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Tomique
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16-Aug-2013 17:14
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GIC will subscribed all lah... Hahaha!!
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ynnek1267
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16-Aug-2013 17:12
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Ya ah gong back. Like chartered semi con loh. Issue right loh, price drop till penny and sell to global foundry. NOL price drop till penny and sell to Maersk loh
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stevenk
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16-Aug-2013 17:01
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Do you know what is the impact if there is  a rights issue?
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sgng123
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16-Aug-2013 14:34
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Don need to worry so much about ship debt level, cos they got Ah gong ( SG government backing ) on their side. While other shipping lines cannot afford billions to upgrade their fleet to fuel efficient one, NOL can due to support from temasek. Container shipping is too vital for Singapore economy as we are export oriented, die die would support ship no matter what happen. At the most temasek would just report billions are invested( loss lol) in ship to keep Singapore competitive in the world. Ship always got ATM machines for free flow of cash, so no worry. By the way this year ship had reset slot cost for container and further reduction in operating cost is expected in 2H due to 135000 TEU charter expiring now till 2014. | ||||
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stevenk
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16-Aug-2013 14:04
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How Treasury Yields Affect the Economy:As Treasury yields increase, so do the interest rates on consumer and business loans with similar lengths. Investors like the safety and fixed returns of bonds. Treasuries are the safest, since they are guaranteed by the U.S. government. Other bonds are riskier, so must return higher yields to attract investors. As Treasury yields rise, so do interest rates on other bonds and loans to remain competitive. So, what will happen to a company who is in high debt. The next thing it may do is to call for rights issue to gather more capital to finance the debt..       |
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stevenk
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16-Aug-2013 12:57
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So, safe bet is stick to those company that are not in huge debt. |
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stevenk
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16-Aug-2013 12:41
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Hello, Are you aware of the QE tapering impact to those company like Olam and NOL who are over-leveraged and in huge debt? Did you notice that the US 10 year treasury yield is now 2.95% and the trend is going up. And do you understand what is the impact if this yield keep going up?  |
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sgng123
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16-Aug-2013 11:03
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don worry too much about ship as it do not benefit from QE3 cash injection. The stocks should be watching out is those bond like stock offering good yield returns example like starhub, steng , sing post etc. Together with property/bank/REITs are all in danger of big corrections as their valuation is being pushed up to unsustainable level soon to crash. Growth stocks might be safer bet to place money as world economy continue to improve. Fed reserve most likely would slowly cut the QE money injection according to improvement in economy condition, no one want to be held as scapegoat for causing another financial crisis even republican congress also scared to repeat 2011 debt ceiling crisis. | ||||
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8bliz8
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16-Aug-2013 06:38
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Nice rose syrup maybe us trying to trim debt thru rising their currency | ||||
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Rosesyrup
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16-Aug-2013 00:41
Yells: "Get your own opinion, don't follow blindly." |
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Stay calm, don't panic. Thanks to Fed's inconsistent messages on tapering QE3, you can expect this to happen every now and then. Stock index can fluctuate wildly,  going down 3% a day and recovering 3% the next day. However, economic progress is much more stable and predictable.  Timing your investment based on economic data might be a better choice as stock index merely reflects  investors phycology which  still strongly influenced by actual economic data in the long term. Today sell off in Dow is mainly due to lower sales projections by major businesses. The following is (only) my personal opinion on this matter (NOT FACTS):
In a nutshell, I suggest ignoring the actual date of QE3** tapering and US big corporations' forecast, instead focus on the measures taken by Asian economies and the way FED is  announcing**** the end of QE3. **So long as the date fall within Jan 2014 to June 2014 it should be fine. Anything shorter would kill weak sign of recovery, while  anything longer would increase US deficit and the risk of another crisis. Despite some Fed members claiming QE3 would be ended in late 2013, considering the weak economic pulse now, I remain highly skeptical about its possibility. ****The way that the announcement is made, is more important than the actual date itself. If FED were to stop QE3 as soon as the announcement ends, leaving little time for the market to react, trampling  is bounded to happen as the panic investors rush to get out of the depreciating Asian currencies- 1997 Asian currencies crisis is almost certain to  repeat itself. The best case would be Fed giving a few months worth of warning, allowing investors to retreat in an organized manner. |
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8bliz8
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15-Aug-2013 22:50
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dji now minus 200 off | ||||
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sgng123
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15-Aug-2013 22:45
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Top 3 carriers Maersk, MSC and CMA had joined in the Sep GRI US400-500, most likely another rate success. This GRI thing is a kelong as long these three leaders united in their pricing, the GRI is a guarantee success. No undercutting by these 3 also stabilised the freight rate, imagine what would happen next year when they officially formed P3 controlling 50% Europe 30% transpacific, rate going to jump due to no competition, Kelong coordination to maximise profit. | ||||
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sgng123
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15-Aug-2013 22:31
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IT might be very fast upward swing for ship as BB always priced in future growth and once they are dead sure world economy going to recover in 2014, they buy up everything and ship might go higher due to lesser floating shares in market, covering of big shorting position by hedge funds and lastly as usual when ship go up punter chase it herd mentality ( we punters  chase it, don matter how high it go just need volume and upward trading pattern lol). But again need to see BB ploughing in before we do anything, currently tapering fear ongoing dow jones down by 200 pt due to better jobless claim data out, it is crazy good economy news = bad news for US stocks lol. | ||||
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Rosesyrup
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15-Aug-2013 20:34
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Lol, not so fast yet. Try to think of the world in this way: 1) US and Europe are the world's market, they represent most of the world demand. 2) China is the world factory, they supply US and Europe with manufactured goods. 3) South East Asia (SEA)  is  the factory's backyard, providing  raw materials which are need by China to complete the goods. Thus, US and Europe might have shown sign of recovery. But it still takes some  time for their demands to first  reach China and for China to start demanding raw materials from SEA. You can use China's growth data  as a gauge to measure NOL recovery. As soon as the world factory  starts running again, NOL's ships would be kept busy transporting in and out of the factory. Though I do not have an accurate way of knowing when will this moment comes, I still attempt to forecast with trend analysis. According to my forecast, the quickest is by the end of this December, assuming Asian  economies would not be severely affected by outflow of funds.
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PauloGan
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15-Aug-2013 08:49
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Dun ruan ruan kong. Always wanna entice others to buy. | ||||
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ruanlai
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15-Aug-2013 07:54
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France exits recession, German growth beats..... SO NOL will up above $1.20 from today |
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8bliz8
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14-Aug-2013 23:24
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thanks Hawkeye for correcting me =p | ||||
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Hawkeye
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14-Aug-2013 22:53
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Cosco Shipping are exploring the Northern Artic route which summer melted more due to global warming but this route will still be frozen in late automn and early spring meaning only open about 4 months a year even if passable. This route will affect Singapore Port and Singapore economy. Cosco Singapore and Yanzijiang is shipbuilder, does not matter what route they take. Shipbuilding business is as usual. NOL is crucial to support Singapore import and export. Even if ship reduce, NOL will support Singapore because NOL belong and keep Singapore alive. Temasek support NOL and hold 66% share. NOL profitablility depend on world economic activity and NOL will go uptrend now that US and Europe and growing. China is still growing although slower.
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8bliz8
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14-Aug-2013 18:39
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YZJ, NOL, Cosco, how we know their shipping routes lies to which region most??? | ||||
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sgng123
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14-Aug-2013 17:33
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Europe 2Q GDP back to growth +0.3% ending 18 months of recession. ship also rebound when news pop out in the afternoon. | ||||
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