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j3r0m3
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04-May-2007 14:00
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thanks Elf, another simple question, BBs are... ??? |
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elfinchilde
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04-May-2007 13:45
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and yeps jerome, blues = blue chips. undervalued, undiscovered grubby pennies that no one even thinks of = sweet potatoes. prepared a la victorian. haha. and yea, belated, but hmm....we shd take up baseerahmed's suggestion of ikan billis and other names. heehee. so what? ikan billy (singular tense!)/sweet potato = penny? suggestions for mids and blues? heehee. |
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elfinchilde
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04-May-2007 13:39
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yeps godpa, been busy at wk. next week will be fully out of office. no time even for own wk pjts, much less own free time. 
aside, just something on the general market, others, pls feel free to add in/correct my perception? 'cos this is just my guess, and i'm unsure. my sense is that this bull run is not BB-driven. As in (for the techies), if you read the bu/sd charts across the blues, mids and pennies, there's no pattern of buying that correlates with the proper BBs, especially foreign funds. What i'm seeing instead is a domestic rush: of private (and shady?) hedge funds, and private investors. plus lots of small time contraists and shortists and day traders. which wld explain why the STI is up, vol is extremely high (2 bil by lunch time already!), yet gainers/losers are almost even, and top actives are mainly pennies. since in a real bull run, gainers should outnumber losers by a lot: recall early jan this year. ie, it's churning that's going on in the market now; and ppl are just rushing for the next vague rumor of takeover etc. which also ties in with how some cos can report better earnings, yet their share price drops (STE), while others are not affected at all. this kind of market, do be cautious. wld appreciate if anyone has a different opinion? |
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geojam
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04-May-2007 01:03
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Elf Thanks.Been busy at work? There is no thread on Hwa hong in SJ.Just was doing my own research on hwa hong but have no annual report etc....Unlike in australia,normally,u can have all the PE ratios,EPS etc....all in summary form at the company's website and forcasts DPS and EPS etc...all easily available without me having to do all the computations. Cheers and hear from u--via email or SJ. |
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elfinchilde
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03-May-2007 22:20
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godpa, re hwa hong: by MACD and candlesticks, appears to be peaking out actually. price showing serious divergence with a/d and c/o, starting from 18th april, with sell cfmed on 25th april (close 89c) by dip 4 days almost consecutive (20-25th apr) for the above indicators. note RSI and williams not entirely sensitive to stock. by fibo, this upside shd be to abt 1.04. likely to hit a lot of resistance and some periods of stagnancy along the way tho, given it's at an all-time high. In uncharted waters. closest resistance to beat is 91.5c. advise wait and see if uptrend continues or trend changes. Don't know the FA story tho; if you do, that might help determine the next direction. good luck! |
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geojam
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03-May-2007 21:18
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sporegal Can u please help to read chart of Hwa Hong? |
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singaporegal
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03-May-2007 20:06
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Hi Eastonbay, Welcome to the sick club. I'm getting much better now. Thank goodness... because the weekend is coming and I don't want to waste it like I wasted Labour Day. Unfortunately, I think vitamin C doesn't help much when you are already sick. Its only good for prevention of sickness. |
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j3r0m3
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03-May-2007 14:45
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sell in may is rule of thumb advice for blues i take it that Elf meant Bluechips ya? |
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colorado
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03-May-2007 12:22
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Hi Elfinchilde, yes, listened to you and liquidated my positions to go away. Not sure about the trend thing though 'cos moving to uncharted waters now.. What is your take with regards Unit Trust? Does this saying apply to UT as well? I've got holdings there so thinking of parking them in safe havens when I go for my hols. |
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elfinchilde
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03-May-2007 11:45
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lol, eastonbay, join the club! elf sick but has still been at work; didn't take MC. so nicely hacking away in my own room and passing to the crowd at lunch. kidding. haha. yea, i shd take vit C man... esp considering i keep odd hrs and dietary habits. haha. zhirong, welcome to the fellowship. :) apologies, i don't do IPOs, not unless i get to sneak in under private/institutional placement. o/w, the one or two lots you get are really not worth the trouble queuing at ATMs...didn't know internet banking can do it tho. tip: rem that most IPOs are quick flips tho. sell within the first or latest 3rd day of debut. even if it's an FA consideration (ie, long term stock), can always afford to buy back later, since almost sure to drop at some point. hehe. yea colorado, taht's why i say, follow the trend. (at the risk of sounding like a broken record). sell in may is rule of thumb advice for blues, really. since that's when divvies are paid out, and foreign mgmers go on hols, so they tend to lock in profits and hold positions before may. Depends entirely on your entry price, funds in reserve and counter you're holding: rule of thumb is a general thing, not specific. j3rom3. yea. just trying to help out lah. no heroes or whatever here. but we've all been through our own mistakes and learning experiences, so if we can share and learn from each other and shorten the experience, why not. it's enough that BBs keep scamming us hay bees already; no need for infighting amongst the hay bees. No wonder always kena eaten up. haha. k gotta go rushed at work these few days tata. and aie, i totally missed chinkiasu's posts (this thread moves very fast! pai seh. hello to you too! back from NY yet?) |
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EastonBay
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03-May-2007 11:04
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zhirong, to me the easiest is to apply thru your internet banking. Don't even need to lift your body out of the house to queue at ATM. Most IPOs are avail thru your bank's internet banking (esp so with posb/dbs). elf and singaporegal: unfortunately I joined you in sickness  . Flu symptoms, sore throat etc. sian. Elf, do you take vitamin C? My doc advised me to take clinical strength of 1000mg per day for the few days during and after recovery. Past experience showed that it helped to prevent the sickness from recurring soon. I take it for one week. 
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zhirong_thann
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03-May-2007 10:45
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I was thinking of trying my luck since its my first time buying IPO. Hope I have what u call beginner's luck. The last IPO I was looking at was Fabrictech which surged more than 100% since its debut. I wanted to try my luck to apply then but realise that I was 1 day late. Sad to say |
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scotty
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03-May-2007 10:38
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I apply IPO so many times but seldom get it... really depends on luck .... |
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baseerahmed
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02-May-2007 23:38
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zhirong_thann : IPO , perhaps this might help http://www.dbs.com/sg/personal/ibanking/additionalinfo/faq/investmentsvc/esaservicecharge/ |
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baseerahmed
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02-May-2007 23:26
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assuming u have opened an account with a broking house and have a central depository no. , the simplest way is through ur ATM under ESA (electronic share application) |
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zhirong_thann
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02-May-2007 22:59
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Hi there. Can anyone advice me on the procedure to apply for IPO? What are the ways available and most convenient? Charges incurred as well as other impt info? Whats the trend like in May? Heard that it will be stagnant after Q1 results release? Other than that, think most of the people going for holiday and enjoy. 
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colorado
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02-May-2007 22:46
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I am amazed that Elfinchilde and Singaporegal still bother to post despite their illness - this goes to show that SJ is clearly in their blood!  I've learnt a whole lot here and I can't agree more that we need to help each other "decipher" the BBs.  . I got whacked real hard and am still recovering from the bloodbath 'cos I went against the trend so please don't be hero hor? 
What are your thoughts about selling in May and going away? I am going away soon for a short trip to Auzzieland so have to liquidate my position inorder to enjoy myself. Not too sure about the internet connection in some of the ulu places I'm going. |
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elfinchilde
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02-May-2007 22:24
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yea singaporegal, elfie's sick too. getting better, but usually before full recovery, will fall sick yet again. *give up* feel yet another sore throat coming on. erk. doesn't help that my colleagues are like you!!! happily sniffing and coughing away in front of me. *sigh* k, nites. |
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shplayer
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02-May-2007 22:05
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singaporegal, When in Redang in 1999 and 2000 I stayed at resorts.......Coral Redang (owned by the Sultan of Trengganu - alot of caucasians) and one next to it - Redang Holiday Villa - (run by a Chinese couple - nice and cosy) At that time, there was not village on the island......but that was a long time ago. Subsequently, I stay in resorts on the mainland (Merang) and chartered from www.deutzianautical.com for day trips. Don't worry too much about.....don't build up any expectations. Enjoy the beauty of the sun, sea and sand and have a fabulous time. Don't think internet...lest you get 'cyber cold turkey'...he he he he 
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singaporegal
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02-May-2007 20:17
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Hi elfie, So you're sick too? I think there's a nasty bug going round... terrible... most of my colleagues caught the bug from me and are now sick! Haha.. 
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