and I_tan888, I agree with your views/comments too... |
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iPunter
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12-Mar-2007 21:23
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One should benefit from this type of 'opportunity' to learn. The lesson being... It's not good to be winning right from the start... coz the losing part comes later (due mainly to human nature)... |
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l_tan888
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12-Mar-2007 21:21
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Hi Jessie, Yea, but I think he was overcome with greed and easy money. Furthermore, his dad was too foolish to have dump all his savings to him. At least he should have reserve some for his own old age expenses. |
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jessie
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12-Mar-2007 21:15
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Thank you I_tan888 for the great posts. Yes, it is indeed very sad to read about this guy's huge loss. |
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singaporegal
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12-Mar-2007 20:22
Yells: "Female TA nut" |
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good post! Except the rule on diversification... I believe that over-diversification creates mediocre returns. |
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l_tan888
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12-Mar-2007 15:43
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8 basic rules to safeguard your stocks investments (extract from today's Business Times):
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novena_33
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12-Mar-2007 11:12
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Hi Jackjames...be careful on the money u "throw" as what u mention ... | ||||||||
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harryp
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12-Mar-2007 11:06
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This kid must be pretty good and devoted in TA analysis. IMHO every one is affected by this emotion called "greed" otherwise there will be no sufferings and wars in this world. From what I see, I think the problem with this kid is that he doesn't practice risk management. With risk management this emotional greed will be surgically cut out and will not get out of control. To me, risk management is not about how to average up or down or how much one can win. It is about how to survive in the market long term. It is about cutting and controlling one's losses if the trade turns against one. It is about getting out of the market alive and surviving for another day.
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jackjames
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12-Mar-2007 09:39
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I feel very sad reading this news... And true enough, I nearly enter Longcheer too... This counter really kill many people I guess... Anyway, I think greed really drives him crazy.. He should take a break and should not trade so heavily because he just learnt how to trade last year October! Well, this young kid will have bright future, don't worry, now just clear the debt and start from beginning.. lesson learnt, never trade beyond your limits.. Personally, I think "the broker" is the one who put him in such troubles.. how can he loss so much ?? It is way exceed his daily trading limit, isn't it? Anyway, guys, I think the correction is not over yet... just be cool, I still believe stocks can make us "gain" if we trade within our limits ... as I said before, you just close your eyes and throw money into ANY STOCKS last year June, you will make huge profit now.. I think this correction is the same... I think I can say the same thing next year, if we throw money in March 2007, you can earn money.. well, just my thought. |
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novena_33
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12-Mar-2007 08:49
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Hi, for those interested to read the news about the student loosing S$700k, below is an extract from the newpaper: Finally we have some negative new about what stock market can do to us if we not careful, ..... i felt sorry for his family....just not sure if this new comes abit too late..... few weeks back ....the paper still say about how some uni guy make good money.....this sure help to drive up the market.... |
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l_tan888
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12-Mar-2007 08:41
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Hi, for those interested to read the news about the student loosing S$700k, below is an extract from the newpaper:
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ten4one
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12-Mar-2007 05:45
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In life everything is a gamble. The Stock Market is a place to trade - only people with skills (to trade or invest or bet) survive! In the Stock Market my most important rule is : Don't 'bet' or put in your money If You're Not Sure. Having said that doesn't mean it ain't going to be broken as rules are made to be broken anyway. Then, in that sense, I take a gamble! Cheers! |
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elfinchilde
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12-Mar-2007 02:34
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hullo rogue, how're you doing? agree with you abt the trading/betting thing. There'll always be emotion attached, i guess. and haha. no, trading is certainly not easy. The amt of charting and tracking work we gotta do, keeping track of macrotrends, proxy indicators etc, is horrendous. It's basically holding down two full time jobs. yah. first rule of investing. singaporegal said it already. Perhaps just an add on: rules are rules. In investing, you break them at your own peril. Easier said than done tho...for me, I often have to fight against my own greed and impulse just to stick to my rules too. meltdown: actually, a chartist would be able to tell you that a meltdown was going to happen--cf ipunter's comments about sickly markets and divergence weeks ago--the trouble is, when things are rosy, no one wants to believe bad news. It's human impulse. Plus, guess the trouble with charting is that we can tell you a correction's likely to occur, but we cannot give the speed of it. |
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teeth53
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12-Mar-2007 01:22
Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life " |
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There are more 100k subscriber member in SGX traders scheme. | ||||||||
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teeth53
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12-Mar-2007 01:21
Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life " |
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For every one story been told, there are at least another 90 sad losser, as always one out ten, there is oni one winner and nine losses, It is alway stay this way for a long long time liao. How many has the experience of having a bull run for solid one year, then all of a sudden the next thing all know losing more, still remember the year B4 1997 financial great fall. | ||||||||
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rogue_trader
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12-Mar-2007 00:05
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In my opinions, most people will preferred the term "Trading" than "Betting". And it will be especially true when these people made some $$, plus when "Pride" overpower them, then they will go around and say trading is easy and profitability. But it is only true when they are down & under then they realised that they are actually "Betting/Punting" with their "Luck" elements without doing any TA/FA.. But the meltdown actually "caught" a lot of people, rendering any TA/FA useless. | ||||||||
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lausk22
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11-Mar-2007 23:01
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Recently, The New Paper or Sunday Times reported a case of a Uni Student who made $80,000 within as a short time just before the last meltdown. Today, the Newpaper reported he made a loss of $600,000 using his papa's monies during the meltdown. I do not think those regular reports in the Sunday Times at the Invest Section were doing new investors a favour because they always reflected success stories which may delude people into thinking that making monies at the stock market is easy. |
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