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teeth53 Supreme	23-Sep-2013 15:06        teeth53 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Chin kam sia for the elaborated details. Siwomp      ( Date: 23-Sep-2013 14:26) Posted: And as mentioned before last Friday, usualy for consolidation (reverse spilt) the price tends to fall right after the consolidation.  Whether it will go up or not later depends of the percieved potential of the company and of course the BBs. Siwomp      ( Date: 23-Sep-2013 14:15) Posted: 34.55 billion new shares for $774millions, = $0.0224 per new shares Consolidation (or reverse split) 17:1 = $0.0224 x 17 = $0.3808 per share after consolidation Current Mkt Price per share = $0.066, after consolidation $0.066 x 17 = $1.122 so if you buy  at $0.066 and after consolidation price falls below $1.122, you lose. Why the different between the $0.0224 (agreed price between the current and new owners) and the mkt price of $0.066? = Potential Potential: 1) current share owners gets all the capital reduction $ before the issue of new shares 2) 2 additional land parcel under discussion 3) Current 7 parcel of lands are values at > RM2.7billions 4) Potential of significant returns (profits) when the properties are developed. Therefore the mkt estimation of the current potential of the company  is (in a sense) => $0.066 - $0.0224 = $0.0436
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Siwomp Veteran	23-Sep-2013 14:47        Siwomp About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Back to Basic. FA is Sexy"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	It will be interesting to watch. *Smile* Bigmama      ( Date: 23-Sep-2013 14:41) Posted: Totally agree. Thanks. Let's see today closing later. Siwomp      ( Date: 23-Sep-2013 14:36) Posted: Yes, this case may be differnt... much will depends on the BBs. and the Owners.  if they time the consolidations with a big announcement (positive)... share prices can move significantly up
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Bigmama Master	23-Sep-2013 14:41        Bigmama About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Totally agree. Thanks. Let's see today closing later. Siwomp      ( Date: 23-Sep-2013 14:36) Posted: Yes, this case may be differnt... much will depends on the BBs. and the Owners.  if they time the consolidations with a big announcement (positive)... share prices can move significantly up. Bigmama      ( Date: 23-Sep-2013 14:31) Posted: I think that depends on the purpose of the reverse splits..... But usually you are right..... This case maybe different
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Siwomp Veteran	23-Sep-2013 14:36        Siwomp About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Back to Basic. FA is Sexy"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes, this case may be differnt... much will depends on the BBs. and the Owners.  if they time the consolidations with a big announcement (positive)... share prices can move significantly up. Bigmama      ( Date: 23-Sep-2013 14:31) Posted: I think that depends on the purpose of the reverse splits..... But usually you are right..... This case maybe different. Siwomp      ( Date: 23-Sep-2013 14:26) Posted: And as mentioned before last Friday, usualy for consolidation (reverse spilt) the price tends to fall right after the consolidation.  Whether it will go up or not later depends of the percieved potential of the company and of course the BBs
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Siwomp Veteran	23-Sep-2013 14:32        Siwomp About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Back to Basic. FA is Sexy"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	And it seems that looking at the premium paid by the mkt for Albedo, investors are thinking that Rowsley is relatively underpriced. imho Bigmama      ( Date: 23-Sep-2013 14:27) Posted: Agree and thanks for clarifying!. 0.0436 is the premium paid by market for the potential. Siwomp      ( Date: 23-Sep-2013 14:15) Posted: 34.55 billion new shares for $774millions, = $0.0224 per new shares Consolidation (or reverse split) 17:1 = $0.0224 x 17 = $0.3808 per share after consolidation Current Mkt Price per share = $0.066, after consolidation $0.066 x 17 = $1.122 so if you buy  at $0.066 and after consolidation price falls below $1.122, you lose. Why the different between the $0.0224 (agreed price between the current and new owners) and the mkt price of $0.066? = Potential Potential: 1) current share owners gets all the capital reduction $ before the issue of new shares 2) 2 additional land parcel under discussion 3) Current 7 parcel of lands are values at > RM2.7billions 4) Potential of significant returns (profits) when the properties are developed. Therefore the mkt estimation of the current potential of the company  is (in a sense) => $0.066 - $0.0224 = $0.0436
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Bigmama Master	23-Sep-2013 14:31        Bigmama About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I think that depends on the purpose of the reverse splits..... But usually you are right..... This case maybe different. Siwomp      ( Date: 23-Sep-2013 14:26) Posted: And as mentioned before last Friday, usualy for consolidation (reverse spilt) the price tends to fall right after the consolidation.  Whether it will go up or not later depends of the percieved potential of the company and of course the BBs. Siwomp      ( Date: 23-Sep-2013 14:15) Posted: 34.55 billion new shares for $774millions, = $0.0224 per new shares Consolidation (or reverse split) 17:1 = $0.0224 x 17 = $0.3808 per share after consolidation Current Mkt Price per share = $0.066, after consolidation $0.066 x 17 = $1.122 so if you buy  at $0.066 and after consolidation price falls below $1.122, you lose. Why the different between the $0.0224 (agreed price between the current and new owners) and the mkt price of $0.066? = Potential Potential: 1) current share owners gets all the capital reduction $ before the issue of new shares 2) 2 additional land parcel under discussion 3) Current 7 parcel of lands are values at > RM2.7billions 4) Potential of significant returns (profits) when the properties are developed. Therefore the mkt estimation of the current potential of the company  is (in a sense) => $0.066 - $0.0224 = $0.0436
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Bigmama Master	23-Sep-2013 14:27        Bigmama About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Agree and thanks for clarifying!. 0.0436 is the premium paid by market for the potential. Siwomp      ( Date: 23-Sep-2013 14:15) Posted: 34.55 billion new shares for $774millions, = $0.0224 per new shares Consolidation (or reverse split) 17:1 = $0.0224 x 17 = $0.3808 per share after consolidation Current Mkt Price per share = $0.066, after consolidation $0.066 x 17 = $1.122 so if you buy  at $0.066 and after consolidation price falls below $1.122, you lose. Why the different between the $0.0224 (agreed price between the current and new owners) and the mkt price of $0.066? = Potential Potential: 1) current share owners gets all the capital reduction $ before the issue of new shares 2) 2 additional land parcel under discussion 3) Current 7 parcel of lands are values at > RM2.7billions 4) Potential of significant returns (profits) when the properties are developed. Therefore the mkt estimation of the current potential of the company  is (in a sense) => $0.066 - $0.0224 = $0.0436
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Siwomp Veteran	23-Sep-2013 14:26        Siwomp About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Back to Basic. FA is Sexy"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	And as mentioned before last Friday, usualy for consolidation (reverse spilt) the price tends to fall right after the consolidation.  Whether it will go up or not later depends of the percieved potential of the company and of course the BBs. Siwomp      ( Date: 23-Sep-2013 14:15) Posted: 34.55 billion new shares for $774millions, = $0.0224 per new shares Consolidation (or reverse split) 17:1 = $0.0224 x 17 = $0.3808 per share after consolidation Current Mkt Price per share = $0.066, after consolidation $0.066 x 17 = $1.122 so if you buy  at $0.066 and after consolidation price falls below $1.122, you lose. Why the different between the $0.0224 (agreed price between the current and new owners) and the mkt price of $0.066? = Potential Potential: 1) current share owners gets all the capital reduction $ before the issue of new shares 2) 2 additional land parcel under discussion 3) Current 7 parcel of lands are values at > RM2.7billions 4) Potential of significant returns (profits) when the properties are developed. Therefore the mkt estimation of the current potential of the company  is (in a sense) => $0.066 - $0.0224 = $0.0436
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Siwomp Veteran	23-Sep-2013 14:15        Siwomp About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Back to Basic. FA is Sexy"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	34.55 billion new shares for $774millions, = $0.0224 per new shares Consolidation (or reverse split) 17:1 = $0.0224 x 17 = $0.3808 per share after consolidation Current Mkt Price per share = $0.066, after consolidation $0.066 x 17 = $1.122 so if you buy  at $0.066 and after consolidation price falls below $1.122, you lose. Why the different between the $0.0224 (agreed price between the current and new owners) and the mkt price of $0.066? = Potential Potential: 1) current share owners gets all the capital reduction $ before the issue of new shares 2) 2 additional land parcel under discussion 3) Current 7 parcel of lands are values at > RM2.7billions 4) Potential of significant returns (profits) when the properties are developed. Therefore the mkt estimation of the current potential of the company  is (in a sense) => $0.066 - $0.0224 = $0.0436
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Bigmama Master	23-Sep-2013 14:05        Bigmama About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	That is for dato.... I think market price will be 17x 6.7 cents. That is how dato make money. teeth53      ( Date: 23-Sep-2013 13:49) Posted: Thot Albedo is using new 23 bil share (+ +) n to be Consolidating 17:1@0.0224c. Then what can happen to current existing share now trading@0.066c..?. Anyone enlighten. ThkQ n chin kam sia in advance.
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dragon7 Member	23-Sep-2013 14:03        dragon7 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	What i understand frm the announcement. Propose new 35bil shares at 0.0224 to fund the acquisition. No cash involved n a rto. So now it up to the market to determine the share price or how much it worth considering its future prospects if deal succeeded. Shares consolidation is to make the share price value higher to comply wif min price 0.2 as required fr new share issuance. After consolidation, share price increased but number of shares reduced. Tis is a mega deal n as said is up to market to assess its value and prospects ie iskandar. I think retailers still confused wif tis deal. teeth53      ( Date: 23-Sep-2013 13:49) Posted: Thot Albedo is using new 23 bil share (+ +) n to be Consolidating 17:1@0.0224c. Then what can happen to current existing share now trading@0.066c..?. Anyone enlighten. ThkQ n chin kam sia in advance.
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teeth53 Supreme	23-Sep-2013 13:56        teeth53 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Is there two class of share, one for new n the other for old share or both rank the same?. Thk again anyone can englighten?.
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teeth53 Supreme	23-Sep-2013 13:49        teeth53 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thot Albedo is using new 23 bil share (+ +) n to be Consolidating 17:1@0.0224c. Then what can happen to current existing share now trading@0.066c..?. Anyone enlighten. ThkQ n chin kam sia in advance.
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starlene Elite	23-Sep-2013 13:21        starlene About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I thought agreed liao 17@0.0224=38.08cts ..i.e those who buy at current price 0.065 all died/ big loss liao is it giganticmoney      ( Date: 23-Sep-2013 11:55) Posted: star,   u only lose out if the consolidation of 17 shares into 1 is less than $1.12. Its still steady because, the company did not say they are going to consolidate into $0.38. Its not concrete yet as in which price they are going to consolidate into.
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giganticmoney Member	23-Sep-2013 11:55        giganticmoney About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	star,   u only lose out if the consolidation of 17 shares into 1 is less than $1.12. Its still steady because, the company did not say they are going to consolidate into $0.38. Its not concrete yet as in which price they are going to consolidate into.
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starlene Elite	23-Sep-2013 11:51        starlene About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	your advice on Albedo plse..Albedo ..every 17 shares will be consolidated into one new share at 38.08cts...is my way of computing below correct? normally consolidation investors lose out..typically.....Is this the way to calculate say we buy at $0.066@17lots based on current market price which works out to $1.122 verses $0.38 sori my calculation may be wrong your views plse..like that those who buy at current price sure lose but why the market price still steady at $0.066-0.067
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starlene Elite	23-Sep-2013 11:20        starlene About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Albedo looks like will catch up or even exceed Rowsley price by way of the 17x consolidation. ..normally consolidation investors lose out..typically...u sure will benefit..Is this the way to calculate say we buy at $0.066@17lots based on current market price which works out to $1.122 verses $0.38sori my calculation may be wrong your views plse
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Tradewisely Member	23-Sep-2013 10:04        Tradewisely About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Today's Actions Architects the Future"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Let Faith return to this stock! seanpent      ( Date: 23-Sep-2013 09:59) Posted: technically ... after a good strong flushing out on 20 Sep 2013 ... Albedo now has a much better chance of crossing 77 in the coming days ...
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seanpent Elite	23-Sep-2013 09:59        seanpent About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	technically ... after a good strong flushing out on 20 Sep 2013 ... Albedo now has a much better chance of crossing 77 in the coming days ...
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angsh79 Member	23-Sep-2013 09:49        angsh79 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This is insane with the RTO agreement.   With the sheer huge amount of shares, it will be better to scale down your open positions.
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