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geojam
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11-May-2007 15:33
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hi choohian Be happy will do. How to define rich?There is no yardstick as far as i know. Anyway,i take this opp.to wish all mothers===HAPPY MOTHERS day. |
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choohian
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11-May-2007 15:33
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Victorian, Congrats on your new born. Best wishes to the mother. | |||
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choohian
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11-May-2007 15:32
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Hi elfinchilde, Indeed, I do have a good life. Still, not rich, but more than enough to enjoy living. Hope you will be blessed with good health, wealth, and happiness. Good luck | |||
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adrianpang05
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11-May-2007 15:24
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Hi there Elf, To let you know I really appreciate what you've done with regards your gege's kantangs. May I suggest you just post updates to all his kantangs in this Fellowship thread. No need to go to individual threads with respect to counters. His 'flock' (of whom at least I know I'm one, and speaking strictly for myself!) will know where to find his 'voice'. Not meant to be offensive and definitely no religious undertones folks! |
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chinkiasu
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11-May-2007 12:17
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hi folk, a quick post to say I am back in the region.... but wow.. having a hard time recovering from jet lag.. & the humidity here is causing my vision to fog (my forehead is sweating so much that the sweat drips to my eye & fogging my specs..) so I cannot type properly... also tried to post my pics as promised re my Africa trip but still did not get my web site up so I have mailed them to Slimsk (as she has kindly offered), hope she can find time to put it up... many thanks for help, Ms Slimsk... and yes Asterisk, the great eye is here.. !!!! but folks, I am off again, this time regional to HCMC... I will sail the saigon river tonight...and think of you folks.. bye for now, got a plane to catch.. |
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j3r0m3
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11-May-2007 12:04
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Hi Elf, thanks for the wordy post reply. Erm, i think the replies have been combined together already. i get what you are saying about the 2nd priority because of marriage. In a way, i can say that you are right, cos after all, its my wedding. Not that the missus is going to hear it from me, but i am glad that she is the one i'm marrying. That's is why i say now is not a good time to go apply, because i will definitely show the 2nd priority mentality. However looking forward, after the wedding, i can go all hands on deck and show the interviewers i mean business. the canvassing part was just my reference to the sales part that i see so many of the fresh grads go into, not refering to the banks mentioned. I do realise i'm coming up against international applicants, however, i am more a citizen of the world than a Singaporean citizen. That, i believe will put me in good stead, regardless of the job i'm applying for, finance or otherwise. As for go-getters, it would depend on your definition. btw, Elf, where you working at? |
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elfinchilde
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11-May-2007 11:29
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hey kitten, sorry, missed your post. baby boy...hm.... go get booties! or a year's supply of diapers. haha. something cute lah. mittens and booties? those little nike shoes, have you seen them? damn cute. btw, could anyone give idea? for victorian's kantangs---'cos not sure if his 'following' read the fellowship thread. shd i update on each respective kantang thread, or can i just do it all here? in 1st place, they're FA ppl who follow his posts; so do i even need to call techs for his kantangs? blur.... byes, going for early lunch! |
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elfinchilde
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11-May-2007 10:34
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actually choohian, i think yours is a very rich life already. if i can live to there and be like you, that'd be more than enough already. :) eh..jerome, the banks you're naming are purely for go-getters. do consider well what you want? if you really want those banks you've named, then, wedding, full time job now, no time for leave etcetc might not come across as reasons for not applying. It might sound rather like it's your 2nd priority; or that you're only entertaining vague notions 'cos of the money, in which case, they're not likely to consider you. You have to show that you want it, and it'll be your 1st priority. it's a lot of sacrifice. that's why they're paid so well. What you give is what you get, know that saying? And eh. UBS, deustsche etc employees do not go on the ground canvassing like that. 1st foothold in is perhaps difficult without lobangs, since they hire globally. Your competition comes from HK, China, US, UK, Europe. deustche, you'll need to clear ~7 rounds of interviews in all. UBS easier, abt 4-5 only. inclusive of a battery of team tests, lunch time test, phone call, panel interviews, sequential interviews, case studies. note: all these hold true only for front end high positions. NOt sure abt the tech side. think it shd be easier. and yep. eastonbay is right. you need to hit director level by 35. Fast burn. In private wealth mgmt, you'll do things like bringing the clients' kids around when they fly to s'pore. Zouk, Butter factory, St James etc are de rigour. It's work in day, entertain at night. so yea. don't just look at the money. consider if you're a personality fit for what i've said first? good luck! market wise, it's a normal profit taking; so not much need to be alarmed. |
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choohian
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11-May-2007 09:09
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Fortunegal, Thanks. I am not rich rich. I can pass by with a lot less stress than most people. Everyday is a bonus. I enjoy life - I do not have many complaints. I accept whatever is given to me ( health, wealth or joy), always considering myself lucky especially when I see the blind, the handicapped, or someone ladden with heavy loads. The stock market only helps to give me some extra spending money ( some sort of salary) if I trade carefully. Good luck to you. | |||
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fortunegal
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11-May-2007 08:37
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choohian, hope I m not late! Happy Birthday to you too! Wishing you health n prosperity. i always envy those elders who can retire rich, do what they like, relax life at a slower pace with the other half. but i need to work hard/smart (oso should invest smart) for the next 30+ yrs before i reach this stage. and.. victorian, congrats on your newborn baby! and j3r0m3, congrats on ur wedding to you and your beautiful wife. save more money now, after u have baby next time, will need more money again. ;o) |
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mirage
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11-May-2007 00:34
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Oohs , Sorry Guys and Gals, maybe post this on the wrong thread.
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j3r0m3
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11-May-2007 00:31
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Asterisk : Ya, if i went Deloitte is IT consultant, but i think it will be bao1 shan1 bao1 hai3.... KPMG? hmm, i never considered them lei. Dunno why. lol... sounding like i have a lot of choice. |
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j3r0m3
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11-May-2007 00:28
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oops, my bad EastonBay. Heee... So i understand that you were like me once, in engineering, before you made th switch. So care to divulge how you did it? by doing CFA like what you post? |
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EastonBay
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11-May-2007 00:20
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Do CFA if you really want to switch. It's more valuable than CPA. It's high failure rate also carries a lot of weight for those who passed all 3 levels with Finance co., banks alike. Although many who did would later say that knowledge they gained from the course is not totally relevant, it is the really the CFA title that put you above the others. | |||
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EastonBay
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11-May-2007 00:14
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j3rom3, hey oh! "that's why i tried for Microsoft, Richmond ". Alamak, no wonder they didn't consider you... It's Redmond, not Richmond lah. They were probably worrying that you will never get there since you were going to Richmond!! (sorry, can't help but to take a dig here) Asterisk, I talked to one of the senior partner in one of the Big4 in Feb. He did say the Big4 were fighting to hire the BETTER ones and hence had to raise the entry salary. Besides, the market is so tight now due to booming economy and foreign banks all rushing in and setting up offices/expanding their ops. As banks are perceived to be more prestigous than accountancy firm. Most of the candidates will pick the foreign banks first, if offered a job. Sometimes Big4 end up with 2nd Best (not 2nd Chance). i.e., the Big4 have not choice but to offer to candidates they would otherwise not offer. That's how the whole cohort got recruited. You lucky to graduate next year. However, what elf said was very true about culture fit. If there is a total misfit, they will rather let go. Use the corporate slogan and show that you have a deep understanding of that company (be it a lie). One trick, during recruitment talk, leaves an impression to important people, like senior partners, HR head etc from that firm. That good impression works wonderfully and magically. Cos when you are there for interview, they sort of know you already! |
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mirage
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11-May-2007 00:01
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YongJiu, tomorrow is too late to get out. DOW is DOWN by 84.68 at 13,278.19, A SEA OF RED. MAY DAY, MAY DAY. SELL in MAY come back in NOV. Next month June is school holiday for Singapore. Market will be QUIET. http://sg.finance.yahoo.com/usindices http://sg.finance.yahoo.com/intlindices |
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j3r0m3
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10-May-2007 23:52
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Asterisk, you are still in NTU, so you still can plan ahead with all the time. I know the amount of spare time one can have in uni... hahaha... Personally, observing your posts, i think that there is a sensible brain between your ears, and so my advice to you is just to let that sensibility show thru and you will likely be in one of the big4 |
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j3r0m3
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10-May-2007 23:48
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elf, the cos you mentione were the likes of UBS, Deutsche, etc... the truth is that i haven try them out. And i cannot do so now, cos in the midst of preparations for wedding, so time is tight and not to mention, no new hire will be able to get so much leave. haha!!! But i am definitely considering the switch and am determined to make it there, even if i have to start from operations, at least i think that is the only entry point for non-finance grads. Else sales. but i kinda dislike sales and their hard sell (cue typical scene at MRT where the financial advisers buzz around) i was accepted by Deloitte 2 yrs ago, but they got back to me so late ( after 3 months ) and by then i am already working for "Ho Ching" (sorta la), and i did not want to disaapoint my boss after he gave a chance in the comp despite my less than sparkling grades. |
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YongJiu
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10-May-2007 23:43
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arr so much anticipation of sell in may and go away? tomorrow is the last trade day for the 2nd week of May? what next? |
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YongJiu
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10-May-2007 23:37
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My dear elfin, I recokon you are the best SJ social worker!!! Can?t believe how helpful you are, soon you will run Auntie Angony lettle box here? ^^ Oh yeah, btw I need some suggestion from you? my korean colleague invite me to his baby boy 1yrs old birthday party this weekend, wonder what kind of gift I should bring? Hehe runing out of idea... hehe how I wish I can bake some famos cookies like fortunegal..... ....greeting to my dear bunbun too |
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