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elfinchilde
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10-May-2007 23:32
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hm. jerome. re microsoft. if it's an American co you're trying for, rem one thing. they're very, very more forward than asians. singaporeans are regarded as too humble. Like how, ya know american idol? the kids go in saying, "I am the next american idol." It's not even "I want to be the next idol." That's the level of self belief you have to project. your line is good already: "I firmly believe that I will never know if I don't try." use that in your resume. perhaps a short para somewhere on your guiding philosophies in life. one page ah. dun worry lah. big MNCs take in from all backgrounds. accountancy degree not nece. |
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elfinchilde
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10-May-2007 23:27
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eh no; didn't attend lessons. i gave lessons actually. on resume writing and interview skills. do it too for college uni entrance essays. teach 'em little ones how to look their best and brightest when faced with the world of scary adults. interviews are the fun part. i know all the psycho tests and mtds etc that MNCs to govt corps here use; so ahhahaaa! fun to play. :P it's showmanship, essentially. from dressing, to posture, to vocal tone, etc. sometimes when i'm bored or feeling especially friendly, i'll also give my friends tips on how to write their resumes, esp if they've been jobless for long. i prefer not to write it for them tho; since must always have your own voice in your resume. plus if in interview, they ask you, and you don't even know what's in your resume, that's a dead giveaway. nono asterisk. you don't cold call. that's too obvious, too eager beaver. if you don't have connections, do it a simpler way. Go to their website, see their company hierarchy. See their financial reports, which guy is bringing in the most money. then go read their blurb abt their company culture (normally it's dynamic, go getting, open minded etc). then when you write, show that you have these stuff too. and that you want to work with that guy 'cos this is his track record. it's all the little tricks and skills. note: you can learn the lessons, but gotta apply them. 2 ppl can go for same lesson, but they'll write very differently. like, even if you were just a waiter, you'll put under skills learnt: -excels in handling difficult requests, easy-going and able to get along with people of different culture. geddit? heehee. jerome, when you say the cos i mentioned, you mean the big4, or the MNC banks? MNC banks: you don't get in 1st step--ie resume fault, or 2nd--ie, resume cleared, but interview no go? eh. IT background even better. stress on two terms i'll give you here: transferable skills, lateral knowledge. think abt it. keke. and yes, altho we know it's true, never, never tell them you're in it for the money. muah ha. |
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j3r0m3
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10-May-2007 23:18
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no, Jerome is not an undergrad. Like Asterisk, i am from NTU, but i have grad for about 2 yrs now. Currently working for one of the companies that used to be Darling of STI, but have now become a bit player. my degree is IT based though, so i do understand the limitations. But the good thing about me is that i'm blessed with this special ability. And that is that i firmly believe that i will never know if i never try, that's why i tried for Microsoft, Richmond even though i know that they could never possibly hire me. Hee! But i do think that i can bring about traits which are necesarry in the finance sector, thats why i wanna go for the switch. |
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elfinchilde
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10-May-2007 23:08
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ahahha! nono jerome, wait til the no: is 9898 then register the baby!! heeehee. like, i wanna know who's the lucky bug who got 8888 man..... anyhow, digression. let's continue. for CV: Your CV needs the following sections: Personal Details Relevant Working Experience Other experiences Education History (incl your scholarships and awards if any; CCAs as well) Special Competencies (eg, piano, violin, vocals grade 8, photoshop skills, languages, etcetc). order the sections as per what stands out best. hehe. So if you're a student, education history comes before the working/other experiences. if you've worked before, then working/other experiences come before education. esp if your education history has been less than stellar. hehe. note, also include in what you've learnt and achieved in those sections. Eg, Coordinator for xxx IT development, may 1999-june 2003. -led a team of people to develop cutting-edge precision technology for xxx company. -generated revenue of 100k in 2 months, achieving the highest sales record for the company in that year. -organised a successful major convention for 800 people in june 2002. everything point form. No long story. Max 2 pgs. can? ok nites, elf wants to sleep now. talk abt a digression man. potato reporting to job hunting. haha. |
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elfinchilde
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10-May-2007 22:59
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eh, is jerome an undergrad too? 1) your resume shd not be more than 2 pages long. 2) When you apply, you shd have 2 things: a cover letter, and a curriculum vitae (CV). 3) In the cover letter (one pg, including address, etcetc), you shd address the following pts: a) why you are interested in the job b) why you are a fit for the job c) why you are a fit for the company. rem that ppl are hired for ability, but they're fired for 'fit'. ->ie, id what the company culture is (dynamic/spontaneous/rule abiding/strong fraternity etcetc) and show that you fit in with them. note: show, not tell. Note also: common mistake most ppl make: they write what the job can give them, and not the other way ard. BUt think abt it, why on earth wld i want to hire someone who tells me, "oh, i want to join your company because i can learn a lot from you." Like, duh. I'm hiring you to work for me. What you shd be saying instead is something like "I wish to join your company because you've shown xxx expansion into china, and the chinese market is something i am personally interested in. Being fluent in both mandarin and english, i believe i can be an asset to the team there." Look to give, not take. And note: if it's MNCs you're applying for, personality has to come through. Cut out the 'I's in your resume. Shdn't be 'I am this this this, I studied in that that that.' If your potential boss is reading 300 resumes, how do you stand out? THat's the qn you answer. in short: cover letter: make it short, sharp, sweet. Impress with your personality and show that you know something of the company, while tying in your own skills. If you can, give the specific department you want to join, and not "I want to join AA." like, which dept in AA, under whom? THe more specific you can get, the better your chances. |
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j3r0m3
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10-May-2007 22:59
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Thanks Elf. Your postings on the kantangs help me learn more about TA and also make me see exactly what are the details to take note of. Congrats to Victorian on the new born. Must be a future ShareJunction forummer, quick register a username for the baby... |
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elfinchilde
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10-May-2007 22:46
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btw, for those of you depending on victorian, pls know that his new baby has just been born a couple of days ago, so he's kinda tied up with family right now. in fact, i'm surprised that that bro of mine is still posting in such a situation. haha. so his little sis will be good and update his counters for him here. I'm just going to do it one shot here ah; don't wanna accumulate so many posts. plus, can't be bothered to go find all his dang potatoes. haha. note i can't rem what exactly he's holding, so i'll post only the most popular kantangs. hh: same story. via MACD, downtrend appears to be petering out. likely range tmrw: 1.00-1.05. Notice that BBs are actually not moving. small fries are auto being shaken out by the days of consistent lowness. For the vested, hold your nerves. edmi: XD is tmrw. So will naturally expect a slight drop. Note tho that it has factored in full year's earnings already. Bigger pic, techs show counter at an impasse for now; neither up nor down. rem its pattern in jan, again at the 40c mark. Consistent tech pattern: does a hummingbird hover hover hover....then sudden spike up in a few days. ek: just XDed. This short period of time likely to trend in the same range for accumulation. Very, very tight float. SHowing resistance of uptrend. tmrw's range likely 22-23.5c. pohtc: likely sideways for now. MACD shows in downtrend. 20.5-21.5c is my call range for tmrw. nippecraft: stock is being sold but px is remaining about constant. indication of passive accumulation (ie, ppl queue at one price instead of chasing). alternatively, equal push-pull factors at play. indicating experienced, patient players in this counter, but very few or no BBBs yet. tricky techs 'cos of inconsistent vol. Look for RSI sudden jump above 8 pts as your guide to sudden momentum. Alt, rely on busd data. likely range for tmw: 11.5-12.5. pls note that all tech targets given are just a guideline. and i'm calling for 5 counters at one shot. so don't kill me if any is off by a half cent or whatever. niama dunno what kantangs my gege digs up, they all have tricky techs. THose interested in doing more research, pls find the relevant threads, yea. victorian's posted a huge amt of info on them. |
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j3r0m3
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10-May-2007 22:38
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Elf, can teach me how to write resume also? I have been aiming for the comps you mentioned but no success. |
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elfinchilde
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10-May-2007 22:11
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eh? if the entire cohort gets in, then you won't need my help wat. no pt doing unnecessary work. the irony is, i'm trying to help a kid get OUT of one of the big four (he's in alr even before his final year), and here is this one, wanting in. sigh. why??? grass always greener on other side eh. eheh. kid. your goals don't seem to be in accountancy. Why not just whack straight. Aim for the big banks. like UBS, like Deustsche Bank, like Rabobank. Forget the local banks, forget the accountancy firms. Whack straight. "Make no little plans. They have no magic to stir men's blood." --Daniel Barenboim. This is where the four rounds of interviews come in. muah ha. trial by fire, kid. Test yourself and see if you're the gold standard. If you're game, i'll teach ya how to write your resume such that they'll pick you up. job-hunting, singaporeans lose to foreigners 'cos they can't write their resumes well enough. |
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elfinchilde
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10-May-2007 21:50
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sporeguy! long time no see your posts! hullo!!! nah. it's more private stuff we yak via email la. only the family had my email. (read: one godpa, two bros, one bunnie, one kitten...wld be one little bro too but i'm disowning him for filial disobedience muah ahhahahaaa.). and haha. yea, i guess stimes i do give more detailed stuff abt market movement; but am wary of posting it online since i'm quite afraid that ppl will just rush and buy... 'cos like, trends change all the time, esp if you're talking micro, day to day patterns. so techs necessarily change. but i'm not online all the time to give the buy/sell cue, so i don't want to 'lead anyone on' or something like that. BB stories. ooh. just name me your counter. elf likes to play. hehe. watching eastonbay's sweet potato now just for fun. and baseerahmed is right. it does read like a fiction detective noir novel. but haha, mebbe that's 'cos me and vic are more hyper ppl lah; 'cos we post so detailed, it looks like drama. Esp if you're new to the game. Altho, it's very easy to get caught in the stories, but newbies shdn't read and freak out and get a persecution complex. singaporegal: so your email addy is activated now??? heehee. ok, i'll try again and you'll know. heehee. |
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elfinchilde
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10-May-2007 21:41
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ah ha. i knew it. you only wanted the job contact right? tsk tsk. must know that when a person recommends another, then whatever the recommended person does reflects on the one who recommended too. Won't risk my rep for anyone just like that. ya gotta clear me first. reps are made in years but can be lost in a day. o/w, to get into EY, AA, PWC (what's the last one ah? KPMG?), you shd havta clear at least 4 rounds of interviews if you didn't get internship. You do the internship in yr 2nd year, by end of 1st sem final year you shd have your job offer alr. hm. shd let you fight it out. it'd build character. muahahhahahaa! yea, admin did drop a mail. they work fast. eh, vic is vic, elf is elf. Just 'cos he's my gege (with all due respect, bro), doesn't mean i'll do everything he says, or believe everything he says/does. Rem, this is a stock market forum. Independence above all. And hahahahaha! sorry, no, i don't believe in 2ndchance. ooh, double meaning. haha. :P |
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choohian
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10-May-2007 20:31
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Hi bunbun, thanks for emoticon and wishes. Just came on the post, so late in acknowledging your mail. I try to live a clean life, that is, no smoking and no drinking. But life - no one can predict. Here today, gone tomorrow. I keep myself happy, contented with my lot, and tell myself that I am better off than many people of my age. |
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Sporeguy
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10-May-2007 20:17
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Hi elf, looks like some of you get discussion thro email thro SJ Admin. Don't leave out leh. Esp I would like to see elf's streetwise story on BBBs(Big BBs) and sBBs (small BBs) and sharing of target prices etc. May be those who are good at IT can start a private Chat online. I am not IT savy enough to decide which is the best course or platforms. |
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singaporegal
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10-May-2007 19:54
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Hi elf, Yah... I use a seperate email address for the SJ account. I just reactivated that email address. How did you know my emails bounced? |
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geojam
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10-May-2007 18:18
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itan888----China has alot of ppl moving into middle class.What is their population?1.2 billion?Say 15% is in middle to high income---wow that will be alot of ppl. Elf---i tot u are going to join bunbun for a drink. |
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elfinchilde
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10-May-2007 18:01
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l_tan, re smrt and comfortDG: if you look at the mar cap and px of the two counters, then CDG dwarfs smrt. which means in an M&A deal, it's likely more an acquisition: CDG will have to buy SMRT. Hence, SMRT price will go up, CDG will go down/trend sideways. THere'll be an equivalent pt between the two prices that can be reached/calculated, but generally the story holds true for all acquisitions: the bought co goes up, the buying co share px goes down, due to capex. yah godpa, dow less relevant. we've more or less delinked alr. re STI/bull run: minor corrections along the way, def. but the big one isn't likely for these few mths, short of any sudden events. Analysts have just called today for an overweight position on Singapore, with the STI targetted to hit 4,100 by year end. It's on CNA; the scrolling ticker. saw it at lunch but can't see which analysts called it.. ok, wanna go home. shacked out with work alr. was running abt whole day. btw asterisk, got yr mail fr SJ admin, gimme some time first hor. currently flooded. |
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elfinchilde
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10-May-2007 18:00
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think bunnie referring to StA. hh still same story la. all retailers only; small fries getting nervy. Elf will wait to strike if px goes lower. muah ha. hm. asterisk was right tho, if SJ becomes too big, i'm not gonna post price targets out liao. susceptible to inference from the small BBs (ie, big time private investors). haha. kitten is busy with work i think. haha, bunnie, i'm sure if we bring him out for alcohol (hmm...something in common already! haha) he'll start getting yakky. still haven't found him his companion leh. poor kitten. sigh... where's singaporegal??? meh. and yah. giantlow. double meh. and yah, where's billywows? meh meh mehhhhhh.......and now i sound like a motherless lamb. haha. |
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l_tan888
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10-May-2007 17:54
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Hi Geojam, The DOW still has its significance and relevance. However, within the next 5 years, the rising Eastern DOW (ie. the Chinese markets) is going to challenge uncle sam vigorously and gain its importance. That's why even uncle sam had to show some fear and followed in sympathy on 27 February 2007. Cannot be helped lah, with 1.3 billion people and representing 20% of the world's population, who else can compare with them? |
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geojam
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10-May-2007 17:30
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bunbun U refering to HH? TP of 1.30? |
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bunbun
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10-May-2007 17:26
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elfie, retail interest coz inst. houses initiated buy call today. TP 1.3++ i think. grandma choohian, happy birthday! many happy returns on your birthday and may you be as healthy as you've been always (i hope so...) heh, where is uncle forever? haven't seen his post for a while. hope he's not like giantlow. vanished into thin air. |
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